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		<title>By: The Source...</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Source...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just going to say... It sounds to me like he didn&#039;t quite make the cut.

Audatex, formerly ADP, if you do the research is rated #1 in their industry and has been awarded numerous world class support awards.  Simple Google facts would persuade me to discredit this story.

If a company has two French speaking reps, is it honestly that difficult to understand why that company would not want both employees to be occupied at the same time?  I can hardly immagine french speaking technical support reps are in abundance in Michigan of all places.

Another comment, battery is indeed spelt with two &quot;T&quot;s, not 3, not 4.  Extreme, perhaps, but consider this... If a company is holding you accountable to that degree, there is likely a reason for it.  Perhaps a job requiring less attention to detail is in order... burgers perhaps.  Good luck at any rate, the Michigan unemployment rate is horrible, hopefully you&#039;re not still looking or trying to collect unemployment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just going to say&#8230; It sounds to me like he didn&#8217;t quite make the cut.</p>
<p>Audatex, formerly ADP, if you do the research is rated #1 in their industry and has been awarded numerous world class support awards.  Simple Google facts would persuade me to discredit this story.</p>
<p>If a company has two French speaking reps, is it honestly that difficult to understand why that company would not want both employees to be occupied at the same time?  I can hardly immagine french speaking technical support reps are in abundance in Michigan of all places.</p>
<p>Another comment, battery is indeed spelt with two &#8220;T&#8221;s, not 3, not 4.  Extreme, perhaps, but consider this&#8230; If a company is holding you accountable to that degree, there is likely a reason for it.  Perhaps a job requiring less attention to detail is in order&#8230; burgers perhaps.  Good luck at any rate, the Michigan unemployment rate is horrible, hopefully you&#8217;re not still looking or trying to collect unemployment.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in an out sourced call center for a large medical center.  We are &quot;customer service&quot;  who are to  help you with your medical billing questions and complaints.  Many just want to know how much they owe and if we are billing the correct insurance.  Most calls are because their accounts are in need of a lot of work.  Examples are :we haven&#039;t entered their new insurance or fixed the existing info,  or to make sure charges are being redirected to  the correct insurance after sending it to two or three wrong insurances.   The diagnosis may need changed by a coder so paper requests have to be filled out, tracked and then the charge re sent to the insurance co.  
 I have 5 minutes on the phone with you and under 2 minutes after you hang up to do all this work.  I have to get back on the phone for the next incoming call so I meet my required 65 calls a day.   No, your medical billing does not get taken care of, it ends up going to a collection agency and many times without any warning to you.  When you call back we promise the situation will be taken care of the next time we are given off phone time.  But &quot;off phone&quot;  time has been taken away from us because the number of calls coming in is too high.  This despite a representative from our client telling us we are to stay off the phone and make sure that second complaint is taken care of.  Hours after she was out the door we were told to disregard that part of her talk.  I am writing this on a blog that deals with computer tech calls because I have not yet found the appropriate place to let the public know what is really going on in medical billing.  My own blog may need to be started.  Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in an out sourced call center for a large medical center.  We are &#8220;customer service&#8221;  who are to  help you with your medical billing questions and complaints.  Many just want to know how much they owe and if we are billing the correct insurance.  Most calls are because their accounts are in need of a lot of work.  Examples are :we haven&#8217;t entered their new insurance or fixed the existing info,  or to make sure charges are being redirected to  the correct insurance after sending it to two or three wrong insurances.   The diagnosis may need changed by a coder so paper requests have to be filled out, tracked and then the charge re sent to the insurance co.<br />
