Comments on: A CrunchGear Investigation: The Trouble With Tasers - What The Manufacturer Doesn’t Want You To Know http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: angel101 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-703208 angel101 Wed, 21 May 2008 18:32:02 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-703208 tasers are very harmful in schools and in general they were made to injur and then they started to kill its an expairment gone wrong. theres no more to that tasers are very harmful in schools and in general they were made to injur and then they started to kill its an expairment gone wrong.

theres no more to that

]]> By: angel 100% http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-701747 angel 100% Tue, 20 May 2008 20:37:11 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-701747 wow some of this is good but other is bull wow some of this is good but other is bull

]]> By: angel 100% http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-701743 angel 100% Tue, 20 May 2008 20:33:51 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-701743 i agree with chrs they wont us the taser unless its an emergencey i agree with chrs they wont us the taser unless its an emergencey

]]> By: Mr. Goldman http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-583751 Mr. Goldman Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:16:26 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-583751 The use of taser's are effective with proper use only. Their are 2 draw backs with the inproper use of the product. (1) If the product is used for an extended period of time of 6 to 8 seconds, give or take. It causes a surge of adrenaline. In which case making it useless, no matter what the intent is as far as temporarily disabling a person. Only making it more difficult to restrain the person at hand and pushing the potential risks of injuries through the roof for every person involved. Just in case you question this informatation look at the Military. Soldiers are not armed with tasers during peace time missions. Even with riots on the brink or other hostile situations that police officers encounter on a day to day basis. Hand to Hand Combat is used first to restrain the more aggressive persons involved. Then they adjust according to. First hint, the government doesn't employ the product it must mot efficient. Man up and get your shit straight. Focus on training and stop being lazy period. (2) Think about what was said earlier and think about things such as rollercosters or any other entertainment that causes an adrenaline rush. What is among the first things brought to attention besides being of age or size for the ride. (WARNING IF YOU HAVE HEART PROBLEMS DO NOT GET ON RIDE) or (WARNING IF YOU HAVE HEART PROBLEMS THIS RIDE IS NOT ADVISED). Just a thought for the slow people to think about when they think they want to voice their opinion on shit they know nothing about. Use commin since and life might be a bit easier. The use of taser’s are effective with proper use only. Their are 2 draw backs with the inproper use of the product.
(1) If the product is used for an extended period of time of 6 to 8 seconds, give or take. It causes a surge of adrenaline. In which case making it useless, no matter what the intent is as far as temporarily disabling a person. Only making it more difficult to restrain the person at hand and pushing the potential risks of injuries through the roof for every person involved. Just in case you question this informatation look at the Military. Soldiers are not armed with tasers during peace time missions. Even with riots on the brink or other hostile situations that police officers encounter on a day to day basis. Hand to Hand Combat is used first to restrain the more aggressive persons involved. Then they adjust according to. First hint, the government doesn’t employ the product it must mot efficient. Man up and get your shit straight. Focus on training and stop being lazy period.
(2) Think about what was said earlier and think about things such as rollercosters or any other entertainment that causes an adrenaline rush. What is among the first things brought to attention besides being of age or size for the ride. (WARNING IF YOU HAVE HEART PROBLEMS DO NOT GET ON RIDE) or (WARNING IF YOU HAVE HEART PROBLEMS THIS RIDE IS NOT ADVISED). Just a thought for the slow people to think about when they think they want to voice their opinion on shit they know nothing about. Use commin since and life might be a bit easier.

]]> By: Bill H http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-583278 Bill H Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:18:33 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-583278 Sorry we could not get back to you sooner but it was suggested that we not make any comment(s) until Anders went through and completed the "Coronado diversion" program without admisssion -- which he did. Now we are ready to re-contact the law firm that you suggested. Give me a call or email when you have time. Bill Sorry we could not get back to you sooner but it was suggested that we not make any comment(s) until Anders went through and completed the “Coronado diversion” program without admisssion — which he did. Now we are ready to re-contact the law firm that you suggested. Give me a call or email when you have time.

