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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Treo 680 For Free (After MIR, Of Course)!</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-36112</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Treo 680 For Free (After MIR, Of Course)!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just prior to the official launch of the Treo 680 with Cingular, there was a juicy, moist rumor that Cingy would be giving them away with a two-year data commitment. That did not pan out, but you can actually get that deal today, if you&#8217;re OK with mail-in rebates. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just prior to the official launch of the Treo 680 with Cingular, there was a juicy, moist rumor that Cingy would be giving them away with a two-year data commitment. That did not pan out, but you can actually get that deal today, if you&#8217;re OK with mail-in rebates. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Newset gadgets &#187; Treo 680 Possibly Launching on Cingular For Free</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-24847</link>
		<dc:creator>Newset gadgets &#187; Treo 680 Possibly Launching on Cingular For Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Mobile Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cingular’s Treo 680 on November 5 at $175: Bank On It</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-11854</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mobile Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cingular’s Treo 680 on November 5 at $175: Bank On It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We just got a little email action in our inbox from our PDA/Smartphone mole who has pricing he/she claims is the legit, honest-to-gawd deal for the Palm Treo 680 for Cingular. You can get yours for less than $200 in less than 2 weeks. Sweet, yah?Previously, this same mole had indicated that Cingy and Palm weren’t finding any agreements in the pricing of the anticipated smartphone. Palm wanted to produce a bare-bones, consumer Treo, something that would give them (and the Palm OS) the market share it’s missing. Thusly, it wanted to forgo certain software packages to save money, as certain professional features (Documents to Go, BlackBerry Connect, etc.) wouldn’t be much use to the newly forged “casual smartphone user”. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We just got a little email action in our inbox from our PDA/Smartphone mole who has pricing he/she claims is the legit, honest-to-gawd deal for the Palm Treo 680 for Cingular. You can get yours for less than $200 in less than 2 weeks. Sweet, yah?Previously, this same mole had indicated that Cingy and Palm weren’t finding any agreements in the pricing of the anticipated smartphone. Palm wanted to produce a bare-bones, consumer Treo, something that would give them (and the Palm OS) the market share it’s missing. Thusly, it wanted to forgo certain software packages to save money, as certain professional features (Documents to Go, BlackBerry Connect, etc.) wouldn’t be much use to the newly forged “casual smartphone user”. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cingular&#8217;s Treo 680 on November 5 at $175: Bank On It</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-11661</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cingular&#8217;s Treo 680 on November 5 at $175: Bank On It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Previously, this same mole had indicated that Cingy and Palm weren&#8217;t finding any agreements in the pricing of the anticipated smartphone. Palm wanted to produce a bare-bones, consumer Treo, something that would give them (and the Palm OS) the market share it&#8217;s missing. Thusly, it wanted to forgo certain software packages to save money, as certain professional features (Documents to Go, BlackBerry Connect, etc.) wouldn&#8217;t be much use to the newly forged &#8220;casual smartphone user&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Previously, this same mole had indicated that Cingy and Palm weren&#8217;t finding any agreements in the pricing of the anticipated smartphone. Palm wanted to produce a bare-bones, consumer Treo, something that would give them (and the Palm OS) the market share it&#8217;s missing. Thusly, it wanted to forgo certain software packages to save money, as certain professional features (Documents to Go, BlackBerry Connect, etc.) wouldn&#8217;t be much use to the newly forged &#8220;casual smartphone user&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AJH</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-8175</link>
		<dc:creator>AJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJH,
&quot;Other than the difference in RAM, are there any other differences between 680p and 700p for a power user?&quot;

Well, 700p is CDMA and 680 is GSM.

Other than that, spec wise, no other differences.  The 680 does have a new UI.  

But the memory difference will be big for a power user.  Not because you couldn&#039;t run programs off of an SD card, but because of memory management problems.  Many users of the 650 are looking forward to the increased RAM of the 680 to decrease memory management induced resets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJH,<br />
&#8220;Other than the difference in RAM, are there any other differences between 680p and 700p for a power user?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, 700p is CDMA and 680 is GSM.</p>
<p>Other than that, spec wise, no other differences.  The 680 does have a new UI.  </p>
<p>But the memory difference will be big for a power user.  Not because you couldn&#8217;t run programs off of an SD card, but because of memory management problems.  Many users of the 650 are looking forward to the increased RAM of the 680 to decrease memory management induced resets.</p>
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		<title>By: TxDot</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-8123</link>
		<dc:creator>TxDot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrected link from SuppOrtLinux&#039; post (removed the trailing period);
http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2006/10/treo_680_dates.html