 I have 5 minutes on the phone with you and under 2 minutes after you hang up to do all this work.  I have to get back on the phone for the next incoming call so I meet my required 65 calls a day.   No, your medical billing does not get taken care of, it ends up going to a collection agency and many times without any warning to you.  When you call back we promise the situation will be taken care of the next time we are given off phone time.  But &#8220;off phone&#8221;  time has been taken away from us because the number of calls coming in is too high.  This despite a representative from our client telling us we are to stay off the phone and make sure that second complaint is taken care of.  Hours after she was out the door we were told to disregard that part of her talk.  I am writing this on a blog that deals with computer tech calls because I have not yet found the appropriate place to let the public know what is really going on in medical billing.  My own blog may need to be started.  Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a call center for a very large company in California that provides electricity. No names mentioned, but I cannot believe how ridiculous the call center atmosphere is. It is definitely a modern day sweat shop. The call center is a complete joke! It is full of uneducated employees and managers who are some of the most unprofessional people I have ever dealt with. I have a college degree and fell into bad times with the economy, so I had to bite the bullet and take a call center job. After less than a year I want to hang myself every time I leave work. I actually have to put up with verbal abuse from customers, who call us stupid, dumb, etc. I was even called a bitch and couldn&#039;t say anything back! The managers don&#039;t care, and are just plain lazy all around. In our center we have to meet an average call handle time, meaning I have to get the customer off the phone as soon as I can. A 2 minute call is ideal in my call center. Some problems you just can&#039;t resolve in 2 minutes.. They do not want us to &quot;help&quot; or provide customer service, we are just slaves who must take over 100 calls a day! On a typical day one call drops in right after the other, giving us no time to even have a snack (unless on our specified breaks), unless we go on &quot;unavailable&quot; which we are immediately told not to do as soon as we do it. The lower our call time, the more we are praised. On the other hand if we are just one minute late in the morning, or a minute late from break, we are reprimanded like little children.  God forbid something happens on the way to work b/c you are pretty much shit out of luck! We also have to meet a scheduled adherence which prevents us from getting a raise if we don&#039;t meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a call center for a very large company in California that provides electricity. No names mentioned, but I cannot believe how ridiculous the call center atmosphere is. It is definitely a modern day sweat shop. The call center is a complete joke! It is full of uneducated employees and managers who are some of the most unprofessional people I have ever dealt with. I have a college degree and fell into bad times with the economy, so I had to bite the bullet and take a call center job. After less than a year I want to hang myself every time I leave work. I actually have to put up with verbal abuse from customers, who call us stupid, dumb, etc. I was even called a bitch and couldn&#8217;t say anything back! The managers don&#8217;t care, and are just plain lazy all around. In our center we have to meet an average call handle time, meaning I have to get the customer off the phone as soon as I can. A 2 minute call is ideal in my call center. Some problems you just can&#8217;t resolve in 2 minutes.. They do not want us to &#8220;help&#8221; or provide customer service, we are just slaves who must take over 100 calls a day! On a typical day one call drops in right after the other, giving us no time to even have a snack (unless on our specified breaks), unless we go on &#8220;unavailable&#8221; which we are immediately told not to do as soon as we do it. The lower our call time, the more we are praised. On the other hand if we are just one minute late in the morning, or a minute late from break, we are reprimanded like little children.  God forbid something happens on the way to work b/c you are pretty much shit out of luck! We also have to meet a scheduled adherence which prevents us from getting a raise if we don&#8217;t meet.</p>
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		<title>By: lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moral of the story...... never work at a call center, they are the modern day sweatshop and thrive of low educated people who need the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moral of the story&#8230;&#8230; never work at a call center, they are the modern day sweatshop and thrive of low educated people who need the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Disgruntled ex-ISP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disgruntled ex-ISP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for Stream International in Chilliwack, British Columbia for eight months, doing support for MSN TV, a useless and antiquated product that should have been discontinued long ago. Out of the box, the units were faulty and would not connect, though instead, we would perpetually have to give customers the runaround, telling them that it may be the flourenscent light bulbs in their home that is causing the problem. 

Bad product aside, it was the ethics of the call center that really provoked disdain. Everything that the main article here suggests was manifested at Stream, as though there is a single Bible for which all call centers model their ethics, standards and operating practices. I could reitterate what the main article outlines with my own identical experiences, but I will save the redundancy and tell of my own unique horrors.

