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	<title>Comments on: Dr. Bose Tells All: Company Secrets, Why They Don&#8217;t Publish Specs, And More</title>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="516604621">Benny Dacks</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="516604621">Benny Dacks</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing post. I can tell you did your research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing post. I can tell you did your research.</p>
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		<title>By: LES60</title>
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		<dc:creator>LES60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of you may not remember the old days of sound reproduction. Radio Shack used to be an industry standard until they sold out a few times. Check out vintage stereo on Ebay. The reason people are ditching older big systems is other things become a higher priority such as space &quot;my wife says I need to clear this stuff out&quot; not disperaging the wife...just a fact of life sometimes. Dr Bose set a new standard in the &#039;60 with the 901 technology. There is no such thing as psycoacoustics. It&#039;s just a term for someone who wants to spend time bashing something they don&#039;t like. The design of the 901s re-creates the musical imagery of a live performance. Not all instruments send sound directly toward the listener. If that was true then someone goofed with the french horn. Dr. Bose&#039; comments are based on the 901 development only. If you don&#039;t like them, dont buy them. Don&#039;t insult others because they were born with different ears. THe fact is, no matter what anyone else says negatively about Bose, if people didnt think they sounded good, they would have been bankrupt a long time ago. I have 2 sets of 901s and a 901 Spatial Control Receiver. I can give you strong enough low thuds to make A cup boobs jiggle. I can reproduce highs to make dogs howl. But my purpose is my own for listening to them. I like them and it&#039;s no body elses business that I do. I don&#039;t bash other products I dont like. I just dont use them. If they are faulty, I take them back. Everyone has opinions and butts...in both cases some just produce more crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of you may not remember the old days of sound reproduction. Radio Shack used to be an industry standard until they sold out a few times. Check out vintage stereo on Ebay. The reason people are ditching older big systems is other things become a higher priority such as space &#8220;my wife says I need to clear this stuff out&#8221; not disperaging the wife&#8230;just a fact of life sometimes. Dr Bose set a new standard in the &#8216;60 with the 901 technology. There is no such thing as psycoacoustics. It&#8217;s just a term for someone who wants to spend time bashing something they don&#8217;t like. The design of the 901s re-creates the musical imagery of a live performance. Not all instruments send sound directly toward the listener. If that was true then someone goofed with the french horn. Dr. Bose&#8217; comments are based on the 901 development only. If you don&#8217;t like them, dont buy them. Don&#8217;t insult others because they were born with different ears. THe fact is, no matter what anyone else says negatively about Bose, if people didnt think they sounded good, they would have been bankrupt a long time ago. I have 2 sets of 901s and a 901 Spatial Control Receiver. I can give you strong enough low thuds to make A cup boobs jiggle. I can reproduce highs to make dogs howl. But my purpose is my own for listening to them. I like them and it&#8217;s no body elses business that I do. I don&#8217;t bash other products I dont like. I just dont use them. If they are faulty, I take them back. Everyone has opinions and butts&#8230;in both cases some just produce more crap.</p>
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		<title>By: cwall99</title>
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		<dc:creator>cwall99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Dr. Bose was disappointed by speakers he bought from Radio Shack. Is that really a surprise? From the way this article reads, he designed a product to outperform a Radio Shack (Realistic) system. That&#039;s setting the bar pretty low.

People have done their own assessments of the Bose cube speakers frequency response curves, and the bottom end of the acoustimass module is somewhere around 160 Hz, but, because the cubes themselves can&#039;t get down very low, they force the acoustimass module to go up to somewhere around 320 Hz. Then, there&#039;s a big gap between the top end of the acoustimass and the bottom end of cubes. I think it&#039;s something around 80 Hz that are missing, and finally, the cubes top out at around 10,000 Hz.

For some perspective on these numbers: typical healthy human hearing ranges (in someone around 20 years old) from roughly 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. So the Bose speakers don&#039;t come close to covering the entire range of human hearing.