Also, how certain are &quot;we&quot; that T-Mobile will offer the 680? Since they just got the Dash I&#039;m not sure they are going to offer the 680 unless Palm agrees to add WiFi which I believe is possible but other providers (e.g. Sprint) have insisted they not include it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected link from SuppOrtLinux&#8217; post (removed the trailing period);<br />
<a href="http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2006/10/treo_680_dates.html" rel="nofollow">http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2006/10/treo_680_dates.html</a></p>
<p>Also, how certain are &#8220;we&#8221; that T-Mobile will offer the 680? Since they just got the Dash I&#8217;m not sure they are going to offer the 680 unless Palm agrees to add WiFi which I believe is possible but other providers (e.g. Sprint) have insisted they not include it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin Chery</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7971</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin Chery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be glad to see them launch it for free
it will probably cost 720 in the long run but lots of people dont have 720 to shell ou in one day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be glad to see them launch it for free<br />
it will probably cost 720 in the long run but lots of people dont have 720 to shell ou in one day</p>
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		<title>By: Supp0rtLinux</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7938</link>
		<dc:creator>Supp0rtLinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to concur with curtis and Hugh Jass... and being an Associate Writer on PalmAddict (as Andrew Davis), I feel its important to cut the fluff and crap. The Treo 680 that has been announced is a GSM/EDGE only device. The CDMA carriers already got their plethora of Palm and Windows based Treo&#039;s this year. Until we hear of a 680 with CDMA (which won&#039;t be a 680, but a 685 or a 690, etc), consider this article/post/comment to be rubbish. Palm *is* going to get the 680 sold through all the major GSM carriers, but in the US, that&#039;s only going to be Cingular and T-Mobile.

Now as to the data plan lock-in... on one hand I say that sounds just like something that Cingular would do. But on the other hand, my Sony UX180P came with an integrated EDGE modem and a Cingular partnership, but they were only offering $40 a month for unlimited data. I&#039;m surprised they&#039;d offer it for less for a Treo, but whatever.

As for some possibly valid data about when we&#039;ll see the new Treo and the possible cost, see this link: http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2006/10/treo_680_dates.html. In summary... &quot;one month and either $149 or $199 depending on the length of your contract&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to concur with curtis and Hugh Jass&#8230; and being an Associate Writer on PalmAddict (as Andrew Davis), I feel its important to cut the fluff and crap. The Treo 680 that has been announced is a GSM/EDGE only device. The CDMA carriers already got their plethora of Palm and Windows based Treo&#8217;s this year. Until we hear of a 680 with CDMA (which won&#8217;t be a 680, but a 685 or a 690, etc), consider this article/post/comment to be rubbish. Palm *is* going to get the 680 sold through all the major GSM carriers, but in the US, that&#8217;s only going to be Cingular and T-Mobile.</p>
<p>Now as to the data plan lock-in&#8230; on one hand I say that sounds just like something that Cingular would do. But on the other hand, my Sony UX180P came with an integrated EDGE modem and a Cingular partnership, but they were only offering $40 a month for unlimited data. I&#8217;m surprised they&#8217;d offer it for less for a Treo, but whatever.</p>
<p>As for some possibly valid data about when we&#8217;ll see the new Treo and the possible cost, see this link: <a href="http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2006/10/treo_680_dates.html" rel="nofollow">http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2006/10/treo_680_dates.html</a>. In summary&#8230; &#8220;one month and either $149 or $199 depending on the length of your contract&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AJH</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7937</link>
		<dc:creator>AJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was getting ready to get a 700p in a couple of months. Other than the difference in RAM, are there any other differences between 680p and 700p for a power user? I can&#039;t seem to find any...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was getting ready to get a 700p in a couple of months. Other than the difference in RAM, are there any other differences between 680p and 700p for a power user? I can&#8217;t seem to find any&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7830</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, kids, but this article is BS. WTF do Verizon and Sprint have to do with the 680? It&#039;s GSM and there isn&#039;t currently a CDMA version in the works. 

Also, Garnet (Palm OS 5) can&#039;t support an additional data stack. You get voice, 1xRTT/GPRS/EDGE/EvDO data, and Bluetooth. Your data service would have to be disabled in order to access the WiFi, as Shadowmite&#039;s hack a couple years ago showed us. Palm can certainly write a driver to do this properly, but they won&#039;t. And T-Mobile will certainly have no say in the matter. 