Bill

]]> By: Excited Delirium http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-563610 Excited Delirium Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:36:04 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-563610 Tasers, their use and misuse, is a fairly complicated topic. Not least because of the huge propaganda machine at work. It is quite simply impossible to discuss this issue in any meaningful way in a small comment box like this. All you'll get is endless arguments back and forth and they inevitably end up repeating in a circular manner. For that reason, I've created a weblog where I have sufficient space to carefully analyze the argument, lay-out the facts and figures, and so on. Assuming you have the time (several hours), please review my blog: Link= www.Excited-Delirium.com I'm sure that even the most rabid taser fan-boy will find something that they would have to admit makes them stop to think. If you like and agree with the blog, then please pass the link around. One person can't do this alone. Also, if you're capable, please take a back-up copy of my entire blog (www.Excited-Delirium.com) and post it up on-line elsewhere. I'd like to see some back-up copies scattered around. Tasers, their use and misuse, is a fairly complicated topic. Not least because of the huge propaganda machine at work. It is quite simply impossible to discuss this issue in any meaningful way in a small comment box like this. All you’ll get is endless arguments back and forth and they inevitably end up repeating in a circular manner. For that reason, I’ve created a weblog where I have sufficient space to carefully analyze the argument, lay-out the facts and figures, and so on.

Assuming you have the time (several hours), please review my blog:

Link= http://www.Excited-Delirium.com

I’m sure that even the most rabid taser fan-boy will find something that they would have to admit makes them stop to think.

If you like and agree with the blog, then please pass the link around. One person can’t do this alone. Also, if you’re capable, please take a back-up copy of my entire blog (www.Excited-Delirium.com) and post it up on-line elsewhere. I’d like to see some back-up copies scattered around.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-532083 Concerned Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:38:23 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-532083 For those interested, there is another website out there put up by a group in Chicago doing animal research on TASERS. This appears to be truly independent research. http://cookcountytrauma1.googlepages.com/home For those interested, there is another website out there put up by a group in Chicago doing animal research on TASERS. This appears to be truly independent research.

http://cookcountytrauma1.googlepages.com/home

]]> By: Random guy http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-530706 Random guy Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:10:42 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-530706 So...this basicly concludes with the fact that tazers corrupt the police. I think that we shoudn't allow them to use something they cannot master or demonstrate resonable justification for the use. So…this basicly concludes with the fact that tazers corrupt the police. I think that we shoudn’t allow them to use something they cannot master or demonstrate resonable justification for the use.

]]> By: Jean http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-530388 Jean Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:34:00 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-530388 Thanks for this article. It seems there are many here who wish to silent you too. The Taser's respondant Mark W. Kroll should verify his sources. His reply only shows contempt but not a single ounce of consideration for others opinion nor for the truth, and this is precisely what we could object to Taser. Recently a UN committee expressed concerns regarding the Taser saying that is looks like a torture gun. About Ruggieri's credentials, one should read the following article: yourlawyer.com/articles/read/11338 "Ruggieri said he left high school to attend college in New York. He later obtained a master's degree in computer science from the University of Phoenix. Ruggieri's resume shows that he is a professional engineer with licenses in five states. He said he has investigated electrical accidents for federal agencies and helped write electrical safety standards for top electrical laboratories and commissions. (His) study, published ... in the peer-reviewed Journal of the National Academy of Forensic Engineers, concluded that the shocks are powerful enough to cause fatal heart rhythms. It is one of the few scientific studies of Taser's electric jolt in which the company did not participate. Journal Editor Marvin Specter said the academy is affiliated with the National Society of Professional Engineers and is made up of experts in several engineering disciplines. The Journal lists a technical review committee for Ruggieri's study that includes 20 engineers, including one well-known Taser consultant. The reviewers' identities are confidential and have not been released, Specter said. Specter said Ruggieri's paper went through a rigorous peer-review process before being published in the biannual journal" Thanks for this article.

It seems there are many here who wish to silent you too. The Taser’s respondant Mark W. Kroll should verify his sources. His reply only shows contempt but not a single ounce of consideration for others opinion nor for the truth, and this is precisely what we could object to Taser.

Recently a UN committee expressed concerns regarding the Taser saying that is looks like a torture gun.

About Ruggieri’s credentials, one should read the following article:

yourlawyer.com/articles/read/11338

“Ruggieri said he left high school to attend college in New York. He later obtained a master’s degree in computer science from the University of Phoenix.

Ruggieri’s resume shows that he is a professional engineer with licenses in five states. He said he has investigated electrical accidents for federal agencies and helped write electrical safety standards for top electrical laboratories and commissions.

