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	<title>Comments on: The Futurist: MacWorld&#8217;s-A-Comin&#8217; or&#8230; The Perfect Musicphone</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2006/12/28/the-futurist-macworlds-a-comin-or-the-perfect-musicphone/comment-page-1/#comment-54923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with a super iPhone market is that it really isn&#039;t applicable to Apple&#039;s monetary or profit models. The cellular phone market is based around the 2-year contract, which although is very unpopular, won&#039;t be going away anytime soon. So manufacturers build their phones cheap (less memory) and less innovative (not super streaming market yet), because they know their users are in the end only buying their phones to make phone calls (and the occasional text). All the advertisements and gimmicks of a &quot;music phone&quot; is crap, because really if the consumer wanted to listen to music he would carry around a dedicated music player. Sure this concept could change, but the market is what it is.

Now if Apple is trying to market a phone, they&#039;re going to stick to their guns and their current market plan, which is making a really great product that is innovative and cutting edge. That however means hefty prices. Heck it&#039;d even look good with neat colors, slim shape, and simple styling. But again, this means EXPENSIVE PHONES.

Looking at the market right now, every wireless provider offers a huge variety of phones, from the free to the 50 dollar affordable to the occasional paycheck busting-right-out-of-Japan/Korea phone which costs a whopping 350 dollars. Apple could definitely stand to benefit by hitting this market, but then what? Their phone could not be any cheaper or else Apple would be losing money in making their phones.

All in all, 2.5 mm headphone jacks do suck, but buy a 2.5mm adapter. Low memory does suck, but I managed to pick up a 1gb microSD card for 25 bucks, you can too. If you really want to make your phone a music playing phone, it is possible, you just have to prove to Samsung and Motorola that you really want to listen to music. And right now, 99.9% of the market is willing to carry around an extra item like an iPod to do that rather than buy an expensive phone which will last only a two or three years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with a super iPhone market is that it really isn&#8217;t applicable to Apple&#8217;s monetary or profit models. The cellular phone market is based around the 2-year contract, which although is very unpopular, won&#8217;t be going away anytime soon. So manufacturers build their phones cheap (less memory) and less innovative (not super streaming market yet), because they know their users are in the end only buying their phones to make phone calls (and the occasional text). All the advertisements and gimmicks of a &#8220;music phone&#8221; is crap, because really if the consumer wanted to listen to music he would carry around a dedicated music player. Sure this concept could change, but the market is what it is.</p>
<p>Now if Apple is trying to market a phone, they&#8217;re going to stick to their guns and their current market plan, which is making a really great product that is innovative and cutting edge. That however means hefty prices. Heck it&#8217;d even look good with neat colors, slim shape, and simple styling. But again, this means EXPENSIVE PHONES.</p>
<p>Looking at the market right now, every wireless provider offers a huge variety of phones, from the free to the 50 dollar affordable to the occasional paycheck busting-right-out-of-Japan/Korea phone which costs a whopping 350 dollars. Apple could definitely stand to benefit by hitting this market, but then what? Their phone could not be any cheaper or else Apple would be losing money in making their phones.</p>
<p>All in all, 2.5 mm headphone jacks do suck, but buy a 2.5mm adapter. Low memory does suck, but I managed to pick up a 1gb microSD card for 25 bucks, you can too. If you really want to make your phone a music playing phone, it is possible, you just have to prove to Samsung and Motorola that you really want to listen to music. And right now, 99.9% of the market is willing to carry around an extra item like an iPod to do that rather than buy an expensive phone which will last only a two or three years.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phones need a standard sized headphone jack and a SD card slot for storage. My RAZR is not much bigger than my IPOD. If apple can take the 5G Ipod and modify it for phone capabilities they will have a nice little device there. I doubt there would be a hard drive, but a cheap, high capacity storage medium would do the phone well. You can pick up a 4GB SD card for under $70 if you really dig around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phones need a standard sized headphone jack and a SD card slot for storage. My RAZR is not much bigger than my IPOD. If apple can take the 5G Ipod and modify it for phone capabilities they will have a nice little device there. I doubt there would be a hard drive, but a cheap, high capacity storage medium would do the phone well. You can pick up a 4GB SD card for under $70 if you really dig around.</p>
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		<title>By: Lp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really believe Apple will clean up on all of the four problems.  I mean, even six years later, its still pretty amazing to think you can hold gigs of media in your pocket, along with the supreme experience that is all things Apple.

Here is my philosophy, almost all iPod owners would gladly purchase another.  Its a lot of money to throw down, but at the end of the day it is worth it because it just works.  Those people will be loyal to a new iPod product.

PLUS, a lot of people are getting sick of the 2-year contract.  Its a model that only works because the consumer gets a &quot;free&quot; phone.  But consumers are getting wise to this.  I am at the place, now, and I suspect many consumers are already there, where I would gladly pay up front for a great piece of technology and be free from the 2-year ball-and-chain.  

Which is to say, I think people will pay the $XXX for the iPod / phone.  They can justify it by the iPod functionality alone.  The phone is almost a bonus, a freeing bonus.

Lp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really believe Apple will clean up on all of the four problems.  I mean, even six years later, its still pretty amazing to think you can hold gigs of media in your pocket, along with the supreme experience that is all things Apple.</p>
<p>Here is my philosophy, almost all iPod owners would gladly purchase another.  Its a lot of money to throw down, but at the end of the day it is worth it because it just works.  Those people will be loyal to a new iPod product.</p>
<p>PLUS, a lot of people are getting sick of the 2-year contract.  Its a model that only works because the consumer gets a &#8220;free&#8221; phone.  But consumers are getting wise to this.  I am at the place, now, and I suspect many consumers are already there, where I would gladly pay up front for a great piece of technology and be free from the 2-year ball-and-chain.  </p>
<p>Which is to say, I think people will pay the $XXX for the iPod / phone.  They can justify it by the iPod functionality alone.  The phone is almost a bonus, a freeing bonus.</p>
<p>Lp</p>
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		<title>By: bpm2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>bpm2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headphone jack - so so so neccessary and agreed.

I guess I&#039;m in the minority when I want my components to have a little bit of heft (little bit, not fatty).  RAZR thin is nice but not necessary.  I&#039;m waiting for the N95 myself..drool.

If anything, it is the network that is a biggest deal.  With the faster 3G speeds rolling out people can take advantage of media options much more fluidly - if the speeds and network isn&#039;t available then no matter how good the apple phone is i dont see it doing too well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headphone jack &#8211; so so so neccessary and agreed.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m in the minority when I want my components to have a little bit of heft (little bit, not fatty).  RAZR thin is nice but not necessary.  I&#8217;m waiting for the N95 myself..drool.</p>
<p>If anything, it is the network that is a biggest deal.  With the faster 3G speeds rolling out people can take advantage of media options much more fluidly &#8211; if the speeds and network isn&#8217;t available then no matter how good the apple phone is i dont see it doing too well.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree that the musicphone market is still pretty immature (i.e. there is nothing THAT great out there). However, I love the ability to play music using my Treo 700p.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that the musicphone market is still pretty immature (i.e. there is nothing THAT great out there). However, I love the ability to play music using my Treo 700p&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The undersized headphones jack is one of my biggest issues with the current state of cell phones.  Owning three pairs of headphones of various makes and models all costing over $100, I do not believe i should be forced to buy another that can only be used on my phone.  Unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The undersized headphones jack is one of my biggest issues with the current state of cell phones.  Owning three pairs of headphones of various makes and models all costing over $100, I do not believe i should be forced to buy another that can only be used on my phone.  Unacceptable.</p>
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