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		<title>By: payasa</title>
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		<dc:creator>payasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so do i pay for everything .or how can i get these thigs or where can i find them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so do i pay for everything .or how can i get these thigs or where can i find them.</p>
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		<title>By: Knol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with  Rsplatpc.  Thi is Great article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with  Rsplatpc.  Thi is Great article!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Guerriero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Guerriero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, great article, if you ever need any help on a professional level check us out.  We're called GEMMusic and can be seen at www.GemMusicDemos.net.

We are songwriters and producers based in New York City who specialize in making cutting edge demos for unsigned artists and bands.  We also offer GENUINE career guidance.

Mike G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, great article, if you ever need any help on a professional level check us out.  We&#8217;re called GEMMusic and can be seen at <a href="http://www.GemMusicDemos.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.GemMusicDemos.net</a>.</p>
<p>We are songwriters and producers based in New York City who specialize in making cutting edge demos for unsigned artists and bands.  We also offer GENUINE career guidance.</p>
<p>Mike G</p>
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		<title>By: ciarteyuazx</title>
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		<dc:creator>ciarteyuazx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goreslutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>goreslutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 02:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man you should try using fruity loops! for the drum machine
that shyt pwns
ive never tryed drum station but i know fruity loops is good not only with drums but alot of cool sound effects</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man you should try using fruity loops! for the drum machine<br />
that shyt pwns<br />
ive never tryed drum station but i know fruity loops is good not only with drums but alot of cool sound effects</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 21:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering what are ur rates for to placing a song(s) on demo. I have some songs on demo now. But I have been browsing around to find the rate I can afford. If u want to view some of the songs I have on demo. My myspace site is www.myspace.com/karenlorraine I do get good views on some of the songs I already have up. If u have any questions u can let me know. 
Karen Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering what are ur rates for to placing a song(s) on demo. I have some songs on demo now. But I have been browsing around to find the rate I can afford. If u want to view some of the songs I have on demo. My myspace site is <a href="http://www.myspace.com/karenlorraine" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/karenlorraine</a> I do get good views on some of the songs I already have up. If u have any questions u can let me know.<br />
Karen Johnson</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Barr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone else for the comments.  For anyone with any kind of musical talent, I think it's fantastic that we have all these tools available to us.  

RsplatPC, if you pick up DrumStation, be sure to check out the wide variety of drumkits they have available.  I was such a novice when I first started using this stuff that I created my first album with the default drumkit, unaware that I could have been making much nicer sounds.  It can be a little tricky at times to make it not sound like a "machine", but lately I've taken to completing the ddum track for a song, rendering that as its own WAV file, then doing more editing in CoolEdit (reverb in particular is helpful).  That helps quite a bit.

Luc, that's a very good tip on plugging in a stereo directly to the 4-track.  I only recently hooked up an older system right next to my 4-track, but hadn't thought to connect the two.

Separator, DrumStation will let you change the volume of each and every piece of whatever drumkit you are using.  if you create a beat that has a bass drum, snare, hitat, and cymbal, each of those levels are customizable, and each has its own set of effects that can be used, including a "shift" effect that allows you to play a piece slightly off the regular beat if you need to (often very useful if you're doing a lot of fills).

Richard, if you already have a sound-proofed room, I would strongly reccommend going ahead and getting good PC or Mac software (the stuff I se certainly isn't your only option!) and a digital 4 or 8-track recorder.  With a decent microphone, you will be all set.  The drumkit software is computer-based, and I don't really know of any other alternative if you don't have real drums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone else for the comments.  For anyone with any kind of musical talent, I think it&#8217;s fantastic that we have all these tools available to us.  </p>
<p>RsplatPC, if you pick up DrumStation, be sure to check out the wide variety of drumkits they have available.  I was such a novice when I first started using this stuff that I created my first album with the default drumkit, unaware that I could have been making much nicer sounds.  It can be a little tricky at times to make it not sound like a &#8220;machine&#8221;, but lately I&#8217;ve taken to completing the ddum track for a song, rendering that as its own WAV file, then doing more editing in CoolEdit (reverb in particular is helpful).  That helps quite a bit.</p>
<p>Luc, that&#8217;s a very good tip on plugging in a stereo directly to the 4-track.  I only recently hooked up an older system right next to my 4-track, but hadn&#8217;t thought to connect the two.</p>
<p>Separator, DrumStation will let you change the volume of each and every piece of whatever drumkit you are using.  if you create a beat that has a bass drum, snare, hitat, and cymbal, each of those levels are customizable, and each has its own set of effects that can be used, including a &#8220;shift&#8221; effect that allows you to play a piece slightly off the regular beat if you need to (often very useful if you&#8217;re doing a lot of fills).</p>
<p>Richard, if you already have a sound-proofed room, I would strongly reccommend going ahead and getting good PC or Mac software (the stuff I se certainly isn&#8217;t your only option!) and a digital 4 or 8-track recorder.  With a decent microphone, you will be all set.  The drumkit software is computer-based, and I don&#8217;t really know of any other alternative if you don&#8217;t have real drums.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Barr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda,