There are other psychoacoustic issues that are problems with Bose speakers. For instance, because the cubes can&#039;t get down deep enough to cover most of the range of men&#039;s voices, they leave the reproduction of men&#039;s voices up to  the acoustimass module. But, because these frequencies are as high as they are, they&#039;re localizable, meaning that you&#039;ll hear all the men&#039;s voices in a movie coming from the direction of the acoustimass module.

You can find home theaters in a box that include 5.1 speakers (the .1 being the subwoofer), a DVD player, and a receiver for substantially less than a comparable Bose system, but this system will outperform the Bose system hands down.

Next time you&#039;re at a store that sells Bose, ask to do an A/B comparison. They won&#039;t be able to accommodate your request because Bose won&#039;t let them put their speakers anywhere near a competitor&#039;s product. They don&#039;t want you to hear the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Dr. Bose was disappointed by speakers he bought from Radio Shack. Is that really a surprise? From the way this article reads, he designed a product to outperform a Radio Shack (Realistic) system. That&#8217;s setting the bar pretty low.</p>
<p>People have done their own assessments of the Bose cube speakers frequency response curves, and the bottom end of the acoustimass module is somewhere around 160 Hz, but, because the cubes themselves can&#8217;t get down very low, they force the acoustimass module to go up to somewhere around 320 Hz. Then, there&#8217;s a big gap between the top end of the acoustimass and the bottom end of cubes. I think it&#8217;s something around 80 Hz that are missing, and finally, the cubes top out at around 10,000 Hz.</p>
<p>For some perspective on these numbers: typical healthy human hearing ranges (in someone around 20 years old) from roughly 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. So the Bose speakers don&#8217;t come close to covering the entire range of human hearing.</p>
<p>There are other psychoacoustic issues that are problems with Bose speakers. For instance, because the cubes can&#8217;t get down deep enough to cover most of the range of men&#8217;s voices, they leave the reproduction of men&#8217;s voices up to  the acoustimass module. But, because these frequencies are as high as they are, they&#8217;re localizable, meaning that you&#8217;ll hear all the men&#8217;s voices in a movie coming from the direction of the acoustimass module.</p>
<p>You can find home theaters in a box that include 5.1 speakers (the .1 being the subwoofer), a DVD player, and a receiver for substantially less than a comparable Bose system, but this system will outperform the Bose system hands down.</p>
<p>Next time you&#8217;re at a store that sells Bose, ask to do an A/B comparison. They won&#8217;t be able to accommodate your request because Bose won&#8217;t let them put their speakers anywhere near a competitor&#8217;s product. They don&#8217;t want you to hear the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honey was not ment for donkeys, you live in a countrie were you can buy and return things if you had them for less then a month, take the test your selves, hear stuff like &#039;dead can dance&#039; or &#039;tool&#039;, bands with lots of FX sounds trust your ears and you will just end up hearing things that you never heard before on songs you have heard over and over again, Bose is about a clear crisp great quality sound, not monster senceless loud, and its a matter of taste too, like you either like  fender or gibson, never both. not all bose products are good but the latest ones are great! no highs no lows? put  a pair of 901&#039;s in front of what ever your high end speakers and hear what a diference these make, take them to the test. what can you loose anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honey was not ment for donkeys, you live in a countrie were you can buy and return things if you had them for less then a month, take the test your selves, hear stuff like &#8216;dead can dance&#8217; or &#8216;tool&#8217;, bands with lots of FX sounds trust your ears and you will just end up hearing things that you never heard before on songs you have heard over and over again, Bose is about a clear crisp great quality sound, not monster senceless loud, and its a matter of taste too, like you either like  fender or gibson, never both. not all bose products are good but the latest ones are great! no highs no lows? put  a pair of 901&#8217;s in front of what ever your high end speakers and hear what a diference these make, take them to the test. what can you loose anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment is psychohocus-pocus. Suppose u can invent a better speaker einstein!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment is psychohocus-pocus. Suppose u can invent a better speaker einstein!</p>
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		<title>By: Brooklyn-Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooklyn-Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a  BOSE system installed in my Nissan  SUV where a friend had a generic system installed in their Ford suv and let me tell you there is a substantial difference, windows up or down.