(His) study, published … in the peer-reviewed Journal of the National Academy of Forensic Engineers, concluded that the shocks are powerful enough to cause fatal heart rhythms. It is one of the few scientific studies of Taser’s electric jolt in which the company did not participate.

Journal Editor Marvin Specter said the academy is affiliated with the National Society of Professional Engineers and is made up of experts in several engineering disciplines.

The Journal lists a technical review committee for Ruggieri’s study that includes 20 engineers, including one well-known Taser consultant. The reviewers’ identities are confidential and have not been released, Specter said.

Specter said Ruggieri’s paper went through a rigorous peer-review process before being published in the biannual journal”

]]> By: Julia http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-525927 Julia Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:56:54 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-525927 I have information and some questions regarding the post about Coronado police department. Please contact me at (619) 233-1525. I have information and some questions regarding the post about Coronado police department. Please contact me at (619) 233-1525.

]]> By: HAE http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-525629 HAE Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:13:38 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-525629 We need to talk. I can answer your questions. We live in Coronado and we've been through the same nightmare. Email back to this same site and tell me where and when we can talk. I promise you I will be there and I have the answers you seek. We need to talk. I can answer your questions. We live in Coronado and we’ve been through the same nightmare. Email back to this same site and tell me where and when we can talk. I promise you I will be there and I have the answers you seek.

]]> By: BillH http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-502340 BillH Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:57:39 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-502340 Came upon these postings when trying to do some research in regard to a Taser being used on a minor (one day after his 16th B-day). We live in Coronado, CA, a island off San Diego that is generally known for its resort / Mayberry-type setting. Our son along with another buddy and two girls (all minors) were walking down the "main street" toward the waterfront when confronted by three-to-four recently returned sailors who made leud and crude remarkes to the girls as the group passed. My son decides to verbally intervene by challenging the sailors as to why they were making such statments to 16 year old girls. From what was explained to me by the kids and a police officer was that our son caught their (police) attention because of the wailing animated arm movements. Anyway, the police did a u-turn, the sailors went back into the bar, and my son and his buddy were corraled by the police and detained for questioning. The police officer actually handcuffed our son and had the two kids sitting on the curb when my son -- being scared to death and having never been in any trouble (striaght As), decides to run. When attempting to run he slips and falls on wet grass, one of the officers trys to grab him and blocks his way, my son runs into the officer then trys to run further when the officer tasered him. Our son sustained a knot to the back of his head (3/4" protrusion), a gapping wound to the chin requiring sutures, scraps over both arms, hands, and legs, along withnthree loose teeth and bruising on both knee regions -- all due to their strong-arm approach and tasering. The police brought him to the hospital and called us to pick him up from there. At the hospital we requested that staff photograph every wound and perform a CAT scan on his head to detect any possibleorganic injuries (none detected). After all this writing, my question to anyone who is familiar with these things, are the police in anyway, shgape, or form, right in what they did to our son? By the way, when I got to the ER and asked the officer why he felt compelled to shoot our son, his immediate response was: "Sir , excuse me, we did not shoot your son, we tasered him." I responded: "That truly is a load of crap, you used a taser gun on our son, he was shot. . ." Came upon these postings when trying to do some research in regard to a Taser being used on a minor (one day after his 16th B-day). We live in Coronado, CA, a island off San Diego that is generally known for its resort / Mayberry-type setting. Our son along with another buddy and two girls (all minors) were walking down the “main street” toward the waterfront when confronted by three-to-four recently returned sailors who made leud and crude remarkes to the girls as the group passed. My son decides to verbally intervene by challenging the sailors as to why they were making such statments to 16 year old girls. From what was explained to me by the kids and a police officer was that our son caught their (police) attention because of the wailing animated arm movements. Anyway, the police did a u-turn, the sailors went back into the bar, and my son and his buddy were corraled by the police and detained for questioning. The police officer actually handcuffed our son and had the two kids sitting on the curb when my son — being scared to death and having never been in any trouble (striaght As), decides to run. When attempting to run he slips and falls on wet grass, one of the officers trys to grab him and blocks his way, my son runs into the officer then trys to run further when the officer tasered him. Our son sustained a knot to the back of his head (3/4″ protrusion), a gapping wound to the chin requiring sutures, scraps over both arms, hands, and legs, along withnthree loose teeth and bruising on both knee regions — all due to their strong-arm approach and tasering. The police brought him to the hospital and called us to pick him up from there. At the hospital we requested that staff photograph every wound and perform a CAT scan on his head to detect any possibleorganic injuries (none detected). After all this writing, my question to anyone who is familiar with these things, are the police in anyway, shgape, or form, right in what they did to our son? By the way, when I got to the ER and asked the officer why he felt compelled to shoot our son, his immediate response was: “Sir , excuse me, we did not shoot your son, we tasered him.” I responded: “That truly is a load of crap, you used a taser gun on our son, he was shot. . .”