Stream&#039;s MSNTV contract went through a slash and burn stage, where they fired half of the staff on the contract for every and any reason under the sun. Unfourtunately, they miscalculated how many staff were actually needed to meet the call volume, and found that the employees who were left were not only in over their head in queue hell, but the service level was not being met. Instead of hiring new ISP&#039;s to meet to demand, they instead decided to be creative in their way of lowering morale (yet again). They implemented weekly, mandatory overtime to each of their employees. For instance, you would complete and 8 hour shift in a day, and then they would send you home for two hours, and then expect you to return later on that night for perhaps and hour or two. The extra money made did not even compensate many people&#039;s fuel expenses for driving there, home, and then back to work and home again. It was truly cruel and unusual punishment, and completely void of any consideration for the employees well-being or humanity. 

My favourite, however, was being forced to lie to the clientel (all of whom were American, as the MSN TV is not sold outside of the US) as to our location, and nationality. When a caller asked us for our location, we were told to tell them that we were located in Seattle, Washington..In reality, as stated earlier, we were located in Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada. Even though outsourcing is an important and contentious issue to Americans (and, to an extent, every country), the fact of the matter is that the jobs have already been outsourced, so why pretend? Im sure any American would rather get a Canadian on the phone than someone in a far away call center, located in Timbuk Tu . Instead, I made a point of telling every one who asked where we were located that, in fact, we are located in British Columbia, Canada...Most were receptive and interested to be talking to a Canadian.

Lastly, the garnish on my heavenly call center employment experience, was my unceremonious dismissal, one day before I was set to leave. Allow me to explain. I had put myself through 8 months of call center hell in order to save for a working holiday in Australia, and when I had reached my financial goal, I promptly handed in my two weeks notice. On what was supposed to be my second last day, at the END of my shift, one of the TM&#039;s approached me, asked if I had signed off, and asked me to follow him. I entered a room with him, and another one of the TM&#039;s (who was a complete weasel, by the way). I quickly realized what was transpiring and said &quot;Oh, I know what&#039;s going on here...you guys are firing me&quot;. They said that that day, at &quot;exactly 1:16pm, you were observed as finishing a call not using the approved call script. You were heard saying &#039;Thanks for calling, have a great day&#039;, instead of &#039;thanks for calling MSN TV, have a good day&#039;.  You were then observed at 1:56 pm as taking a 16 minute break. Breaks are to be 15 minutes in length, as outlined in the employee handbook&quot;. Do you see what happened there? Notice the TIMES of the &quot;offences&quot;. It&#039;s plain to see that they had premeditated a firing, and looked for two imperfections in my performance, one after another, and fired me for it. They obviously either felt threatened that I was going to say or do something on my last day, or some other alterior motive.

