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	<title>Comments on: Helio&#8217;s Ocean granted hot new native YouTube app; Downloads and Uploads now both totally mobile</title>
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		<title>By: BOLTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOLTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DON'T GO THROUGH THE HEART ACHE JUST GO THROUGH VERIZON OR SPRINT IF YOU7 HAVE SOME QUESTION HIT ME UP AT kn4ve84@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DON&#8217;T GO THROUGH THE HEART ACHE JUST GO THROUGH VERIZON OR SPRINT IF YOU7 HAVE SOME QUESTION HIT ME UP AT <a href="mailto:kn4ve84@yahoo.com">kn4ve84@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: BOLTS</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/12/12/helios-ocean-granted-hot-new-native-youtube-app-downloads-and-uploads-now-both-totally-mobile/#comment-558424</link>
		<dc:creator>BOLTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll let you guys know i owned a helio ocean for a little over 15 days it had problems. My phone would receive calls while idle aka black screen. when i tried to replace it under warrienty i went through three tech support people all making do the same things, take my battery out, then reprogram my phone then when that didn't work hard reset, and after that didn't the tech support dushe told me that i had to pay 50 dollars to replace my phone through my phone insurance. mind you i owned the phone for 15 days. so when i asked about a warrinty exchange the guy wanted to go through the three tests again. thats when i cancelled my phone when i went to get my refund on my phone they took 50 dollars off my refund for restocking. theres more but i want to keep it directed towards the phone itself. also while i was waiting for my refund another guy was getting a refund and too others had promblems with thier oceans glitching and a friend who has the phone calls people and 50% of the people she calls never receive her call. overall helio and thier phones get a 1 out of 5 and thats only cause 0 out of five is to harsh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll let you guys know i owned a helio ocean for a little over 15 days it had problems. My phone would receive calls while idle aka black screen. when i tried to replace it under warrienty i went through three tech support people all making do the same things, take my battery out, then reprogram my phone then when that didn&#8217;t work hard reset, and after that didn&#8217;t the tech support dushe told me that i had to pay 50 dollars to replace my phone through my phone insurance. mind you i owned the phone for 15 days. so when i asked about a warrinty exchange the guy wanted to go through the three tests again. thats when i cancelled my phone when i went to get my refund on my phone they took 50 dollars off my refund for restocking. theres more but i want to keep it directed towards the phone itself. also while i was waiting for my refund another guy was getting a refund and too others had promblems with thier oceans glitching and a friend who has the phone calls people and 50% of the people she calls never receive her call. overall helio and thier phones get a 1 out of 5 and thats only cause 0 out of five is to harsh.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ringfield</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/12/12/helios-ocean-granted-hot-new-native-youtube-app-downloads-and-uploads-now-both-totally-mobile/#comment-543199</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ringfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The YouTube App is very nice.  It blows the iphone away because you can actually stream the video in real time versus having to wait for it prebuffer.  It's like comparing dialup to broadband.  Some of the deals like www.heliobuy.com is prepackaging this application with the Ocean. 

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The YouTube App is very nice.  It blows the iphone away because you can actually stream the video in real time versus having to wait for it prebuffer.  It&#8217;s like comparing dialup to broadband.  Some of the deals like <a href="http://www.heliobuy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.heliobuy.com</a> is prepackaging this application with the Ocean. </p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: bpm2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>bpm2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave - Word.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the Ocean, downloaded YouTube and I have yet to view a full video as it continues to timeout.  Not liking this application yet, it hurts because I was really looking forward to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Ocean, downloaded YouTube and I have yet to view a full video as it continues to timeout.  Not liking this application yet, it hurts because I was really looking forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bpm2000 --- If you paid more for an inferior product and you're an image conscious person to begin with (Apple's are purty) you have to tell yourself something to not feel like a fool.  Substance &#62; Style</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bpm2000 &#8212; If you paid more for an inferior product and you&#8217;re an image conscious person to begin with (Apple&#8217;s are purty) you have to tell yourself something to not feel like a fool.  Substance &gt; Style</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just downloaded the You-Tube app and it rocks!  Soooo glad I went with the Helio Ocean over anything else out there, this phone is fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just downloaded the You-Tube app and it rocks!  Soooo glad I went with the Helio Ocean over anything else out there, this phone is fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Risket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Risket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes WiFi beats 3G.... however 3G beats EDGE and when my girlfriend and I are driving from Las Vegas to Newport Beach or elsewhere in California for a vacation there are no WiFi spots in the middle of the desert during about 250 of those miles from here to there.... but that wouldn't matter too much anyway would it? Seeing as how iPhone doesn't have GPS capabilities.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Apple and their products. The past few years I've been working on replacing all of my Windows computers with Apple's computers. However I think they could have done a LOT better with the iPhone. I also don't want to run around searching for a WiFi hot spot. My girlfriends sister recently got the iPod Touch and I had to wireless network her house just to use the best of it. My point is: Yes WiFi is great, but trying to find out isn't so fun.... and trying to find one you are allowed to connect to (that isn't private) is even more annoying. It's like someone waving a steak in front of you and just as you go to bite down you realize you're behind three inches of glass.

