Comments on: How to get Mac OS X Leopard for as low as $40 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:58:35 -0500 hourly 1 By: JD http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-1143287 JD Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:45:03 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1143287 I love that this thread is still going, and there is good reason for it to be! I'm interested in the view of piracy as a "damn The Man" move. And also in understanding it as an action which works to change an antiquated and unbalanced system. But more to the original point: I bought a mac in the states and brought it to my friend in India. He is paying me what I paid for it. Macs are about 40% more expensive here. I assume this action was illegal either here or there for some reason, but in my world that is not he real barometer. Thoughts? I think of laws in the context of recipes. They’re about right, but be it a stop sign or dash of salt skipping it is not necessarily a sin… in fact the right way to do things can't actually be prescribed, but they are a good starting point. I love that this thread is still going, and there is good reason for it to be!

I’m interested in the view of piracy as a “damn The Man” move. And also in understanding it as an action which works to change an antiquated and unbalanced system.

But more to the original point:
I bought a mac in the states and brought it to my friend in India. He is paying me what I paid for it. Macs are about 40% more expensive here. I assume this action was illegal either here or there for some reason, but in my world that is not he real barometer. Thoughts?

I think of laws in the context of recipes. They’re about right, but be it a stop sign or dash of salt skipping it is not necessarily a sin… in fact the right way to do things can’t actually be prescribed, but they are a good starting point.

]]> By: LoL http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-1136057 LoL Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:14:19 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1136057 Lol at all the anti-"piracy" going on here. Must be a lot of mac fanboys, lol. This is how I see it... The person who bought the OSX was a student. Therefore no violation there. That student gave it you you as "a gift" second part about sharing it with a friend, well, I'd say you'd have to have that kid buy 2 copies for that part. Lol at all the anti-”piracy” going on here. Must be a lot of mac fanboys, lol. This is how I see it… The person who bought the OSX was a student. Therefore no violation there. That student gave it you you as “a gift” second part about sharing it with a friend, well, I’d say you’d have to have that kid buy 2 copies for that part.

]]> By: Jerry http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1131567 Jerry Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:00:16 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1131567 LOL :) LOL :)

]]> By: lil_luddite http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-1121064 lil_luddite Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:16:12 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1121064 I don't understand why everyone's so upset either. Apple doesn't exactly require some kind of product registration key before you can use the upgraded OS (unlike a **certain** popular OS), so one installation DVD can be used by a bunch of ppl. Look, OSX is great, but it's not exactly a breakthrough. It's based on BSD (which is free), I remember seeing some of the cool features (like Spaces in Leopard) in Ubuntu 7.04, again available for free. Another thing, as much as I like Apple products, I don't like the direction that it's going. The other day I was at an Apple store looking for a new battery for my 1st gen MacBook. I was looking @ the latest gen MacBooks and noticed something profoundly disturbing: you can't see the battery. I asked the young guy who was working there how you change the battery on those things, and he said that it was gonna have to be a service. That probably means, in addition to the cost of the battery, you need to pay service fee for the "Genius" to change your batt. That's not a problem if you have AppleCare, but if you don't? So you see that Apple is ripping you off too. I don't see how you ripping Apple off 80 dollars using a fake ID is such a bad thing, when: 1. you can pull off the same thing w/o using a fake ID, and 2. Apple wants to charge you to change your battery for you. I don’t understand why everyone’s so upset either. Apple doesn’t exactly require some kind of product registration key before you can use the upgraded OS (unlike a **certain** popular OS), so one installation DVD can be used by a bunch of ppl. Look, OSX is great, but it’s not exactly a breakthrough. It’s based on BSD (which is free), I remember seeing some of the cool features (like Spaces in Leopard) in Ubuntu 7.04, again available for free. Another thing, as much as I like Apple products, I don’t like the direction that it’s going. The other day I was at an Apple store looking for a new battery for my 1st gen MacBook. I was looking @ the latest gen MacBooks and noticed something profoundly disturbing: you can’t see the battery. I asked the young guy who was working there how you change the battery on those things, and he said that it was gonna have to be a service. That probably means, in addition to the cost of the battery, you need to pay service fee for the “Genius” to change your batt. That’s not a problem if you have AppleCare, but if you don’t? So you see that Apple is ripping you off too. I don’t see how you ripping Apple off 80 dollars using a fake ID is such a bad thing, when: 1. you can pull off the same thing w/o using a fake ID, and 2. Apple wants to charge you to change your battery for you.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1100341 Bryan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:00:47 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1100341 what if you don't like society but are forced to be a part of it? what if you don’t like society but are forced to be a part of it?