This is the call center condition. It&#039;s masochistic to work in one, and as stated already, they will never change. They never cease to amaze at their ability to dehumanize and lower morale, as well as break one&#039;s spirit. I hope Stream Chilliwack burns to the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for Stream International in Chilliwack, British Columbia for eight months, doing support for MSN TV, a useless and antiquated product that should have been discontinued long ago. Out of the box, the units were faulty and would not connect, though instead, we would perpetually have to give customers the runaround, telling them that it may be the flourenscent light bulbs in their home that is causing the problem. </p>
<p>Bad product aside, it was the ethics of the call center that really provoked disdain. Everything that the main article here suggests was manifested at Stream, as though there is a single Bible for which all call centers model their ethics, standards and operating practices. I could reitterate what the main article outlines with my own identical experiences, but I will save the redundancy and tell of my own unique horrors.</p>
<p>Stream&#8217;s MSNTV contract went through a slash and burn stage, where they fired half of the staff on the contract for every and any reason under the sun. Unfourtunately, they miscalculated how many staff were actually needed to meet the call volume, and found that the employees who were left were not only in over their head in queue hell, but the service level was not being met. Instead of hiring new ISP&#8217;s to meet to demand, they instead decided to be creative in their way of lowering morale (yet again). They implemented weekly, mandatory overtime to each of their employees. For instance, you would complete and 8 hour shift in a day, and then they would send you home for two hours, and then expect you to return later on that night for perhaps and hour or two. The extra money made did not even compensate many people&#8217;s fuel expenses for driving there, home, and then back to work and home again. It was truly cruel and unusual punishment, and completely void of any consideration for the employees well-being or humanity. </p>
<p>My favourite, however, was being forced to lie to the clientel (all of whom were American, as the MSN TV is not sold outside of the US) as to our location, and nationality. When a caller asked us for our location, we were told to tell them that we were located in Seattle, Washington..In reality, as stated earlier, we were located in Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada. Even though outsourcing is an important and contentious issue to Americans (and, to an extent, every country), the fact of the matter is that the jobs have already been outsourced, so why pretend? Im sure any American would rather get a Canadian on the phone than someone in a far away call center, located in Timbuk Tu . Instead, I made a point of telling every one who asked where we were located that, in fact, we are located in British Columbia, Canada&#8230;Most were receptive and interested to be talking to a Canadian.</p>
<p>Lastly, the garnish on my heavenly call center employment experience, was my unceremonious dismissal, one day before I was set to leave. Allow me to explain. I had put myself through 8 months of call center hell in order to save for a working holiday in Australia, and when I had reached my financial goal, I promptly handed in my two weeks notice. On what was supposed to be my second last day, at the END of my shift, one of the TM&#8217;s approached me, asked if I had signed off, and asked me to follow him. I entered a room with him, and another one of the TM&#8217;s (who was a complete weasel, by the way). I quickly realized what was transpiring and said &#8220;Oh, I know what&#8217;s going on here&#8230;you guys are firing me&#8221;. They said that that day, at &#8220;exactly 1:16pm, you were observed as finishing a call not using the approved call script. You were heard saying &#8216;Thanks for calling, have a great day&#8217;, instead of &#8216;thanks for calling MSN TV, have a good day&#8217;.  You were then observed at 1:56 pm as taking a 16 minute break. Breaks are to be 15 minutes in length, as outlined in the employee handbook&#8221;. Do you see what happened there? Notice the TIMES of the &#8220;offences&#8221;. It&#8217;s plain to see that they had premeditated a firing, and looked for two imperfections in my performance, one after another, and fired me for it. They obviously either felt threatened that I was going to say or do something on my last day, or some other alterior motive.</p>
<p>This is the call center condition. It&#8217;s masochistic to work in one, and as stated already, they will never change. They never cease to amaze at their ability to dehumanize and lower morale, as well as break one&#8217;s spirit. I hope Stream Chilliwack burns to the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: LiNCOLN PARK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiNCOLN PARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you thought this comment was interesting, you will most certainly want to read my upcoming fiction novel entitled, HANDLE TiME. It was scheduled for mid April 2008 release; but I am runnung approx. 3 weeks behind. 

HANDLE TiME takes an unprecedented, literary look at the innerworkings of an American Call Center; through the eyes of a former call center employee. 

At about this time last year, an Indian book was relesed called, ONE NIGHT @ THE CALL CENTRE; which was poorly written and trashed American call center workers and customers pretty badly. Even so, it became the best selling book in all of India; and I understand that a movie is forthcoming. 

That being said, HANDLE TiME also serves as an American response to that Indian book; as well as the very first call center fiction novel and literary testament -- from an American employee&#039;s perspective.

If you are interested in reviewing the book,please send me an email.  I would be delighted to offer you a copy. The official email address for the book is 

handletimefan@yahoo.com 

We will also pojst the release of the book on the blog, http://handletime.ireporter.tv  and on my MY SPACE page: 

http://www.myspace.com/penmarric 

It will be available as a book; and as an ebook -- at the request of many call center employees who would prefer to read ebooks at their stations.

Thanks!

