Comments on: Why I’d trade my vote for an iPod touch http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:50:25 -0500 hourly 1 By: MASTER CHIEF http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-712130 MASTER CHIEF Tue, 27 May 2008 16:04:11 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-712130 I AM CHUCK NORRIS IN ARMORE. I AM CHUCK NORRIS IN ARMORE.

]]> By: chuck norris http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-712122 chuck norris Tue, 27 May 2008 16:01:12 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-712122 i am the greaest kung fu master alive and i dont sleep i wait i am the greaest kung fu master alive and i dont sleep i wait

]]> By: Aron http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527776 Aron Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:33:00 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527776 If you listen to what he's saying, there's good logic there. It's not that VOTING is not worthwhile, but that the "First Past the Post" system is totally flawed, especially when it's used to decide a whole county, or whole state's "vote" is counted. The system that's in place is flawed. It was designed for another time. If you listen to what he’s saying, there’s good logic there. It’s not that VOTING is not worthwhile, but that the “First Past the Post” system is totally flawed, especially when it’s used to decide a whole county, or whole state’s “vote” is counted.

The system that’s in place is flawed. It was designed for another time.

]]> By: win http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527739 win Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:18:47 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527739 you can say you'll not vote because you don't know the value. as an immigrant from asia who came from a country where there is no chance to vote even for your local council let alone your president, prime minister, i think you should respect your country has at least a resonably fair election system. mind you, no political system is perfect you can say you’ll not vote because you don’t know the value. as an immigrant from asia who came from a country where there is no chance to vote even for your local council let alone your president, prime minister, i think you should respect your country has at least a resonably fair election system. mind you, no political system is perfect

]]> By: lt.milo http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527710 lt.milo Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:20:49 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527710 It's actually pretty scary to hear someone talk like that It’s actually pretty scary to hear someone talk like that

]]> By: ProfessionalGun http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527607 ProfessionalGun Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:32:55 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527607 As an individual, you may feel like one drop of water in an ocean - but if your thought process became widely accepted - do you realize how quickly you'd lose the things you've clearly taken for granted? Your vote, amongst a majority, is an activating part of that majority. Your vote amongst a minority is an activating part of the ascent to victory (regardless of the outcome). Resist the temptation to view it any other way. That's completely counter-productive. As an individual, you may feel like one drop of water in an ocean – but if your thought process became widely accepted – do you realize how quickly you’d lose the things you’ve clearly taken for granted? Your vote, amongst a majority, is an activating part of that majority. Your vote amongst a minority is an activating part of the ascent to victory (regardless of the outcome). Resist the temptation to view it any other way. That’s completely counter-productive.

]]> By: John http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527565 John Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:46:26 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527565 WAVA I would love to see this country with a popular vote WAVA I would love to see this country with a popular vote

]]> By: ajadoniz http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527551 ajadoniz Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:14:31 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527551 We got a hot one here. Your vote counts, I mean, it is technically counted, just that at the end it doesn't. The voting system has to change. Hopefully California will lead the way. We got a hot one here. Your vote counts, I mean, it is technically counted, just that at the end it doesn’t. The voting system has to change. Hopefully California will lead the way.

]]> By: Tragedy of the Commons http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527550 Tragedy of the Commons Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:10:42 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527550 Mr Deleon: In your analysis, you fail to consider the unknowable number of other citizens coming to the same conclusion ("my vote won't effect the outcome"), deciding not to vote, and thereby having an indirect effect on the outcome by failing to cause a direct effect. Further, you are analyzing a historical election (2004). Hindsight allows your unreasoned conclusion to seemingly hold water. However, you do not have the benefit of hindsight in any future election. The willingness to trade suffrage for a toy is the mark of a fool--I hope you merely wrote this article to generate traffic to your site and failed to actually consider the issue. Mr Deleon:

In your analysis, you fail to consider the unknowable number of other citizens coming to the same conclusion (”my vote won’t effect the outcome”), deciding not to vote, and thereby having an indirect effect on the outcome by failing to cause a direct effect.

Further, you are analyzing a historical election (2004). Hindsight allows your unreasoned conclusion to seemingly hold water. However, you do not have the benefit of hindsight in any future election.

The willingness to trade suffrage for a toy is the mark of a fool–I hope you merely wrote this article to generate traffic to your site and failed to actually consider the issue.

]]> By: Randy http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527531 Randy Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:08:54 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527531 Jeff (above comments) hit the nail on the head, give up your right to vote? Even if your vote never made a difference because of your voting area...you still vote. A vote is a American right that was fought for and won...and won more than once. You would give that "right" up for a electronic toy that would be a door stop in 5 years. I'm forty years old and your article, if it hints at what the youth of America are like, then America will be taken over in the next 50 years. Sad Jeff (above comments) hit the nail on the head, give up your right to vote? Even if your vote never made a difference because of your voting area…you still vote. A vote is a American right that was fought for and won…and won more than once. You would give that “right” up for a electronic toy that would be a door stop in 5 years.

I’m forty years old and your article, if it hints at what the youth of America are like, then America will be taken over in the next 50 years.

Sad

]]> By: bpm2000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527528 bpm2000 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:52:24 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527528 anyone with any sort of economics bg knows voting is worthless! I'll take my touch pls. anyone with any sort of economics bg knows voting is worthless! I’ll take my touch pls.

