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	<title>Comments on: L.A. Boy Scouts Giving Copyrighted Material The Respect It Deserves</title>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

I wasn&#039;t replying to your comment, which I agree with.  Rather, my separate comment was directed at Gavin&#039;s original post, particularly his unrepentant confession to violating copyright law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t replying to your comment, which I agree with.  Rather, my separate comment was directed at Gavin&#8217;s original post, particularly his unrepentant confession to violating copyright law.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I understand your point about refreshing my memory of the meaning of trustworthy and thrifty.  I didn&#039;t use those words in my rant so I&#039;m not sure why I need to review their meaning.  

If you mean that media companies sometimes are not trustworthy themselves and use their budgets in ways that are not careful economically (thrifty) you have no argument here.  If the studios were to write the curriculum for a &quot;business ethics&quot; merit badge I would have a problem.  But their stance on protecting copyrighted material is a correct one and, aside from the music industry, nobody has more to lose than them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand your point about refreshing my memory of the meaning of trustworthy and thrifty.  I didn&#8217;t use those words in my rant so I&#8217;m not sure why I need to review their meaning.  </p>
<p>If you mean that media companies sometimes are not trustworthy themselves and use their budgets in ways that are not careful economically (thrifty) you have no argument here.  If the studios were to write the curriculum for a &#8220;business ethics&#8221; merit badge I would have a problem.  But their stance on protecting copyrighted material is a correct one and, aside from the music industry, nobody has more to lose than them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Hammerschmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Hammerschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this a bit odd, and agree that it has a bit of the feel of feeding one side of a narrow interest.

But I would not have been the least bit put off by a &quot;business ethics&quot; or a &quot;publication ethics&quot; program that had a badge associated with it ... projects could examine ethical issues on both sides of the business/consumer divide, and even get into the fun stuff analyzing tension between competing rights and interests. Of course, that would require thought and might even provoke debate and disagreement --- rote memory is so much easier to manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this a bit odd, and agree that it has a bit of the feel of feeding one side of a narrow interest.</p>
<p>But I would not have been the least bit put off by a &#8220;business ethics&#8221; or a &#8220;publication ethics&#8221; program that had a badge associated with it &#8230; projects could examine ethical issues on both sides of the business/consumer divide, and even get into the fun stuff analyzing tension between competing rights and interests. Of course, that would require thought and might even provoke debate and disagreement &#8212; rote memory is so much easier to manage.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On my honor, I will do my best ... to keep myself ... morally straight.&quot;

I didn&#039;t make it to Eagle Scout, but I remember that much.  While I find it disappointing that the Los Angeles Area Council is depending on curriculum developed by Industry, I am not particularly offended by it.

Meanwhile, you might dust off your dictionary to refresh your memory on the word &quot;Trustworthy&quot; and recognize that &quot;Thrifty&quot; excludes illicit activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On my honor, I will do my best &#8230; to keep myself &#8230; morally straight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make it to Eagle Scout, but I remember that much.  While I find it disappointing that the Los Angeles Area Council is depending on curriculum developed by Industry, I am not particularly offended by it.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you might dust off your dictionary to refresh your memory on the word &#8220;Trustworthy&#8221; and recognize that &#8220;Thrifty&#8221; excludes illicit activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On what levels does it make you sad?  

The Boy Scouts created a merit badge where the goal is to learn about the world of copyright ownership, learn what the definition of stealing is and then don&#039;t do it.&quot;  And the people who justly don&#039;t want their stuff stolen and who have the most experience with stolen material helped write the criteria.   I&#039;m sure you wouldn&#039;t mind if Greenpeace helped write the criteria for the Ecology merit badge.  Or if the Olympic Swim team was consulted for the Swimming merit badge.   This isn&#039;t the SONY Merit Badge. 

It makes ME sad that a professed Eagle Scout has become so morally lost that he defends this position by painting a picture of &quot;suits at Spago&quot; as if that &quot;suit&quot; didn&#039;t earn his way to lunching at Spago by being bright and talented over many years.   Those suits you resent are doing everything they can to teach people that dozens and in some cases hundreds of people are not getting paid for their work because people have found an easy way to steal their work.  They are protecting their company, sure, but that also means they&#039;re protecting the stockholders and the tens of thousands of people who work for them and rely on residuals for income. 

So what exactly makes you sad?  That the big, greedy corporate guys are using the scouts as a tool to further their selfish corporate goals?   When you downloaded Snakes On A Plane without paying you stole.  From a lot of non-suit people who worked for the companies these suits control.  

It appears you learned nothing about character from your years of scouting.  THAT is sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what levels does it make you sad?  </p>
<p>The Boy Scouts created a merit badge where the goal is to learn about the world of copyright ownership, learn what the definition of stealing is and then don&#8217;t do it.&#8221;  And the people who justly don&#8217;t want their stuff stolen and who have the most experience with stolen material helped write the criteria.   I&#8217;m sure you wouldn&#8217;t mind if Greenpeace helped write the criteria for the Ecology merit badge.  Or if the Olympic Swim team was consulted for the Swimming merit badge.   This isn&#8217;t the SONY Merit Badge. </p>
<p>It makes ME sad that a professed Eagle Scout has become so morally lost that he defends this position by painting a picture of &#8220;suits at Spago&#8221; as if that &#8220;suit&#8221; didn&#8217;t earn his way to lunching at Spago by being bright and talented over many years.   Those suits you resent are doing everything they can to teach people that dozens and in some cases hundreds of people are not getting paid for their work because people have found an easy way to steal their work.  They are protecting their company, sure, but that also means they&#8217;re protecting the stockholders and the tens of thousands of people who work for them and rely on residuals for income. </p>
<p>So what exactly makes you sad?  That the big, greedy corporate guys are using the scouts as a tool to further their selfish corporate goals?   When you downloaded Snakes On A Plane without paying you stole.  From a lot of non-suit people who worked for the companies these suits control.  </p>
<p>It appears you learned nothing about character from your years of scouting.  THAT is sad.</p>
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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent To Pre-Install Software On Electronics</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/10/22/la-boy-scouts-giving-copyrighted-material-the-respect-it-deserves/comment-page-1/#comment-9129</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent To Pre-Install Software On Electronics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Illegal downloading just got a good bit easier, L.A. Boy Scouts Be Damned. Software maker BitTorrent has signed a deal that will enable it to pre-install its software on electronic devices. The first companies to go along with this are Asustek Computer, Planex Communication and QNAP Systems. If all goes according to plan, and the RIAA and MPAA don&#8217;t intervene some time soon, BitTorrent will be available on wireless routers, media servers and network attached storage (NAS) devices pretty soon. While I understand the worth of something like this, it&#8217;s being touted as a &#8220;PC-less downloading solution.&#8221; But how are you going to access your NAS without a PC? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Illegal downloading just got a good bit easier, L.A. Boy Scouts Be Damned. Software maker BitTorrent has signed a deal that will enable it to pre-install its software on electronic devices. The first companies to go along with this are Asustek Computer, Planex Communication and QNAP Systems. If all goes according to plan, and the RIAA and MPAA don&#8217;t intervene some time soon, BitTorrent will be available on wireless routers, media servers and network attached storage (NAS) devices pretty soon. While I understand the worth of something like this, it&#8217;s being touted as a &#8220;PC-less downloading solution.&#8221; But how are you going to access your NAS without a PC? [...]</p>
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