]]> By: Marjorie http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-480102 Marjorie Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:07:54 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-480102 Regarding Canadian's March 20th posting of Taser-related in-custody deaths, I have the name and age for number 249 on your list: David Mendoza, age 42. I obtained this information by writing to the West Covina Police Department and politely requesting it. (I would be pleased to see an update to your list of these deaths, so I can cross-check it with my own list.) By the way, I have recently become aware of an in-custody death in the USA that is associated with a "stun gun" that is NOT a Taser! So it appears that the only reason the Taser is overwhelmingly associated with such deaths is because of its VERY high penetration of the law enforcement market, NOT because it possesses unique characteristics. In other words, it appears that "stun guns" of ALL kinds pose a risk of death. Lynn, you are probably wondering what I have done regarding the death of Keith Eugene Kallstrom. The answer is "nothing yet" for two reasons: The next thing I need to do is order copies of the law enforcement reports on him, which will cost me money, and I simply can't afford to continue paying for copies of these law enforcement reports out of my own pocket any longer. I need to find a sponsor or funding source that will cover this cost. The other reason I haven't proceeded is that I have been kept extremely busy, and so haven't had time to do much. This is why I have focussed on reviewing and organizing the information I do have, and trying to fill in gaps (like getting the names of "unknown" people). - Marjorie Regarding Canadian’s March 20th posting of Taser-related in-custody deaths, I have the name and age for number 249 on your list: David Mendoza, age 42. I obtained this information by writing to the West Covina Police Department and politely requesting it. (I would be pleased to see an update to your list of these deaths, so I can cross-check it with my own list.)

By the way, I have recently become aware of an in-custody death in the USA that is associated with a “stun gun” that is NOT a Taser! So it appears that the only reason the Taser is overwhelmingly associated with such deaths is because of its VERY high penetration of the law enforcement market, NOT because it possesses unique characteristics. In other words, it appears that “stun guns” of ALL kinds pose a risk of death.

Lynn, you are probably wondering what I have done regarding the death of Keith Eugene Kallstrom. The answer is “nothing yet” for two reasons: The next thing I need to do is order copies of the law enforcement reports on him, which will cost me money, and I simply can’t afford to continue paying for copies of these law enforcement reports out of my own pocket any longer. I need to find a sponsor or funding source that will cover this cost. The other reason I haven’t proceeded is that I have been kept extremely busy, and so haven’t had time to do much.

This is why I have focussed on reviewing and organizing the information I do have, and trying to fill in gaps (like getting the names of “unknown” people). - Marjorie

