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	<title>Comments on: Ok, Wait, Le Backup: iPhone Not Coming to France&#8217;s Orange Afterall? Huh?</title>
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		<title>By: raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/09/27/ok-wait-le-backup-iphone-not-coming-to-frances-orange-afterall-huh/comment-page-1/#comment-461473</link>
		<dc:creator>raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason is simple :
Apple has to deal with Orange (France Telecom) because Orange has half of the cellphone market in France, the best network and coverage...
Anyway there&#039;s no rush for french people (or european) to buy an iphone, because in europe we have 3G and 3G+ and Iphone is not ready for that...
So why buy an I phone 400 Euros if you can&#039;t use it with the new 3G system....
Raphaël,Paris, France</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason is simple :<br />
Apple has to deal with Orange (France Telecom) because Orange has half of the cellphone market in France, the best network and coverage&#8230;<br />
Anyway there&#8217;s no rush for french people (or european) to buy an iphone, because in europe we have 3G and 3G+ and Iphone is not ready for that&#8230;<br />
So why buy an I phone 400 Euros if you can&#8217;t use it with the new 3G system&#8230;.<br />
Raphaël,Paris, France</p>
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		<title>By: ArnY</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArnY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, the whole point is that in France you aren&#039;t allowed to force customers to buy a service or a product they might not want. 

 That means that there, Apple can&#039;t exclusively sell the iphone with an Orange service. The Iphone also needs to be sold separately. 

 For the same reason, a french court ruled against Acer and Microsoft: a customer sued both for not being allowed to buy the computer he wanted without Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, the whole point is that in France you aren&#8217;t allowed to force customers to buy a service or a product they might not want. </p>
<p> That means that there, Apple can&#8217;t exclusively sell the iphone with an Orange service. The Iphone also needs to be sold separately. </p>
<p> For the same reason, a french court ruled against Acer and Microsoft: a customer sued both for not being allowed to buy the computer he wanted without Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Speedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m french and I&#039;m crying...
I more prefer SFR (Vodafone) than Orange... but I don&#039;t know if finally we&#039;ll have the iPhone one day... sic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m french and I&#8217;m crying&#8230;<br />
I more prefer SFR (Vodafone) than Orange&#8230; but I don&#8217;t know if finally we&#8217;ll have the iPhone one day&#8230; sic</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ken Lore: dude, the French are a country, not a race (who says they&#039;re &quot;one quarter French&quot;?). Or a culture. It&#039;s not racist. Also, the French, as a culture, are fun, and easy, to make fun of. Your argument to me shouldn&#039;t be that I&#039;m making fun of the French (which is OK), but that I&#039;m being lazy about it.

@ Mariena: Thanks, but you&#039;re right: I&#039;m more confused. If I understand, the non-literal translation is: &quot;In France, we&#039;ve got it so rough! Mayonnaise doens&#039;t come in jars! And now no iPhones!? Sac-la-blur!&quot;

Am I close?

Thanks for commenting!

But really, thanks for trying to make it make sense, but I&#039;m all, like, &quot;Huh!?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ken Lore: dude, the French are a country, not a race (who says they&#8217;re &#8220;one quarter French&#8221;?). Or a culture. It&#8217;s not racist. Also, the French, as a culture, are fun, and easy, to make fun of. Your argument to me shouldn&#8217;t be that I&#8217;m making fun of the French (which is OK), but that I&#8217;m being lazy about it.</p>
<p>@ Mariena: Thanks, but you&#8217;re right: I&#8217;m more confused. If I understand, the non-literal translation is: &#8220;In France, we&#8217;ve got it so rough! Mayonnaise doens&#8217;t come in jars! And now no iPhones!? Sac-la-blur!&#8221;</p>
<p>Am I close?</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting!</p>
<p>But really, thanks for trying to make it make sense, but I&#8217;m all, like, &#8220;Huh!?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t usually read TechCrunch en francais since a lot of the stories overlap... but for the mayonnaise comment I made the effort!  

I don&#039;t know if you actually care or just thought it was funny... but I&#039;m going to tell you anyway since I took it as my duty to provide an explication.  

&quot;Le moins que l’on puisse dire est que la mayonnaise prend beaucoup moins en France que dans d’autres pays concernant le lancement de l’iPhone.&quot;
Literally this translates as &quot;the least one can say is that mayonnaise takes a lot less in France then in other countries concerning the launch of the iPhone&quot;
This makes more sense if you understand the metaphor/expression in france refers to the fact that mayo is pretty difficult to make from scratch and if not careful it will go bad.  So the mayo = the launch of the iPhone.  The mayo has gone bad in France but in other countries it&#039;s still safe to eat!

:-)  (this will likely only lead to an increased amount of comments against the french but oh well...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually read TechCrunch en francais since a lot of the stories overlap&#8230; but for the mayonnaise comment I made the effort!  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you actually care or just thought it was funny&#8230; but I&#8217;m going to tell you anyway since I took it as my duty to provide an explication.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Le moins que l’on puisse dire est que la mayonnaise prend beaucoup moins en France que dans d’autres pays concernant le lancement de l’iPhone.&#8221;<br />
Literally this translates as &#8220;the least one can say is that mayonnaise takes a lot less in France then in other countries concerning the launch of the iPhone&#8221;<br />
This makes more sense if you understand the metaphor/expression in france refers to the fact that mayo is pretty difficult to make from scratch and if not careful it will go bad.  So the mayo = the launch of the iPhone.  The mayo has gone bad in France but in other countries it&#8217;s still safe to eat!</p>
<p>:-)  (this will likely only lead to an increased amount of comments against the french but oh well&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Lore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Lore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s this &quot;froggy&quot; racist remark?  Any way you cut it...it is a racist remark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s this &#8220;froggy&#8221; racist remark?  Any way you cut it&#8230;it is a racist remark!</p>
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