Apple's iPhone has many great features but before I go out and spend $400 on a device I need to be damn certain I'm actually going to be able to use it when I need it.

Which is why I'm getting the Helio Ocean as soon as my Verizon contract is up in a few months. Maybe, just maybe, by the time THAT contract is up two years from now the iPhone will have come a long way (and the price dropped a few more times).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes WiFi beats 3G&#8230;. however 3G beats EDGE and when my girlfriend and I are driving from Las Vegas to Newport Beach or elsewhere in California for a vacation there are no WiFi spots in the middle of the desert during about 250 of those miles from here to there&#8230;. but that wouldn&#8217;t matter too much anyway would it? Seeing as how iPhone doesn&#8217;t have GPS capabilities.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m a huge fan of Apple and their products. The past few years I&#8217;ve been working on replacing all of my Windows computers with Apple&#8217;s computers. However I think they could have done a LOT better with the iPhone. I also don&#8217;t want to run around searching for a WiFi hot spot. My girlfriends sister recently got the iPod Touch and I had to wireless network her house just to use the best of it. My point is: Yes WiFi is great, but trying to find out isn&#8217;t so fun&#8230;. and trying to find one you are allowed to connect to (that isn&#8217;t private) is even more annoying. It&#8217;s like someone waving a steak in front of you and just as you go to bite down you realize you&#8217;re behind three inches of glass.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s iPhone has many great features but before I go out and spend $400 on a device I need to be damn certain I&#8217;m actually going to be able to use it when I need it.</p>
<p>Which is why I&#8217;m getting the Helio Ocean as soon as my Verizon contract is up in a few months. Maybe, just maybe, by the time THAT contract is up two years from now the iPhone will have come a long way (and the price dropped a few more times).</p>
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		<title>By: Applecrap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Applecrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate iphone fanboys!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate iphone fanboys!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bpm2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>bpm2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do all the iphone fanboys always clamor about wifi&#62;3G?  Do you live in the boondocks or something?  In any metro city 3G&#62;wifi.  I'm not running around tryin to find a hotspot - it comes to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do all the iphone fanboys always clamor about wifi&gt;3G?  Do you live in the boondocks or something?  In any metro city 3G&gt;wifi.  I&#8217;m not running around tryin to find a hotspot - it comes to me.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt
Glad I had to read the comments to find that out. Any ways wifi beats 3G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt<br />
Glad I had to read the comments to find that out. Any ways wifi beats 3G</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeremy: dude, it lets you upload to YouTube as well. iPhone can't do that. Thus it's better by a wide margin. In addition, it's on a 3G network, not a silly 2.5G EDGE connection, so you don't have to hound around for a hotspot to get your fix. I get the feeling that you're a big iPhone fan not wanting to see that the emporer has no clothes. Or a video cameras. C'mon, dude, get cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeremy: dude, it lets you upload to YouTube as well. iPhone can&#8217;t do that. Thus it&#8217;s better by a wide margin. In addition, it&#8217;s on a 3G network, not a silly 2.5G EDGE connection, so you don&#8217;t have to hound around for a hotspot to get your fix. I get the feeling that you&#8217;re a big iPhone fan not wanting to see that the emporer has no clothes. Or a video cameras. C&#8217;mon, dude, get cynical.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad article (written by teenager?)

You have an entire article here premised on the fact that the Ocean app "blows the iPhone app away" or whatever, but you never say why.  

Here's a tip.  

You can't just write junk you feel and call it a review.  

You have to be objective, logical, and have an actual argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad article (written by teenager?)</p>
<p>You have an entire article here premised on the fact that the Ocean app &#8220;blows the iPhone app away&#8221; or whatever, but you never say why.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a tip.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t just write junk you feel and call it a review.  </p>
<p>You have to be objective, logical, and have an actual argument.</p>
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		<title>By: UncleFunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleFunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god that device is ugly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god that device is ugly!</p>
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		<title>By: bpm2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>bpm2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vid quality still goes to iphone but the feature set is very nice.  - i am getting all kinds of buffering errors right now tho - hopefully they will iron out in a few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vid quality still goes to iphone but the feature set is very nice.  - i am getting all kinds of buffering errors right now tho - hopefully they will iron out in a few days.</p>
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