LiNCOLN PARK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you thought this comment was interesting, you will most certainly want to read my upcoming fiction novel entitled, HANDLE TiME. It was scheduled for mid April 2008 release; but I am runnung approx. 3 weeks behind. </p>
<p>HANDLE TiME takes an unprecedented, literary look at the innerworkings of an American Call Center; through the eyes of a former call center employee. </p>
<p>At about this time last year, an Indian book was relesed called, ONE NIGHT @ THE CALL CENTRE; which was poorly written and trashed American call center workers and customers pretty badly. Even so, it became the best selling book in all of India; and I understand that a movie is forthcoming. </p>
<p>That being said, HANDLE TiME also serves as an American response to that Indian book; as well as the very first call center fiction novel and literary testament &#8212; from an American employee&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>If you are interested in reviewing the book,please send me an email.  I would be delighted to offer you a copy. The official email address for the book is </p>
<p><a href="mailto:handletimefan@yahoo.com">handletimefan@yahoo.com</a> </p>
<p>We will also pojst the release of the book on the blog, <a href="http://handletime.ireporter.tv" rel="nofollow">http://handletime.ireporter.tv</a>  and on my MY SPACE page: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/penmarric" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/penmarric</a> </p>
<p>It will be available as a book; and as an ebook &#8212; at the request of many call center employees who would prefer to read ebooks at their stations.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>LiNCOLN PARK</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writer identifies some problems and issues with procedures and managements but misses the &quot;big picture&quot; when it comes to his role within the company.
For example, take the perception that spending an hour with a customer to solve their problem leads to a higher quality of service.  So what about the the other 6 people that are waiting in the que for you to finish your one hour call?  Do you think they consider waiting an hour or longer good customer service?  The point of a short call is to communicate to the client and understand the problem and remedy it if it can be remedied in the amount of time.  Most call centers have an escalation process for more difficult issues to resolve problems that may take longer.  The danger of saying that every call should be answered until it is remedied ignores the fact that it leaves other clients waiting and that almost no clients would ever pay any company the cost to support them for each hour.
I would agree that it sounds like management has some work to do, but employees need to look at their role in the company and their clients together....not just at the inconvenience to themselves (i.e. separate lunches).  If you ever run your own small company you will find lunches are a rare luxury and this is because you have to care about your business and clients first....because that is what pays you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writer identifies some problems and issues with procedures and managements but misses the &#8220;big picture&#8221; when it comes to his role within the company.<br />
For example, take the perception that spending an hour with a customer to solve their problem leads to a higher quality of service.  So what about the the other 6 people that are waiting in the que for you to finish your one hour call?  Do you think they consider waiting an hour or longer good customer service?  The point of a short call is to communicate to the client and understand the problem and remedy it if it can be remedied in the amount of time.  Most call centers have an escalation process for more difficult issues to resolve problems that may take longer.  The danger of saying that every call should be answered until it is remedied ignores the fact that it leaves other clients waiting and that almost no clients would ever pay any company the cost to support them for each hour.<br />
I would agree that it sounds like management has some work to do, but employees need to look at their role in the company and their clients together&#8230;.not just at the inconvenience to themselves (i.e. separate lunches).  If you ever run your own small company you will find lunches are a rare luxury and this is because you have to care about your business and clients first&#8230;.because that is what pays you.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very true points.  With all you have to say, you may want to check out www.callcentercomics.com to see how cartoons illustrate similar experiences in call centers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very true points.  With all you have to say, you may want to check out <a href="http://www.callcentercomics.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.callcentercomics.com</a> to see how cartoons illustrate similar experiences in call centers.</p>
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		<title>By: John Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think I would prefer life as an “associate” then that of a “phone rep”&quot;

I dunno.  One of the greatest stress releases in the world was hitting the mute button and swearing at your customer.

Not that I ever did that.

nope.