For the simplest of setups, you could get away with plugging a microphone into the jack on your computer's sound card, but the quality would not be great.  I would strongly recommend shopping for a 4-track recorder.  Depending on your budget, you may want to go with analog (tapes), though in general, the digital media is easier for transferring files back and forth.

If you are wanting simple voice recordings, you may not need the editing software, though it can be very useful in cleaning up background noise.  Once you have a WAV or MP3 file, you can burn that to a CD.

If you have more specific questions that I can help you with, please visit my web site and e-mail me.  I apologize for not getting back sooner.  I check e-mail every day, and would be very happy to help.  rick@barr26.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda,</p>
<p>For the simplest of setups, you could get away with plugging a microphone into the jack on your computer&#8217;s sound card, but the quality would not be great.  I would strongly recommend shopping for a 4-track recorder.  Depending on your budget, you may want to go with analog (tapes), though in general, the digital media is easier for transferring files back and forth.</p>
<p>If you are wanting simple voice recordings, you may not need the editing software, though it can be very useful in cleaning up background noise.  Once you have a WAV or MP3 file, you can burn that to a CD.</p>
<p>If you have more specific questions that I can help you with, please visit my web site and e-mail me.  I apologize for not getting back sooner.  I check e-mail every day, and would be very happy to help.  <a href="mailto:rick@barr26.com">rick@barr26.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey im trying to record my band, we have a sound proofed room but i have absolutley no idea what else i need to get (apart from music equiptment). plus, how do i record the drumkit? do i need a computer? as you can see i really have no clue about anything other than playing music so a reply would be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey im trying to record my band, we have a sound proofed room but i have absolutley no idea what else i need to get (apart from music equiptment). plus, how do i record the drumkit? do i need a computer? as you can see i really have no clue about anything other than playing music so a reply would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Separator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Separator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if you want to record a standard drum kit (snare, kick, toms, floor, cymbals, hats) and wanted to change the levels of each of the pieces of the kit?

Could you do that with this setup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you want to record a standard drum kit (snare, kick, toms, floor, cymbals, hats) and wanted to change the levels of each of the pieces of the kit?</p>
<p>Could you do that with this setup?</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/02/26/help-key-how-to-record-your-music-demo-on-the-cheap/#comment-179167</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm looking forward to your response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to your response.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/02/26/help-key-how-to-record-your-music-demo-on-the-cheap/#comment-179165</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to record my voice on a cd to make a Demo. What do I need to do? I am an amature. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to record my voice on a cd to make a Demo. What do I need to do? I am an amature. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Luc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.

I couldn't agree more about BOSS Digital recorders.  I have the BR-1180-CD (http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/BR-1180CD/) and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

I already had an Shure SM-58 (who doesn't?) but I also sprung for an Audio Technica Studio Condenser Mic which, honestly, is a difference of night and day in terms of dynamics (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/53b8b7998922fb02/index.html).  Mind you, I built myself a sound-proofed studio which helps a lot.  If you're in an area where there is any kind of ambiant noise, don't bother with this condenser mic.  It'll pick up *and amplify* the pics I fiddle with in my pocket as I stand there singing.  It's that sensitive.

You say "The 4-track and microphone are pretty much all the hardware you will need…" but I think a cheap old second hand stereo (the kind with the big floor speakers) plugged straight into your digital board is a great (cheap) way of getting a feel for the sound quality and level you're aiming for.  Most of us (I think) grew up on those big monsters, so we know what they should sound like.  Saves you having to burn a CD or transfer your stuff out onto some other media in order to really have a listen.