]]> By: Bryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1100338 Bryan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:59:36 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1100338 a student and a bitch a student and a bitch

]]> By: Bryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1100337 Bryan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:58:48 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1100337 yeah watch your dick moves yeah watch your dick moves

]]> By: Bryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1100335 Bryan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:58:03 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1100335 I like that "taking advantage of kids" I like that “taking advantage of kids”

]]> By: Bryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1100334 Bryan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:57:15 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1100334 Who cares Who cares

]]> By: Bryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1100332 Bryan Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:56:12 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1100332 It's called retaliation So suck it It’s called retaliation So suck it

]]> By: PityTheWindowsUsers http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1064654 PityTheWindowsUsers Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:01:13 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1064654 Did you honestly just reply to someone who posted a year ago on a thread that's now almost two years old? Yeah. GG. I can see why you need to break EULA's since it doesn't appear you've got the common sense to ever do much more than flip burgers. Did you honestly just reply to someone who posted a year ago on a thread that’s now almost two years old? Yeah. GG. I can see why you need to break EULA’s since it doesn’t appear you’ve got the common sense to ever do much more than flip burgers.

]]> By: Melinda http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-1/#comment-1063298 Melinda Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:38:51 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1063298 Shut up about it already!!! If you don't think this is good advice then DON'T TAKE IT. But some of us think this is very clever. Quit chastising him for trying to help his his mates. Mac overcharges anyways... o_O Shut up about it already!!! If you don’t think this is good advice then DON’T TAKE IT. But some of us think this is very clever. Quit chastising him for trying to help his his mates. Mac overcharges anyways… o_O

]]> By: Toz http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-1022740 Toz Tue, 19 May 2009 22:58:24 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1022740 I know I'm a little late to the argument, but I do know - at least at my alma mater, where I worked at the campus computer store - when a school offers a program for less than the academic price, it's the school that's paying the difference. So you not only stole from Apple, you also stole from UPenn. Congratulations. Your mother must be proud. I know I’m a little late to the argument, but I do know – at least at my alma mater, where I worked at the campus computer store – when a school offers a program for less than the academic price, it’s the school that’s paying the difference. So you not only stole from Apple, you also stole from UPenn. Congratulations. Your mother must be proud.

]]> By: Karstan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-1021088 Karstan Sat, 16 May 2009 00:07:06 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-1021088 All you naysayers suck. Not everyone has $140 to blow on a freaking UPGRADE. Apple is NOT hurting for money and he paid for the damn thing, just at a huge discount. Suck it up and get off your high horse. I bet none of you have ever sped or failed to come to a complete stop at a stop-sign either? Overstayed at a parking meter? Right. So STFU. All you naysayers suck. Not everyone has $140 to blow on a freaking UPGRADE. Apple is NOT hurting for money and he paid for the damn thing, just at a huge discount. Suck it up and get off your high horse. I bet none of you have ever sped or failed to come to a complete stop at a stop-sign either? Overstayed at a parking meter? Right. So STFU.

]]> By: Danny http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-992729 Danny Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:15:53 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-992729 I'm a high school student, i completely rebuilt my f*cked imac by buying used parts because i can't afford apples ridiculous replacement prices for generic parts. even then, i spent over $600 alone just fixing it. that on top of $1200 for the piece of sh*t itself, plus another $600 for final cut pro, which is the only reason why i even have a mac, and that turns into minimum wage hours at my local grocery store. apples prices are ridiculous. they over glorify their computers because of their name, so yeah, i really wouldn't care if someone else strapped for cash after purchasing an over priced PC took advantage of the student discount, I'm sure they were a student at one time anyway, and its not like they aren't paying anything for it anyways. it seems to me like if apple is going to sell they're machines for so much they should offer free os upgrade downloads, as a service to their customers whom they have already taken advantage of. I’m a high school student, i completely rebuilt my f*cked imac by buying used parts because i can’t afford apples ridiculous replacement prices for generic parts. even then, i spent over $600 alone just fixing it. that on top of $1200 for the piece of sh*t itself, plus another $600 for final cut pro, which is the only reason why i even have a mac, and that turns into minimum wage hours at my local grocery store. apples prices are ridiculous. they over glorify their computers because of their name, so yeah, i really wouldn’t care if someone else strapped for cash after purchasing an over priced PC took advantage of the student discount, I’m sure they were a student at one time anyway, and its not like they aren’t paying anything for it anyways. it seems to me like if apple is going to sell they’re machines for so much they should offer free os upgrade downloads, as a service to their customers whom they have already taken advantage of.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-977661 Kevin Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:43:49 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-977661 I'm sure he's not the first to recommend a way to save money. You're all a bunch of bitches! I’m sure he’s not the first to recommend a way to save money. You’re all a bunch of bitches!