]]> By: Taser Victim http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-477905 Taser Victim Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:06:02 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-477905 I've read alot of these comments. All the people make good arrguments right or wrong, on the the issue of gun or tazed. Ok I just got out of court for a long and irritating process. To make it straight and to the point. I walked out of a bar having only one drink. I see bouncers having complete control of someone who apparently was escorted out of the building. I walked by them on my way to my truck. Suddenly a bottle is whipped passed my head. I turned around and a bouncer told me, "We have the situation under control." I replied, " Then why did I almost get hit with a bottle." He said," Sorry just leave and we'll take care of it." Well next thing the bouncer and I were both grabbed by people who had not annouced themselfs to who they were. I got slammed from behind into a suv face first, they were grabbing my arms very forcefully. I wasn't sure why, but I went into protect mode I guess you would call it. I did not know what was happening and did not know why. So I held my hands and arms to my side while i was being hollered at and being forcefully grabbed. What happened next was rediculous! I got turned to my side and instantly tazered! I felt like I got shot at first, but as I felt burning and electrical currents flowing through my chest. I figured I just been tazered. I fell to the ground shaking, sreaming at the top of my lungs, and flopping like a fish out the water. I looked up and seen someone yelling for me to lay on my stomach. I could barely make out the words and very rattled. Wires where hanging out of my chest, so i didn't want to lay completely on my stomach. So I rolled to my side and got tazered again, as if the first time wasn't bad enough. This time I was completely limp and to be real about the situation almost crapped myself and started losing consciousness. Then I was being cuffed and arrested. Talk about a goodnight huh. Well I'm thinking I'm going to be let go and nope I was wrong. They brought me to jail and I had to get out of jail on bond for Five hundred dollars. Because they charged me with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Talk about BS. So for the last six months I've been going to court and finnally I just had jury trial because there was no way I was pleading to being guilty. For first of all being victimised and then being charged as a criminal. Well PEOPLE I was found NOT GUILTY! No surprise to me, but I was nervous as hell because they tried to put me in jail for this and I got a business to run and a life to live. The state was tring his hardess to make out to be the worst person in the world and the cops to be the most innocent perfect people. Now I'm in a pickle, what should I do? Just let this go? Forget it ever happened? Or go for a law suit? If I sue will I win? Is it worth it? And I don't want this to happened to someone else, so maybe those cops will think twice before they harass another person. If u want reply here or at sanders_toby2000@yahoo.com I’ve read alot of these comments. All the people make good arrguments right or wrong, on the the issue of gun or tazed. Ok I just got out of court for a long and irritating process. To make it straight and to the point. I walked out of a bar having only one drink. I see bouncers having complete control of someone who apparently was escorted out of the building.
I walked by them on my way to my truck. Suddenly a bottle is whipped passed my head. I turned around and a bouncer told me, “We have the situation under control.” I replied, ” Then why did I almost get hit with a bottle.” He said,” Sorry just leave and we’ll take care of it.”
Well next thing the bouncer and I were both grabbed by people who had not annouced themselfs to who they were. I got slammed from behind into a suv face first, they were grabbing my arms very forcefully. I wasn’t sure why, but I went into protect mode I guess you would call it. I did not know what was happening and did not know why. So I held my hands and arms to my side while i was being hollered at and being forcefully grabbed.
What happened next was rediculous! I got turned to my side and instantly tazered! I felt like I got shot at first, but as I felt burning and electrical currents flowing through my chest. I figured I just been tazered. I fell to the ground shaking, sreaming at the top of my lungs, and flopping like a fish out the water.
I looked up and seen someone yelling for me to lay on my stomach. I could barely make out the words and very rattled. Wires where hanging out of my chest, so i didn’t want to lay completely on my stomach. So I rolled to my side and got tazered again, as if the first time wasn’t bad enough. This time I was completely limp and to be real about the situation almost crapped myself and started losing consciousness.
Then I was being cuffed and arrested. Talk about a goodnight huh. Well I’m thinking I’m going to be let go and nope I was wrong. They brought me to jail and I had to get out of jail on bond for Five hundred dollars. Because they charged me with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Talk about BS.
So for the last six months I’ve been going to court and finnally I just had jury trial because there was no way I was pleading to being guilty. For first of all being victimised and then being charged as a criminal. Well PEOPLE I was found NOT GUILTY! No surprise to me, but I was nervous as hell because they tried to put me in jail for this and I got a business to run and a life to live. The state was tring his hardess to make out to be the worst person in the world and the cops to be the most innocent perfect people.
Now I’m in a pickle, what should I do? Just let this go? Forget it ever happened? Or go for a law suit? If I sue will I win? Is it worth it? And I don’t want this to happened to someone else, so maybe those cops will think twice before they harass another person.

If u want reply here or at sanders_toby2000@yahoo.com

]]> By: tender hearts home health care http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-367064 tender hearts home health care Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:22:42 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-367064 I can find many things that I look for here! Thank you very much! I can find many things that I look for here! Thank you very much!

