Comments on: Rant: I want you to die, Leopard

By: v&p*

v&p* — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:15:02 +0000

i have had similar problems with leopard. the best part about the entire process was when i went to the apple store at the bullring in birmingham and asked one of the employees why my machine has now crashed 3 times in the past month while running leopard and he replied with “You must be unlucky.” personally, the only “unlucky” part of my story is/was that i bought leopard when my tiger install, from the day i purchased my macbook in 2006, never kernel panicked once!

once again, when will apple go back to making computers? the answer to that question is or can be at the very least, when they stop making ipods.

By: jmcd

jmcd — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:04:05 +0000

I’m going to write again. Sorry for all the posts, but to aid in the problem, I have repaired the disk, repaired permissions, and performed fsck repeatedly, with no change in the problem.

By: jmcd

jmcd — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:57:23 +0000

Oops. Didn’t read the last post before me. Though, the previous comment said they could not use Ethernet either, where as I am able to connect via Ethernet, and my computer freezes and must be restarted when Airport is turned on.

By: jmcd

jmcd — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:55:41 +0000

My problem happened about 2 weeks after upgrading to Leopard. I upgraded both my wife’s and my iBook G4’s. 1.33 GHz. The last run of the 12 inch iBooks. Leopard should run on them, and there have been no problems *knock on wood* with my wife’s laptop. Mine however is a completely different story. I can no longer log onto Airport. I can use the internet with Ethernet, but not with Airport. The moment I turn Airport on the computer freezes and an image of the power button is displayed telling me I need to restart my computer. I checked the error logs and it says it is having trouble with the Airport driver. I upgraded both computers using a clean install and am glad the one is working. The other is not and I figure it is best to return my laptop to Tiger until an Airport patch is released. Anybody else have a similar problem with Airport on Leopard? I know it can be buggy on Tiger, but I never had any complaints with either of our computers.

By: Kathy

Kathy — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:21:57 +0000

After upgrading to leopard has anyone had trouble w/airport extreme on iBook G4. Airport would not work/was not seen, could not even get on internet with ethernet, said I was not connected. Re-installed Tiger and immediately had internet access w/’airport extreme card. Any one else experience this? Any suggestions if I decide to re-install leapord??

Thanks
Kathy

By: Ian

Ian — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:32:13 +0000

I’ve had real problems with Leopard on my MacBook.

In the month that i’ve had it, it’s crashed my comp about 4-5 times. Time machine took a whole day to get working as their seems to be a bug in how Disk Utility formats external drives pre-formatted with FAT (solution: parition the drive, erase won’t work).

Apple Mail is buggy and didn’t sync well with Gmail. Everytime i opened Mail it would pop >300 mail messiages! Eventually solvled that issue.

Leopard also crashed while running Skype, but that may have been a skype issue. But still, Leopard shouldn’t just die like that.

We’ll see how long this lasts.

By: geez

geez — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:45:13 +0000

agreed.

By: blah

blah — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:29:40 +0000

Peter Ha is a piece of shit

By: Anonymous Coward

Anonymous Coward — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:51:42 +0000

Who is this Peter Ha and why can he not tell the difference between a hardware and operating system problem? Some people should not be permitted to use computers.

By: Rhassinger

Rhassinger — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:45:25 +0000

“Why does my keyboard not respond half the time? It’s because Leopard is a piece of shit. It thrills me to know that my MB’s keyboard could go at any time. I guess I won’t make my living now.”

Someone actually pays you to write? Good gawd.

By: PFFXV

PFFXV — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:36:22 +0000

I’m ready to upgrade my two home computers — to Tiger. There are two reasons for the wait: money and bugs. By now, I can safely assume that all the kinks have been worked out. Tiger has worked flawlessly on my Powerbook since 10.4.5. Now that I can buy Tiger for $15, I’m ready to make the jump. I’ll probably wait till 10.6 arrives before I upgrade to 10.5. Then again, Leopard may not be ready. For now, Leopard is unofficially a “dog.”

By: Roberto

Roberto — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:11:01 +0000

It’s good to know that just because YOU don’t have a problem with it, then anyone who does is an idiot. Turds.

By: laz

laz — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:39:20 +0000

No problems in my reality. I have installed Leopard on 5 Macs, including a G4 iBook, G4 Powerbook (Aluminum), G5 iMac, Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook and an Intel Core Duo Macbook Pro. Each install went flawlessly and each machine is running problem free. For me it has been at least as stable as Tiger. Of note though, I did update all my third party software first, before installing Leopard.

All these ranting tech writers with Leopard issues is a little suspicious don’t you think? They can’t all be idiots can they?

By: Intruder

Intruder — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:19:22 +0000

Going to the startup disk preference pane and telling the machine where the startup OS folder is will probably get rid of the flashing question mark.

The rest of this “rant” doesn’t match my experience with Leopard at all. I have 5 machines running it with nary a problem. These range from G4 iBooks to G5s, Macbooks and Macbook Pros.

By: kboggs

kboggs — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:51:30 +0000

No big probes here and I’ve had t running on several systems since October. It runs better and faster than Tiger ever did. I’d say you must have something else gumming up your system.

By: roz

roz — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:20:41 +0000

“Another option if the catalog is damaged is to back up everything off the drive, do a clean install and then put stuff back.”

opps meant:

Another option if the catalog is damaged is to back up everything off the drive, **reformat the drive**, do a clean install and then put stuff back.

By: roz

roz — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:19:04 +0000

Sounds like you have a hard drive problem not an OS problem. So far none of the machines I have been using Leo on have had major hard disk breaking issues.

Do you hear the hd reading and writing a lot?

You may be making a mistake to misdirect a problem with your disk at the OS and the could be that you fail to catch the problem before you lose a lot of data.

Have you tried to test the drive with Disk Utilities? Does it pass the drive test? If it doesn’t, no amount of reinstalls will help. If it does not pass you need Disk Warrior and to rebuild the disk catalog. http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/

Another option if the catalog is damaged is to back up everything off the drive, do a clean install and then put stuff back.

What does the Smart Disk indicator say? That can tell you if your drive is close to failing. If does not say “Verified” or your drive sounds at all abnormal the best thing to do is to buy a new drive, put it in the computer and then transfer your old stuff from your old drive to the new one. Do this before the drive totally fails, when this would be a total lose of data.

By: Peter Ha

Peter Ha — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:54:54 +0000

@chadi

This is not a review. “rant”

By: Hardware

Hardware — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:01:48 +0000

The flashing question mark comes on *before* the OS loads. You have a hardware problem. OS installs / upgrades (on any machine) can expose hardware problems that already exist - under Tiger, key OS components would be in the hotfiles cluster of HD - that part of the disk might be working fine, but the part where the OS is nominally installed might not.

Either way, your experience is nothing like what I’ve seen.

By: chadi

chadi — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:55:44 +0000

LOL. This is the funniest, if not poorest-written Leopard review I’ve read yet.