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	<title>Comments on: EDGE Network Could Cost Apple Tens of Customers</title>
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		<title>By: bpm2000</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/edge-network-could-cost-apple-tens-of-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-296799</link>
		<dc:creator>bpm2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theoretical maximum doesnt mean anything.  whens the last time youve seen say... your comcast cable internet come to the &quot;max speed&quot;?  (and even if you had, that doesnt matter either - AT&amp;Ts EDGE never was that fast.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theoretical maximum doesnt mean anything.  whens the last time youve seen say&#8230; your comcast cable internet come to the &#8220;max speed&#8221;?  (and even if you had, that doesnt matter either &#8211; AT&amp;Ts EDGE never was that fast.)</p>
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		<title>By: ShadowIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShadowIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Wikipedia, EDGE has a theoretical maximum bandwidth of 473.6 kbit/s.  That&#039;s nowhere near EvDO (which I currently have on my Treo 700p that I hate with a burning passion), but it&#039;s far faster than dial-up, and should be acceptable for web browsing.  I keep hearing people saying they&#039;re getting much lower speeds on EDGE (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia, EDGE has a theoretical maximum bandwidth of 473.6 kbit/s.  That&#8217;s nowhere near EvDO (which I currently have on my Treo 700p that I hate with a burning passion), but it&#8217;s far faster than dial-up, and should be acceptable for web browsing.  I keep hearing people saying they&#8217;re getting much lower speeds on EDGE (</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky Cadden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky Cadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was a wise decision. Let&#039;s face it, as commented above, Apple went with AT&amp;T based on $$. (Frankly, it was really only between Verizon and AT&amp;T, in my opinion). That left the option of either 3G (HSDPA/UMTS) or EDGE. EDGE was the smarter choice. Why?

Because AT&amp;T doesn&#039;t have nationwide 3G. Thus, either they would have to geographically limit availability (not good) or they would have people who live in an EDGE area buying the 3G iPhone, and having an inferior experience. And we know how Jobs feels about inferior experiences with his products. 

Personally, I don&#039;t think the EDGE network is all that slow. They&#039;ve been sprucing it up (I think it was called Operation Fine Edge) and I can tell, using a Nokia N95, I&#039;ve seen data transfer speeds increase lately. 

Plus, I don&#039;t think the iPhone is all that data-intensive. I average 500MB/month on my phone currently, and that&#039;s downloading music/podcasts, streaming video, checking Gmail obsessively, and surfing the net in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was a wise decision. Let&#8217;s face it, as commented above, Apple went with AT&amp;T based on $$. (Frankly, it was really only between Verizon and AT&amp;T, in my opinion). That left the option of either 3G (HSDPA/UMTS) or EDGE. EDGE was the smarter choice. Why?</p>
<p>Because AT&amp;T doesn&#8217;t have nationwide 3G. Thus, either they would have to geographically limit availability (not good) or they would have people who live in an EDGE area buying the 3G iPhone, and having an inferior experience. And we know how Jobs feels about inferior experiences with his products. </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t think the EDGE network is all that slow. They&#8217;ve been sprucing it up (I think it was called Operation Fine Edge) and I can tell, using a Nokia N95, I&#8217;ve seen data transfer speeds increase lately. </p>
<p>Plus, I don&#8217;t think the iPhone is all that data-intensive. I average 500MB/month on my phone currently, and that&#8217;s downloading music/podcasts, streaming video, checking Gmail obsessively, and surfing the net in general.</p>
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		<title>By: lolick</title>
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		<dc:creator>lolick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people with crackberries look like total nerds.  holding a computer to your face to talk.  or slung on your belt like a high school nerd.

Technology is great, but that&#039;s not the way to go.  Apple integrated a much better looking package with more consumer content and consumer value.  I see plenty of people wanting version 1.0 before Apple differentiates their product into different functionalities and price points.

The free marketing will greatly aid in people trying new MACs too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people with crackberries look like total nerds.  holding a computer to your face to talk.  or slung on your belt like a high school nerd.</p>
<p>Technology is great, but that&#8217;s not the way to go.  Apple integrated a much better looking package with more consumer content and consumer value.  I see plenty of people wanting version 1.0 before Apple differentiates their product into different functionalities and price points.</p>
<p>The free marketing will greatly aid in people trying new MACs too.</p>
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		<title>By: bpm2000</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/edge-network-could-cost-apple-tens-of-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-296402</link>
		<dc:creator>bpm2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a previous user of AT&amp;T/Cingular&#039;s ridiculously slow EDGE network (now on Helio/Sprint), it is NOT sufficient for web browsing for anyone with a modern attention span (hehe).  Its just too damn slow.  

After browsing on 3G I&#039;ll never go back to EDGE, latency be damned.

After watching the iPhone walk-through, I must admit I am very excited about the iPhone... in the next revision.  Buy, buy, buy, early adopters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a previous user of AT&amp;T/Cingular&#8217;s ridiculously slow EDGE network (now on Helio/Sprint), it is NOT sufficient for web browsing for anyone with a modern attention span (hehe).  Its just too damn slow.  </p>
<p>After browsing on 3G I&#8217;ll never go back to EDGE, latency be damned.</p>
<p>After watching the iPhone walk-through, I must admit I am very excited about the iPhone&#8230; in the next revision.  Buy, buy, buy, early adopters!</p>
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		<title>By: musicmixingguru</title>
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		<dc:creator>musicmixingguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its about the money. its always about the money, not even Jobs can escape the hold of the beast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its about the money. its always about the money, not even Jobs can escape the hold of the beast.</p>
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