]]> By: Anonymous Engineer http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-258218 Anonymous Engineer Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:53:01 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-258218 Ignoring the debate on the merits of Tasers for a moment, there is a serious flaw in the argument. Did Mark Kroll (Chief Technologist of St. Jude Medical Cardiac Rhythm Management) and apparently on the board of directors at Taser, seriously make this dismissive statement: "He also apparently solved the energy problem by getting 704 watts out of a TASER device powered by a 30 watt pack of 8 AA cells." If that is Mark's considered opinion, he is clearly incompetent to speak on the issue. It is TRIVIAL to get 704 watts out of a 30 watt pack of batteries. It doesn't break the laws of conservation of energy. 'Watts' is a measure of POWER, not ENERGY. A chief technologist working for Taser should be competent enough to know the difference. For example, you could charge a capacitor from the 30 watt pack of batteries for 12 seconds, then discharge the capacitor in half a second ... that would give you an output of 720 watts. (Ignoring inefficiencies - I'm pointing out the lack of logic here, not designing a circuit for them) I hope that this was only a momentarily lapse of competence on Taser's behalf. I hope. (PS: This comment is anonymous because it doesn't rely on my identity to give it value. Any competent engineer will confirm the details.) Ignoring the debate on the merits of Tasers for a moment, there is a serious flaw in the argument.

Did Mark Kroll (Chief Technologist of St. Jude Medical Cardiac Rhythm Management) and apparently on the board of directors at Taser, seriously make this dismissive statement:

“He also apparently solved the energy problem by getting 704 watts out
of a TASER device powered by a 30 watt pack of 8 AA cells.”

If that is Mark’s considered opinion, he is clearly incompetent to speak on the issue.

It is TRIVIAL to get 704 watts out of a 30 watt pack of batteries. It doesn’t break the laws of conservation of energy. ‘Watts’ is a measure of POWER, not ENERGY. A chief technologist working for Taser should be competent enough to know the difference.

For example, you could charge a capacitor from the 30 watt pack of batteries for 12 seconds, then discharge the capacitor in half a second … that would give you an output of 720 watts. (Ignoring inefficiencies - I’m pointing out the lack of logic here, not designing a circuit for them)

I hope that this was only a momentarily lapse of competence on Taser’s behalf.

I hope.

(PS: This comment is anonymous because it doesn’t rely on my identity to give it value. Any competent engineer will confirm the details.)