]]> By: fuji http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-971372 fuji Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:33:09 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-971372 Why is it considered stealing if the option to get product cheaper or free exists? Stealing implies the product has one value and the thief undermined that value. We live in a competitive market which results in a product that now has more than one value. What happened here was not theft but exploitation, and as these huge corporations continuously exploit consumers I think it's only natural that eventually consumers would end up exploiting corporations. I paid over $3000 for my mac and less than a year later Im required to drop at least $130 to keep up with the latest technology wave? If I can get it for $20 Im going to do that knowing full well within 6 months Im again going to subject myself to charges of fraud in order to get EagleEye v13.5.7(made it up). The point is I dont want to pay $130 and the smartest thing for Mac to do is lower the price if they are concerned with the amount of money they are losing to fraud and piracy. Thats what Itunes did. If you can't stop 'em join 'em:) Why is it considered stealing if the option to get product cheaper or free exists? Stealing implies the product has one value and the thief undermined that value. We live in a competitive market which results in a product that now has more than one value.

What happened here was not theft but exploitation, and as these huge corporations continuously exploit consumers I think it’s only natural that eventually consumers would end up exploiting corporations. I paid over $3000 for my mac and less than a year later Im required to drop at least $130 to keep up with the latest technology wave?

If I can get it for $20 Im going to do that knowing full well within 6 months Im again going to subject myself to charges of fraud in order to get EagleEye v13.5.7(made it up). The point is I dont want to pay $130 and the smartest thing for Mac to do is lower the price if they are concerned with the amount of money they are losing to fraud and piracy. Thats what Itunes did. If you can’t stop ‘em join ‘em:)

]]> By: shithead mcfuck http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-942295 shithead mcfuck Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:27:41 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-942295 why are people getting so pissed at this post? Hell apple already has millions and millions. This guy getting a deal is nothing bad. Plus not everyone can do this so it's not like it even hurt Mac to begin with. I'd do the same damn thing! I did try to use a friends Leopard disk to upgrade mine but it would work! It showed the new background but it wouldn't go past that part. We both have the same computer (Black MacBook). What is up with that? why are people getting so pissed at this post? Hell apple already has millions and millions. This guy getting a deal is nothing bad. Plus not everyone can do this so it’s not like it even hurt Mac to begin with. I’d do the same damn thing! I did try to use a friends Leopard disk to upgrade mine but it would work! It showed the new background but it wouldn’t go past that part. We both have the same computer (Black MacBook). What is up with that?

]]> By: Curmudgeon http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-794652 Curmudgeon Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:09:31 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-794652 You're kidding, right? Oh, please...come back and revisit this idea when the company you work for has to shut down and lay you off (make you redundant, is that the right term?) because the software you develop has been so popular and widely pirated that there is no longer enough profit to keep in business. No, Apple is unlikely to go out of business because of this one instance, but piracy like this does have an effect, and if it's okay to do it to Apple, isn't it okay to do it to the small specialty development company that has 2 employees? You’re kidding, right? Oh, please…come back and revisit this idea when the company you work for has to shut down and lay you off (make you redundant, is that the right term?) because the software you develop has been so popular and widely pirated that there is no longer enough profit to keep in business.
No, Apple is unlikely to go out of business because of this one instance, but piracy like this does have an effect, and if it’s okay to do it to Apple, isn’t it okay to do it to the small specialty development company that has 2 employees?

]]> By: Curmudgeon http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/comment-page-2/#comment-794648 Curmudgeon Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:05:26 +0000 http://crunchgear.com/2007/10/17/how-to-get-mac-os-x-leopard-for-as-low-as-40/#comment-794648 Who gets to decide what is "enough" money? and what does that have to do with following an established legal code? Who gets to decide what is “enough” money? and what does that have to do with following an established legal code?

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