Oh, and off subject, but Garnet can&#039;t support UMTS/HSDPA either, so you&#039;re out of luck there too -- that&#039;s why the 680 lacks 3G. It&#039;s being marketed as an entry-level phone because it can&#039;t support GSM 3G, not because it doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, kids, but this article is BS. WTF do Verizon and Sprint have to do with the 680? It&#8217;s GSM and there isn&#8217;t currently a CDMA version in the works. </p>
<p>Also, Garnet (Palm OS 5) can&#8217;t support an additional data stack. You get voice, 1xRTT/GPRS/EDGE/EvDO data, and Bluetooth. Your data service would have to be disabled in order to access the WiFi, as Shadowmite&#8217;s hack a couple years ago showed us. Palm can certainly write a driver to do this properly, but they won&#8217;t. And T-Mobile will certainly have no say in the matter. </p>
<p>Oh, and off subject, but Garnet can&#8217;t support UMTS/HSDPA either, so you&#8217;re out of luck there too &#8212; that&#8217;s why the 680 lacks 3G. It&#8217;s being marketed as an entry-level phone because it can&#8217;t support GSM 3G, not because it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: cingular plan &#187; Cingular plan - Possible Treo 680 Launch Plans</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7803</link>
		<dc:creator>cingular plan &#187; Cingular plan - Possible Treo 680 Launch Plans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Possible Treo 680 Launch PlansCrunchGear,&#160;NY&#160;- 3 hours agoOne method of deployment possible is with Cingular, offering their 680 for free, but forcing the customer to sign up for a $30 internet plan. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Possible Treo 680 Launch PlansCrunchGear,&nbsp;NY&nbsp;- 3 hours agoOne method of deployment possible is with Cingular, offering their 680 for free, but forcing the customer to sign up for a $30 internet plan. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7793</link>
		<dc:creator>curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sprint and Verizon are out of the question until Palm creates a CDMA Treo 680. All the specs out there (on the Web) clearly say this is a quadband EDGE device.

I&#039;d be really bummed if the only way I could get one was through Cingular&#039;s $30/mo data plan. I used to have a 650 on Cingular and I only had to pay $20/month for &quot;media max 200 bundle&quot; for 200 txt and unlimited &quot;medianet&quot; aka internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sprint and Verizon are out of the question until Palm creates a CDMA Treo 680. All the specs out there (on the Web) clearly say this is a quadband EDGE device.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be really bummed if the only way I could get one was through Cingular&#8217;s $30/mo data plan. I used to have a 650 on Cingular and I only had to pay $20/month for &#8220;media max 200 bundle&#8221; for 200 txt and unlimited &#8220;medianet&#8221; aka internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7785</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a chance of a Sprint branded 680?  Everything I have read until now only mentioned GSM phones.  I would be interested in a cheap(er) Treo alternative to replace my ailing 600.  My wife might finally get on the Treo bandwagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a chance of a Sprint branded 680?  Everything I have read until now only mentioned GSM phones.  I would be interested in a cheap(er) Treo alternative to replace my ailing 600.  My wife might finally get on the Treo bandwagon.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcmywrdz</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/16/possible-treo-680-launch-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-7774</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcmywrdz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed that people STILL pay for T-Mobile&#039;s Hotspots. Maybe I&#039;m just spoiled by living in Los Angeles, but I can&#039;t sneeze without hitting a free WiFi location--coffee shops, schools, libraries--you name it.  Maybe it&#039;s different in other places. Perhaps is T-Mobile would combine an affordable plan that would combine laptop with Treo would sell, but T-Mobile hasn&#039;t seemed to grasp the notion of a fair value. I have a laptop w/ WiFi and a Treo 700p (Sprint, EvDo) and am completely covered.  Anyway, just a non-techie / consumer reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed that people STILL pay for T-Mobile&#8217;s Hotspots. Maybe I&#8217;m just spoiled by living in Los Angeles, but I can&#8217;t sneeze without hitting a free WiFi location&#8211;coffee shops, schools, libraries&#8211;you name it.  Maybe it&#8217;s different in other places. Perhaps is T-Mobile would combine an affordable plan that would combine laptop with Treo would sell, but T-Mobile hasn&#8217;t seemed to grasp the notion of a fair value. I have a laptop w/ WiFi and a Treo 700p (Sprint, EvDo) and am completely covered.  Anyway, just a non-techie / consumer reaction.</p>
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