]]> By: Lynn http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-251489 Lynn Sun, 10 Jun 2007 04:24:13 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-251489 His autopsy was performed at the facility that Milan uses and he was at the Oshelak Funeral Home which they denied they knew family was involved and they said that he had no marks on his body which wasn't true and Keith's body was detained at the morgue for days. We had a private autopsy in Oklahoma City which is pending results (they say) as he was flown down from Michagan with the US Marshall's help and they also assisted me in getting Keith's body here and enabled the family access to Keith without any help from Milan Federal Prison and the people there all the way up the Warden and the people (Melissa) who did all they could to prevent us from obtaining his body. Mrs. Oshelak who owned the funeral home was unbelieveably rude and uncooperative and her assistant told us there was nothing or anything on Keith's body to be concerned about and then they made a huge mistake when they knew they were sposed to fly Keith's body to Oklahoma City first and not to Tulsa. I can get you more detailed information about this but Keith's body had marks all over it from head to toe and the laser marks were very apparent when he was brought here and that was alot of days after. His attorney was Mr. Chambers and he knows alot about the case and Keith's "beatings and tazerings" and he said he would do all he can to help us with this. Apparently, the state of Michigan is needing some court ordered medical record release from next of kin and that's why we don't have the results of the private autopsy from OKC but this doesn't make any sense to us as it's been since January '07 and he passed according to them on 1/17/07. The autopsy up there said he died of a "mild heart attack" and that's what the Sheriff said happened to him in a newspaper report. He was tazered and beaten and we have records of this. Something is amis here. They didn't want us to have the body to get a second autopsy and that is very apparent. But we do and we are still waiting for the results. I'm just his sister, and his mother got her son's body back in the state of OK (dead) on her 78th birthday and we are still waiting for justice and answers/ I appreciate all you can do for this family. Please let me know because we love Keith and he is in a better place and he deserves to know and so do we...whatever the answer is we are prepared to know....thank you for all of your assistance to us. What is the very specific procedure? According to this autopsy doctor, they have found the silver bullet but we all are holding our breath and it's been a very long time to know what that is. Bay City County Jail is where the tazers occurred repeatedly and we have the records of the incidents according to them. Keith was detained there longer than necessary for reasons that Gerald Ford died and US Marshalls were needed for that time and also that the Prosecutor got ill and that detained him longer and there were many occurances of tazers used on Keith and those are in our possession. There is a man named James Wickstrom and also Keith's ex wife Kathy Kallstrom who we know were aware of this as Keith had gone up there to get Kathy back and he did end up in prison over this. They are down here...Kathy for sure, in Tulsa, OK now and that is also another issue. Yours truly, Lynn His autopsy was performed at the facility that Milan uses and he was at the Oshelak Funeral Home which they denied they knew family was involved and they said that he had no marks on his body which wasn’t true and Keith’s body was detained at the morgue for days. We had a private autopsy in Oklahoma City which is pending results (they say) as he was flown down from Michagan with the US Marshall’s help and they also assisted me in getting Keith’s body here and enabled the family access to Keith without any help from Milan Federal Prison and the people there all the way up the Warden and the people (Melissa) who did all they could to prevent us from obtaining his body. Mrs. Oshelak who owned the funeral home was unbelieveably rude and uncooperative and her assistant told us there was nothing or anything on Keith’s body to be concerned about and then they made a huge mistake when they knew they were sposed to fly Keith’s body to Oklahoma City first and not to Tulsa. I can get you more detailed information about this but Keith’s body had marks all over it from head to toe and the laser marks were very apparent when he was brought here and that was alot of days after. His attorney was Mr. Chambers and he knows alot about the case and Keith’s “beatings and tazerings” and he said he would do all he can to help us with this. Apparently, the state of Michigan is needing some court ordered medical record release from next of kin and that’s why we don’t have the results of the private autopsy from OKC but this doesn’t make any sense to us as it’s been since January ‘07 and he passed according to them on 1/17/07. The autopsy up there said he died of a “mild heart attack” and that’s what the Sheriff said happened to him in a newspaper report. He was tazered and beaten and we have records of this. Something is amis here. They didn’t want us to have the body to get a second autopsy and that is very apparent. But we do and we are still waiting for the results. I’m just his sister, and his mother got her son’s body back in the state of OK (dead) on her 78th birthday and we are still waiting for justice and answers/ I appreciate all you can do for this family. Please let me know because we love Keith and he is in a better place and he deserves to know and so do we…whatever the answer is we are prepared to know….thank you for all of your assistance to us. What is the very specific procedure? According to this autopsy doctor, they have found the silver bullet but we all are holding our breath and it’s been a very long time to know what that is. Bay City County Jail is where the tazers occurred repeatedly and we have the records of the incidents according to them. Keith was detained there longer than necessary for reasons that Gerald Ford died and US Marshalls were needed for that time and also that the Prosecutor got ill and that detained him longer and there were many occurances of tazers used on Keith and those are in our possession. There is a man named James Wickstrom and also Keith’s ex wife Kathy Kallstrom who we know were aware of this as Keith had gone up there to get Kathy back and he did end up in prison over this. They are down here…Kathy for sure, in Tulsa, OK now and that is also another issue. Yours truly, Lynn