]]> By: Chris Nixon http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527527 Chris Nixon Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:49:02 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527527 That's "democracy" for you. The electoral college system is a joke. That’s “democracy” for you. The electoral college system is a joke.

]]> By: ryan http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527523 ryan Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:20:46 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527523 whoa Nicholas, you must of struck a nerve who would have thought gadget geeks would be so into democracy must be from voting on all those Digg articles i guess its a good sign I'll take my Itouch whoa Nicholas, you must of struck a nerve
who would have thought gadget geeks would be so into democracy
must be from voting on all those Digg articles
i guess its a good sign

I’ll take my Itouch

]]> By: Dave http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527519 Dave Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:13:54 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527519 This is just one man's opinion, but I think if you don't vote, you have no right to criticize anyone in political office or any political issue. You've disqualified yourself from the discussion by not taking a few minutes out of your day to do something that might actually have an impact on REAL life. I'm an Ohioan (a swing state), so my vote almost always has an impact on something and I feel guilty if I ever forget or miss an election because of business travel, even if it's just the smallest of issues on the ballot. My advice- if it's too hard to make it to the booth (or you're too lazy) look into absentee balloting. You get to vote and you can stay at home playing your precious WoW. This is just one man’s opinion, but I think if you don’t vote, you have no right to criticize anyone in political office or any political issue. You’ve disqualified yourself from the discussion by not taking a few minutes out of your day to do something that might actually have an impact on REAL life.

I’m an Ohioan (a swing state), so my vote almost always has an impact on something and I feel guilty if I ever forget or miss an election because of business travel, even if it’s just the smallest of issues on the ballot.

My advice- if it’s too hard to make it to the booth (or you’re too lazy) look into absentee balloting. You get to vote and you can stay at home playing your precious WoW.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527509 Chuck Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:38:51 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527509 I am not so sure I would give away my voting rights for an iPod touch. We Americans are truly blessed to be able to vote for people who represent us. But I will admit, if I had $399 laying around, I would BUY an iPod touch in a heartbeat! They truly rock! I am not so sure I would give away my voting rights for an iPod touch. We Americans are truly blessed to be able to vote for people who represent us.

But I will admit, if I had $399 laying around, I would BUY an iPod touch in a heartbeat! They truly rock!

]]> By: Nicholas Deleon http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527507 Nicholas Deleon Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:32:02 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527507 No, Tim, I haven't voted. Ever! For anything! In 2004 because I didn't want to take the train an hour north and by 2006 I was already disgusted with politics. HTH. -nd No, Tim, I haven’t voted. Ever! For anything! In 2004 because I didn’t want to take the train an hour north and by 2006 I was already disgusted with politics. HTH.

-nd

]]> By: tim http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527505 tim Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:17:02 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527505 You are basing your entire argument on Presidential election. Have you -ever- voted? Seriously - have you??? If you have you should of noticed a number of things - such as elections for all sorts of things. Such as for the House (every two years!) and Senate (which may or may not be up depending on your state) not to mention a flurry of local elections and ballot initiatives. Many of which are settled with just a few votes. So get off your ass and spend an hour or so every two years and vote. At least my state allows me to not vote for something which is highly likely on the presidential election. You are basing your entire argument on Presidential election. Have you -ever- voted? Seriously – have you???

If you have you should of noticed a number of things – such as elections for all sorts of things. Such as for the House (every two years!) and Senate (which may or may not be up depending on your state) not to mention a flurry of local elections and ballot initiatives. Many of which are settled with just a few votes. So get off your ass and spend an hour or so every two years and vote. At least my state allows me to not vote for something which is highly likely on the presidential election.

]]> By: jeff http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-527503 jeff Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:12:44 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/11/20/why-id-trade-my-vote-for-an-ipod-touch/#comment-527503 That reasoning was borderling offensive to me. First of all a little respect for the people who came before you to secure that right to vote that you (and others would give up so easily). While I can expect many would surrender their right to vote, or for that matter their privacy for the latest tech "hotness" as a "journalist" one would think you would be able to identify the gaping hole in your own logic as to why your vote is meaningless. Sure, individually your vote would not have changed the outcome of the election one way or the other, but if you calculate the different in votes in your county, and multiply that number by the price of the ipod touch... then I guess it is possible to buy an election.... Anyway, despite thye tone of my comment, I am a big fan of your articles, and this site... I just think you may have suffered a blunt force trauma to the head before typing this article :) Hey, if I buy you an Oqo, can I have all your social security checks when you retire? That reasoning was borderling offensive to me. First of all a little respect for the people who came before you to secure that right to vote that you (and others would give up so easily). While I can expect many would surrender their right to vote, or for that matter their privacy for the latest tech “hotness” as a “journalist” one would think you would be able to identify the gaping hole in your own logic as to why your vote is meaningless.

Sure, individually your vote would not have changed the outcome of the election one way or the other, but if you calculate the different in votes in your county, and multiply that number by the price of the ipod touch… then I guess it is possible to buy an election….

Anyway, despite thye tone of my comment, I am a big fan of your articles, and this site… I just think you may have suffered a blunt force trauma to the head before typing this article :)

Hey, if I buy you an Oqo, can I have all your social security checks when you retire?

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