The kicker (pun intended) here is that the BR-1180-CD version comes with its own integrated drum machine that does everything described above.  But if you can't go that route, you might as well check out the open source option posted in a comment above.  I like open source... here's why:

Once you've transferred your files onto your computer, I recommend Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/).  It does everything those other (co$tly) options do.  No question.  I've done it.  As an example… a few years back I hired a recording engineer to digitally remaster some old songs that I had on cassette from many moons ago.  It cost me $400 for one tape and the resulting CD is nowhere near the quality required for resale (or radio for that matter).  With Audacity, I spent $0 and was able to digitally remaster the same songs to the point that I'm actually considering not re-recording some of them.  It's that good.

The money you save on not buying any software will make the cost of the BR-1180CD more attainable.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more about BOSS Digital recorders.  I have the BR-1180-CD (http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/BR-1180CD/) and I wouldn&#8217;t trade it for anything.</p>
<p>I already had an Shure SM-58 (who doesn&#8217;t?) but I also sprung for an Audio Technica Studio Condenser Mic which, honestly, is a difference of night and day in terms of dynamics (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/53b8b7998922fb02/index.html).  Mind you, I built myself a sound-proofed studio which helps a lot.  If you&#8217;re in an area where there is any kind of ambiant noise, don&#8217;t bother with this condenser mic.  It&#8217;ll pick up *and amplify* the pics I fiddle with in my pocket as I stand there singing.  It&#8217;s that sensitive.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;The 4-track and microphone are pretty much all the hardware you will need…&#8221; but I think a cheap old second hand stereo (the kind with the big floor speakers) plugged straight into your digital board is a great (cheap) way of getting a feel for the sound quality and level you&#8217;re aiming for.  Most of us (I think) grew up on those big monsters, so we know what they should sound like.  Saves you having to burn a CD or transfer your stuff out onto some other media in order to really have a listen.</p>
<p>The kicker (pun intended) here is that the BR-1180-CD version comes with its own integrated drum machine that does everything described above.  But if you can&#8217;t go that route, you might as well check out the open source option posted in a comment above.  I like open source&#8230; here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve transferred your files onto your computer, I recommend Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/).  It does everything those other (co$tly) options do.  No question.  I&#8217;ve done it.  As an example… a few years back I hired a recording engineer to digitally remaster some old songs that I had on cassette from many moons ago.  It cost me $400 for one tape and the resulting CD is nowhere near the quality required for resale (or radio for that matter).  With Audacity, I spent $0 and was able to digitally remaster the same songs to the point that I&#8217;m actually considering not re-recording some of them.  It&#8217;s that good.</p>
<p>The money you save on not buying any software will make the cost of the BR-1180CD more attainable.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: BHSPitMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHSPitMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hydrogen is another really great drum machine.  Free, Open-source, cross-platform.

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/

Oh, and if you use Linux, Jokosher is a great up-and-coming recording software.  (Also free.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hydrogen is another really great drum machine.  Free, Open-source, cross-platform.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hydrogen-music.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hydrogen-music.org/</a></p>
<p>Oh, and if you use Linux, Jokosher is a great up-and-coming recording software.  (Also free.)</p>
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		<title>By: judson</title>
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		<dc:creator>judson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice

here's what can be done with garageband and the built mic on a powerbook

http://ackackack.com/index2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice</p>
<p>here&#8217;s what can be done with garageband and the built mic on a powerbook</p>
<p><a href="http://ackackack.com/index2.html" rel="nofollow">http://ackackack.com/index2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rsplatpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rsplatpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, great article! I play bass, THANK YOU a million for turning me onto drum station!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, great article! I play bass, THANK YOU a million for turning me onto drum station!</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic guide! I've been sneaking into my old college to use their professional equipment with shoddy results for years. Now I can do it at home and it sounds fantastic for a novice like me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic guide! I&#8217;ve been sneaking into my old college to use their professional equipment with shoddy results for years. Now I can do it at home and it sounds fantastic for a novice like me :)</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/02/26/help-key-how-to-record-your-music-demo-on-the-cheap/#comment-124051</link>
		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used Acid for quite some years. It's very easy to use. I think I sequenced about a 160 songs on it - very happy with the results. I actually managed to get my copy free from SoundForge for a newspaper article I wrote about digital music. But I'd pay for another copy (which I'll be doing later this year.)

I actually combined mine with Reason, but that's not cheap either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Acid for quite some years. It&#8217;s very easy to use. I think I sequenced about a 160 songs on it - very happy with the results. I actually managed to get my copy free from SoundForge for a newspaper article I wrote about digital music. But I&#8217;d pay for another copy (which I&#8217;ll be doing later this year.)</p>
<p>I actually combined mine with Reason, but that&#8217;s not cheap either.</p>
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