]]> By: Lynn http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-251485 Lynn Sun, 10 Jun 2007 04:18:22 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-251485 His autopsy was performed at the facility that Milan uses and he was at the Oshelak Funeral Home which they denied they knew family was involved and they said that he had no marks on his body which wasn't true and Keith's body was detained at the morgue for days. We had a private autopsy in Oklahoma City which is pending results (they say) as he was flown down from Michagan with the US Marshall's help and they also assisted me in getting Keith's body here and enabled the family access to Keith without any help from Milan Federal Prison and the people there all the way up the Warden and the people (Melissa) who did all they could to prevent us from obtaining his body. Mrs. Oshelak who owned the funeral home was unbelieveably rude and uncooperative and her assistant told us there was nothing or anything on Keith's body to be concerned about and then they made a huge mistake when they knew they were sposed to fly Keith's body to Oklahoma City first and not to Tulsa. I can get you more detailed information about this but Keith's body had marks all over it from head to toe and the laser marks were very apparent when he was brought here and that was alot of days after. His attorney was Mr. Chambers and he knows alot about the case and Keith's "beatings and tazerings" and he said he would do all he can to help us with this. Apparently, the state of Michigan is needing some court ordered medical record release from next of kin and that's why we don't have the results of the private autopsy from OKC but this doesn't make any sense to us as it's been since January '07 and he passed according to them on 1/17/07. The autopsy up there said he died of a "mild heart attack" and that's what the Sheriff said happened to him in a newspaper report. He was tazered and beaten and we have records of this. Something is amis here. They didn't want us to have the body to get a second autopsy and that is very apparent. But we do and we are still waiting for the results. I'm just his sister, and his mother got her son's body back in the state of OK (dead) on her 78th birthday and we are still waiting for justice and answers/ I appreciate all you can do for this family. Please let me know because we love Keith and he is in a better place and he deserves to know and so do we...whatever the answer is we are prepared to know....thank you for all of your assistance to us. What is the very specific procedure? According to this autopsy doctor, they have found the silver bullet but we all are holding our breath and it's been a very long time to know what that is. Yours truly, Lynn His autopsy was performed at the facility that Milan uses and he was at the Oshelak Funeral Home which they denied they knew family was involved and they said that he had no marks on his body which wasn’t true and Keith’s body was detained at the morgue for days. We had a private autopsy in Oklahoma City which is pending results (they say) as he was flown down from Michagan with the US Marshall’s help and they also assisted me in getting Keith’s body here and enabled the family access to Keith without any help from Milan Federal Prison and the people there all the way up the Warden and the people (Melissa) who did all they could to prevent us from obtaining his body. Mrs. Oshelak who owned the funeral home was unbelieveably rude and uncooperative and her assistant told us there was nothing or anything on Keith’s body to be concerned about and then they made a huge mistake when they knew they were sposed to fly Keith’s body to Oklahoma City first and not to Tulsa. I can get you more detailed information about this but Keith’s body had marks all over it from head to toe and the laser marks were very apparent when he was brought here and that was alot of days after. His attorney was Mr. Chambers and he knows alot about the case and Keith’s “beatings and tazerings” and he said he would do all he can to help us with this. Apparently, the state of Michigan is needing some court ordered medical record release from next of kin and that’s why we don’t have the results of the private autopsy from OKC but this doesn’t make any sense to us as it’s been since January ‘07 and he passed according to them on 1/17/07. The autopsy up there said he died of a “mild heart attack” and that’s what the Sheriff said happened to him in a newspaper report. He was tazered and beaten and we have records of this. Something is amis here. They didn’t want us to have the body to get a second autopsy and that is very apparent. But we do and we are still waiting for the results. I’m just his sister, and his mother got her son’s body back in the state of OK (dead) on her 78th birthday and we are still waiting for justice and answers/ I appreciate all you can do for this family. Please let me know because we love Keith and he is in a better place and he deserves to know and so do we…whatever the answer is we are prepared to know….thank you for all of your assistance to us. What is the very specific procedure? According to this autopsy doctor, they have found the silver bullet but we all are holding our breath and it’s been a very long time to know what that is. Yours truly, Lynn

]]> By: Marjorie http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-245955 Marjorie Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:20:08 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-245955 Thanks to those who provided a birth date for Keith Kallstrom. With that information, I may be able to get a copy of his autopsy report when it is released. Lynn, do you know which agency is doing the autopsy? Milan occupies two counties, and if you know which one did the autopsy, it would save me the cost and time of trying to find out which one I should be talking to. I am glad that your family was able to get Keith's body back, but I think a mistake was made in not having a careful medical examination of it made before he was buried. (I have a very specific procedure in mind.) However, autopsy records are usually accurate with respect to the factual details, even when the cause of death decision hs political overtones. So the autopsy is an important record worth having. Thanks to those who provided a birth date for Keith Kallstrom. With that information, I may be able to get a copy of his autopsy report when it is released. Lynn, do you know which agency is doing the autopsy? Milan occupies two counties, and if you know which one did the autopsy, it would save me the cost and time of trying to find out which one I should be talking to. I am glad that your family was able to get Keith’s body back, but I think a mistake was made in not having a careful medical examination of it made before he was buried. (I have a very specific procedure in mind.) However, autopsy records are usually accurate with respect to the factual details, even when the cause of death decision hs political overtones. So the autopsy is an important record worth having.

]]> By: Ronald http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-244414 Ronald Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:18:04 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/03/07/a-crunchgear-investigation-the-trouble-with-tasers-what-the-manufacturer-doesnt-want-you-to-know/#comment-244414 "Marjorie" Keith Kallstrom was born October 30,1949. It's reported that he died from a mild heart attack, but a second autopsy was done due to the circumtances that take place during his trial. I believe he died becuase of him being tasered. “Marjorie” Keith Kallstrom was born October 30,1949. It’s reported that he died from a mild heart attack, but a second autopsy was done due to the circumtances that take place during his trial. I believe he died becuase of him being tasered.

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