Similarly, with surround systems and their headphones; Had numerous products from competitors and had the same results. Bose produced clarity with deep rich sound.

Take my word, if you&#039;re observant individual and you&#039;ve used different products in the same environment in the past you&#039;re likely to hear the difference (home,car, or elsewhere). On that note, if you think every glass of red wine taste the same, then just purchase the first item nearest  the entrance or the most economic because you won&#039;t be able to tell the difference.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a  BOSE system installed in my Nissan  SUV where a friend had a generic system installed in their Ford suv and let me tell you there is a substantial difference, windows up or down.</p>
<p>Similarly, with surround systems and their headphones; Had numerous products from competitors and had the same results. Bose produced clarity with deep rich sound.</p>
<p>Take my word, if you&#8217;re observant individual and you&#8217;ve used different products in the same environment in the past you&#8217;re likely to hear the difference (home,car, or elsewhere). On that note, if you think every glass of red wine taste the same, then just purchase the first item nearest  the entrance or the most economic because you won&#8217;t be able to tell the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenan Sulayman</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/09/19/dr-bose-tells-all-company-sercrets-why-they-dont-publish-specs-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-987086</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenan Sulayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re 1000% in my opinion.

At the other side, I&#039;d like to reply to another comment made 4 days before &quot;SoundGirl&quot; did.

&quot;if it makes me think it sounds good, then, it sounds good. &quot;, as long as they invent sound-modules, which manipulate us - or even if they don&#039;t - I mean, isn&#039;t it all the same as long as they sound good?

Man, damn - I&#039;m just waiting for something manipulating, since I know - in that case, it&#039;ll has to sound good, right ? Jep.

Bose is overpricing, indeed.
But, wait - aren&#039;t there much other companies, who work 10000% the same way ?

--
For example:
Microsoft Windows 7 will be released in Autumn 2009, guess how much it costs. Got it ?
I don&#039;t think so. It&#039;ll be priced at $700.
You know why ? Because Microsoft thinks, their OS is worth it - I think so, indeed - but compare it to Bose.

Even if they haven&#039;t ever constructed an own system, and even if they used an army of lawyers to get their technologies &quot;patented&quot;, in my opinion, it worth every of my cents, I spent in them.