Never.  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think I would prefer life as an “associate” then that of a “phone rep”&#8221;</p>
<p>I dunno.  One of the greatest stress releases in the world was hitting the mute button and swearing at your customer.</p>
<p>Not that I ever did that.</p>
<p>nope.</p>
<p>Never.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one heck of a long comment.</description>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although this sounds bad, imagine how people in India and other third world countries are put through... where laws and regulations are not the top priority of the government with all the other problems they have. I think I would prefer life as an &quot;associate&quot; then that of a &quot;phone rep&quot; ;-)

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this sounds bad, imagine how people in India and other third world countries are put through&#8230; where laws and regulations are not the top priority of the government with all the other problems they have. I think I would prefer life as an &#8220;associate&#8221; then that of a &#8220;phone rep&#8221; ;-)</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: John Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way too much to comment on, but, there was one point in there I wanted to hit on...

Quantity vs. Quality

*that* is the call center problem, especially when you&#039;re an outsourced call center.  The call center gets paid by the call.  But the guarantee on that contract is that you do a good job at it.  Good leaders will recognize that customer satisfaction is the key, but good *managers* are the ones that make the company money.  

Even then, in today&#039;s big business model, the unquantifiable *always* suffers as a business grows because it is unquantifiable.  You can&#039;t really prove that you&#039;re doing good, no matter how much logic dictates that it is good.

But, on the other hand, consider a call center.  There are two options:  Answer more calls quicker and solve on callbacks/email.  Answer less calls and solve while you&#039;re on the line, leaving customers in a queue waiting to get to a phone rep.

Which will produce a higher Customer Sat?  Consider yourself the customer.  Do you rather wait to speak to someone for an hour and (most of the time) have your problem fixed that time no matter how long it took, or would you rather wait 5 minutes just to talk to someone for 10 minutes, at which time either your problem is solved, or they need to get off the line to research the issue and get back with you (note:  Obviously, the severity of the problem is key.  If it is a severe problem, you would rather wait for an hour to get the problem fixed.  If it isn&#039;t, you&#039;d likely rather talk to someone quickly, and get off the phone to go do other things)

I was in the tricky situation of trying to tell a support group that there was absolutely no way we could pull data to show that putting their techs in a newsgroup to solve customer issues would save money, since there was no way to ensure that the customer saw the answer, that the answer solved the problem, and that, even if it did, the customer didn&#039;t just call in anyways to make sure.  The unquantifiable is the core of a call center, be it insurance claims or NT Support, but it is the bane of a business.

And that&#039;s enough babbling from this tech support vet =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too much to comment on, but, there was one point in there I wanted to hit on&#8230;</p>
<p>Quantity vs. Quality</p>
<p>*that* is the call center problem, especially when you&#8217;re an outsourced call center.  The call center gets paid by the call.  But the guarantee on that contract is that you do a good job at it.  Good leaders will recognize that customer satisfaction is the key, but good *managers* are the ones that make the company money.  </p>
<p>Even then, in today&#8217;s big business model, the unquantifiable *always* suffers as a business grows because it is unquantifiable.  You can&#8217;t really prove that you&#8217;re doing good, no matter how much logic dictates that it is good.</p>
<p>But, on the other hand, consider a call center.  There are two options:  Answer more calls quicker and solve on callbacks/email.  Answer less calls and solve while you&#8217;re on the line, leaving customers in a queue waiting to get to a phone rep.</p>
<p>Which will produce a higher Customer Sat?  Consider yourself the customer.  Do you rather wait to speak to someone for an hour and (most of the time) have your problem fixed that time no matter how long it took, or would you rather wait 5 minutes just to talk to someone for 10 minutes, at which time either your problem is solved, or they need to get off the line to research the issue and get back with you (note:  Obviously, the severity of the problem is key.  If it is a severe problem, you would rather wait for an hour to get the problem fixed.  If it isn&#8217;t, you&#8217;d likely rather talk to someone quickly, and get off the phone to go do other things)</p>
<p>I was in the tricky situation of trying to tell a support group that there was absolutely no way we could pull data to show that putting their techs in a newsgroup to solve customer issues would save money, since there was no way to ensure that the customer saw the answer, that the answer solved the problem, and that, even if it did, the customer didn&#8217;t just call in anyways to make sure.  The unquantifiable is the core of a call center, be it insurance claims or NT Support, but it is the bane of a business.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s enough babbling from this tech support vet =)</p>
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