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	<title>Comments on: Sony Talks Playstation 3 And Blu-Ray</title>
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		<title>By: Dame Dash</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8301</link>
		<dc:creator>Dame Dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you guys hating on the PS3 are all gonna look real dumb when the PS3 drops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you guys hating on the PS3 are all gonna look real dumb when the PS3 drops.</p>
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		<title>By: LKM</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8258</link>
		<dc:creator>LKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link about the Bluray drive speed:
http://www.hellogamer.com/2006/09/04/ps3-game-loads-will-be-a-lot-slower-than-xbox-360/

(...)
Bigger disc size means more time needed for the drive to access the data. Blu-ray drives can read at a speed of 2X at 2mb per second.
(...)
To put things in perspective, an HD-DVD disc can be accessed at a speed of 12X at 16mb per second. That’s a lot faster than the Blu-ray drives, but still slower than today’s DVD drives which can read up to 16X. The Xbox 360 runs DVD 9gb games at 16X and some seem to take forever to load, so you could imagine how long a 25gb PS3 game would take to load at 2X.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link about the Bluray drive speed:<br />
<a href="http://www.hellogamer.com/2006/09/04/ps3-game-loads-will-be-a-lot-slower-than-xbox-360/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hellogamer.com/2006/09/04/ps3-game-loads-will-be-a-lot-slower-than-xbox-360/</a></p>
<p>(&#8230;)<br />
Bigger disc size means more time needed for the drive to access the data. Blu-ray drives can read at a speed of 2X at 2mb per second.<br />
(&#8230;)<br />
To put things in perspective, an HD-DVD disc can be accessed at a speed of 12X at 16mb per second. That’s a lot faster than the Blu-ray drives, but still slower than today’s DVD drives which can read up to 16X. The Xbox 360 runs DVD 9gb games at 16X and some seem to take forever to load, so you could imagine how long a 25gb PS3 game would take to load at 2X.<br />
(&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: LKM</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>LKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;righto LKM, we get that you like the xbox 360…

I don&#039;t. I don&#039;t own a 360 and won&#039;t buy one until it costs about half as much as it does now. I&#039;m a Nintendo fanboy, though :-)


&gt;LKM forgets that ‘data throughput’ is only one element.

No, I don&#039;t. I just hate games that make me wait through slow loading screens. And cut scenes do not a good game make. Publishers won&#039;t use all that room to make better games. They&#039;ll probably mostly use it to include all language versions in one disk, which makes it cheaper for them since they&#039;ll only have one disk image to keep track of.


&gt;If the Blu-Ray drive is slower, it’s because more data 
&gt;is packed in a smaller area than on a normal dvd

No. It doesn&#039;t *turn* slower, it reads data slower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;righto LKM, we get that you like the xbox 360…</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t own a 360 and won&#8217;t buy one until it costs about half as much as it does now. I&#8217;m a Nintendo fanboy, though :-)</p>
<p>&gt;LKM forgets that ‘data throughput’ is only one element.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t. I just hate games that make me wait through slow loading screens. And cut scenes do not a good game make. Publishers won&#8217;t use all that room to make better games. They&#8217;ll probably mostly use it to include all language versions in one disk, which makes it cheaper for them since they&#8217;ll only have one disk image to keep track of.</p>
<p>&gt;If the Blu-Ray drive is slower, it’s because more data<br />
&gt;is packed in a smaller area than on a normal dvd</p>
<p>No. It doesn&#8217;t *turn* slower, it reads data slower.</p>
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		<title>By: janus</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8247</link>
		<dc:creator>janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All questions and comparisons to be answered soon in time. Me...well I&#039;m laughing already. Seen the PS3. You&#039;re in for a whammy...! BAM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All questions and comparisons to be answered soon in time. Me&#8230;well I&#8217;m laughing already. Seen the PS3. You&#8217;re in for a whammy&#8230;! BAM!</p>
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		<title>By: repo</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8218</link>
		<dc:creator>repo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuck the ps3 it looks shit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuck the ps3 it looks shit</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8215</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dont think any of you idiots know what you are talking about.  Get real with yourselves and quit comparing the consoles before the ps3 as even hit the shelves.  Until it does none of you guys know crap about anything thats going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dont think any of you idiots know what you are talking about.  Get real with yourselves and quit comparing the consoles before the ps3 as even hit the shelves.  Until it does none of you guys know crap about anything thats going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Abyss</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8208</link>
		<dc:creator>Abyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Blu-Ray drive is slower, it&#039;s because more data is packed in a smaller area than on a normal dvd, therefore it doesn&#039;t have to spin as fast to read data across a wider spectrum, as is the case with the 360 drive. Six rotational spins of the 360&#039;s drive to retrieve and display informational data, may equate to half a rotational spin of the PS3&#039;s drive to achieve the same results, and probably then some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Blu-Ray drive is slower, it&#8217;s because more data is packed in a smaller area than on a normal dvd, therefore it doesn&#8217;t have to spin as fast to read data across a wider spectrum, as is the case with the 360 drive. Six rotational spins of the 360&#8217;s drive to retrieve and display informational data, may equate to half a rotational spin of the PS3&#8217;s drive to achieve the same results, and probably then some.</p>
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		<title>By: xbotsecks</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8204</link>
		<dc:creator>xbotsecks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ll be laughing at your xbots faces when 50gb games come out---</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll be laughing at your xbots faces when 50gb games come out&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8202</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get a job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get a job</p>
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		<title>By: The Overlord</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8151</link>
		<dc:creator>The Overlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not just about graphics. .............. it’s everything that goes into making a very rich and varied next-gen experience.&quot;