Truly, I think, I&#039;ll get called a &quot;wannabe&quot; or a &quot;somewhat like a dumb newbie&quot; by someone here - but, it&#039;s also worth it to spread my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re 1000% in my opinion.</p>
<p>At the other side, I&#8217;d like to reply to another comment made 4 days before &#8220;SoundGirl&#8221; did.</p>
<p>&#8220;if it makes me think it sounds good, then, it sounds good. &#8220;, as long as they invent sound-modules, which manipulate us &#8211; or even if they don&#8217;t &#8211; I mean, isn&#8217;t it all the same as long as they sound good?</p>
<p>Man, damn &#8211; I&#8217;m just waiting for something manipulating, since I know &#8211; in that case, it&#8217;ll has to sound good, right ? Jep.</p>
<p>Bose is overpricing, indeed.<br />
But, wait &#8211; aren&#8217;t there much other companies, who work 10000% the same way ?</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
For example:<br />
Microsoft Windows 7 will be released in Autumn 2009, guess how much it costs. Got it ?<br />
I don&#8217;t think so. It&#8217;ll be priced at $700.<br />
You know why ? Because Microsoft thinks, their OS is worth it &#8211; I think so, indeed &#8211; but compare it to Bose.</p>
<p>Even if they haven&#8217;t ever constructed an own system, and even if they used an army of lawyers to get their technologies &#8220;patented&#8221;, in my opinion, it worth every of my cents, I spent in them.</p>
<p>Truly, I think, I&#8217;ll get called a &#8220;wannabe&#8221; or a &#8220;somewhat like a dumb newbie&#8221; by someone here &#8211; but, it&#8217;s also worth it to spread my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: SoundGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoundGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Dr.Bose is making a great effort in sound improvement... 
The speakers sounds great in comparison of other brands... 
I think that buy a Bose item is like buy a Mercedes Benz of the speakers... 
Good stuff for lot money...
He will not publish some details because all we know that chinesse or japanese copy industry...
If Bose were my bussines i will do the same...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Dr.Bose is making a great effort in sound improvement&#8230;<br />
The speakers sounds great in comparison of other brands&#8230;<br />
I think that buy a Bose item is like buy a Mercedes Benz of the speakers&#8230;<br />
Good stuff for lot money&#8230;<br />
He will not publish some details because all we know that chinesse or japanese copy industry&#8230;<br />
If Bose were my bussines i will do the same&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um on psychoacoustics.....if it makes me think it sounds good, then, it sounds good. Period.  My ears don&#039;t care what anybdy else thinks. My money is with Bose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um on psychoacoustics&#8230;..if it makes me think it sounds good, then, it sounds good. Period.  My ears don&#8217;t care what anybdy else thinks. My money is with Bose.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Highs, No Lows...Must be Bose.

Look Bose is like McDonald&#039;s.  McDonald&#039;s sells the most Hamburgers.  Just not the best.  

Their hocuspocus with phycoacoustics is what makes people think they sound good.  Get rid of the processing, and Bose has nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Highs, No Lows&#8230;Must be Bose.</p>
<p>Look Bose is like McDonald&#8217;s.  McDonald&#8217;s sells the most Hamburgers.  Just not the best.  </p>
<p>Their hocuspocus with phycoacoustics is what makes people think they sound good.  Get rid of the processing, and Bose has nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after getting triports I stopped asking about specs. To me they sound so much better than anything that I have had (even in the same price range) that i dont care. The only spec I want to see is a Sound quality Spec.  I did call up bose and ask them specs about their drivers, and they declined, much to my surprise at the time - which in turn made me get other - inferior - headphones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after getting triports I stopped asking about specs. To me they sound so much better than anything that I have had (even in the same price range) that i dont care. The only spec I want to see is a Sound quality Spec.  I did call up bose and ask them specs about their drivers, and they declined, much to my surprise at the time &#8211; which in turn made me get other &#8211; inferior &#8211; headphones.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree...that was &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; a good point about why they don&#039;t publish the specs.  I&#039;m not a Bose hater, and at one point actually considered purchasing a set; they can sound pretty decent in a perfectly calibrated room with ideal acoustic treatments, but in every home I&#039;ve been to that had a Bose surround sound setup, I&#039;ve never been impressed even after calibration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree&#8230;that was <b>not</b> a good point about why they don&#8217;t publish the specs.  I&#8217;m not a Bose hater, and at one point actually considered purchasing a set; they can sound pretty decent in a perfectly calibrated room with ideal acoustic treatments, but in every home I&#8217;ve been to that had a Bose surround sound setup, I&#8217;ve never been impressed even after calibration.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Sander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point about spec&#039;s but that still doesn&#039;t explain the over the top high prices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point about spec&#8217;s but that still doesn&#8217;t explain the over the top high prices</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/09/19/dr-bose-tells-all-company-sercrets-why-they-dont-publish-specs-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-434919</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, and by having retails stores and forcing customers to go in and hear the speakers you bring them one step closer to the purchase.
Interesting story, but hardly the full reasoning behind not publishing specs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, and by having retails stores and forcing customers to go in and hear the speakers you bring them one step closer to the purchase.<br />
Interesting story, but hardly the full reasoning behind not publishing specs.</p>
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