sorry but that&#039;s bullsh*t, a console is only as &#039;rich and varied&#039; as the games available for it. i haven&#039;t seen the PS3 launch line-up so chances are it has a wide range games from different genres, but what a console can do in terms of power (the whole graphics, audio, 1080p movies in game thing) does not make it any more varied an experience as any other console, unless the input method for playing games on the console is different from the standard controller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not just about graphics. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. it’s everything that goes into making a very rich and varied next-gen experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry but that&#8217;s bullsh*t, a console is only as &#8216;rich and varied&#8217; as the games available for it. i haven&#8217;t seen the PS3 launch line-up so chances are it has a wide range games from different genres, but what a console can do in terms of power (the whole graphics, audio, 1080p movies in game thing) does not make it any more varied an experience as any other console, unless the input method for playing games on the console is different from the standard controller.</p>
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		<title>By: The Overlord</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8149</link>
		<dc:creator>The Overlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not just about graphics. It’s about ........ it’s everything that goes into making a very rich and varied next-gen experience.&quot;

sorry but that&#039;s bullsh*t, the experience is playing the games, therefore a console is only as &#039;rich and varied&#039; as its games. i havent seen the PS3 launch line-up so chances are it has a wide range of different genre games available, but what a console can do in terms of power does not make it any more rich and varied than any other console</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not just about graphics. It’s about &#8230;&#8230;.. it’s everything that goes into making a very rich and varied next-gen experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry but that&#8217;s bullsh*t, the experience is playing the games, therefore a console is only as &#8216;rich and varied&#8217; as its games. i havent seen the PS3 launch line-up so chances are it has a wide range of different genre games available, but what a console can do in terms of power does not make it any more rich and varied than any other console</p>
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		<title>By: WELLINFORMED</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8133</link>
		<dc:creator>WELLINFORMED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOMEONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLV DRIVES AND CAV DRIVES TO LKM.  THE 12X DVD DRIVE IS ONLY FASTER WHEN IT GETS TO THE OUTER EDGE OF THE DISK.  PLUS, I BELIEVE THE SEEK TIMES ARE MUCH HIGHER ON DVD DRIVES THAN BLU-RAY DRIVES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOMEONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLV DRIVES AND CAV DRIVES TO LKM.  THE 12X DVD DRIVE IS ONLY FASTER WHEN IT GETS TO THE OUTER EDGE OF THE DISK.  PLUS, I BELIEVE THE SEEK TIMES ARE MUCH HIGHER ON DVD DRIVES THAN BLU-RAY DRIVES.</p>
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		<title>By: Turk</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8113</link>
		<dc:creator>Turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The simple, material fact is that the PS3, as Harrison emphasises, is about a more rounded, fuller, immersive experience built on future-proof technology and multi-media machine.
That&#039;s all there is to the PS3 advantage. the 360 is simply a beefed up gaming machine, which is fine if that&#039;s all you want.
LKM forgets that &#039;data throughput&#039; is only one element. Blu-ray has far greater capacity whick allows for more story, graphics, music, detail and pretty much everything else that goes into a game.
Microsoft rushed out the 360 to get ahead of the release game and now bolting on enhancements just to catch up with sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple, material fact is that the PS3, as Harrison emphasises, is about a more rounded, fuller, immersive experience built on future-proof technology and multi-media machine.<br />
That&#8217;s all there is to the PS3 advantage. the 360 is simply a beefed up gaming machine, which is fine if that&#8217;s all you want.<br />
LKM forgets that &#8216;data throughput&#8217; is only one element. Blu-ray has far greater capacity whick allows for more story, graphics, music, detail and pretty much everything else that goes into a game.<br />
Microsoft rushed out the 360 to get ahead of the release game and now bolting on enhancements just to catch up with sony.</p>
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		<title>By: General Tso</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8112</link>
		<dc:creator>General Tso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, please....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, please&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: j-j-jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/18/sony-talks-playstation-3-and-blu-ray/comment-page-1/#comment-8104</link>
		<dc:creator>j-j-jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>righto LKM, we get that you like the xbox 360...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>righto LKM, we get that you like the xbox 360&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LKM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;DVD is not sufficient capacity to power 
&gt;the kind of data consumption, or to feed 
&gt;the data consumption needs of Cell and RSX

Except that the 360&#039;s DVD drive is way faster than the PS3&#039;s Bluray drive and thus more capable of &quot;feeding the data consumption&quot; of its chip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;DVD is not sufficient capacity to power<br />
&gt;the kind of data consumption, or to feed<br />
&gt;the data consumption needs of Cell and RSX</p>
<p>Except that the 360&#8217;s DVD drive is way faster than the PS3&#8217;s Bluray drive and thus more capable of &#8220;feeding the data consumption&#8221; of its chip.</p>
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