Comments on: Hack the MacBook to have multi-touch, win an iPod Touch http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:52:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: dumboi http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-730699 dumboi Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:17:41 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-730699 This was extracted from Synaptics driver: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version 11.0.0 02/11/2008 (Win2K/WinXP/Vista) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Features -Added a hardware lock to prevent advanced gestures, Chiral, Pinch and Momentum for now, from running on standard TouchPads. Bug Fixes -Added a missing parenthesis that caused the release version of the driver to not have chiral enabled. -Fixed setting of bounceback. -Fix for hotkeys for Chiral and Momentum translation in RC This was extracted from Synaptics driver:

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Version 11.0.0 02/11/2008 (Win2K/WinXP/Vista)
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New Features
-Added a hardware lock to prevent advanced gestures, Chiral, Pinch and
Momentum for now, from running on standard TouchPads.

Bug Fixes
-Added a missing parenthesis that caused the release version of the driver
to not have chiral enabled.
-Fixed setting of bounceback.
-Fix for hotkeys for Chiral and Momentum translation in RC

]]> By: killerener99 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-706634 killerener99 Sat, 24 May 2008 02:01:37 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-706634 drdrew 1 don't be a pussy 2 it's not necessarily hacking it's just making a third party driver which is like making a third party program which is legal drdrew 1 don’t be a pussy 2 it’s not necessarily hacking it’s just making a third party driver which is like making a third party program which is legal

]]> By: Jason http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-646336 Jason Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:43:02 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-646336 Personally, I can do without the pinching and pulling for zooming in and out. I imagine that would be more difficult to create a hack for those functions. HOWEVER, I do think that there must be a way to create a hack that would enable swiping... it doesn't even have to be a 3 finger swipe. For example, one might try doing a "double tap" using two fingers, but the second tap would be in a sweep left or right motion. The mac trackpad allows you to scroll left and right using two fingers on the trackpad already, so theoretically it should be possible to program the macbook to recognize a two-finger swipe to go backwards and forwards in programs like Safari or iPhoto. C'mon hackers! Get on it!!! Personally, I can do without the pinching and pulling for zooming in and out. I imagine that would be more difficult to create a hack for those functions. HOWEVER, I do think that there must be a way to create a hack that would enable swiping… it doesn’t even have to be a 3 finger swipe. For example, one might try doing a “double tap” using two fingers, but the second tap would be in a sweep left or right motion. The mac trackpad allows you to scroll left and right using two fingers on the trackpad already, so theoretically it should be possible to program the macbook to recognize a two-finger swipe to go backwards and forwards in programs like Safari or iPhoto.

C’mon hackers! Get on it!!!

]]> By: Ian Dean http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-617545 Ian Dean Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:20:31 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-617545 There are people using Linux on Intel Macbooks. They have a driver for the touchpad that recognizes three finger touches, and they use it as a middle click. This means there is certainly more capability in the touchpad for existing models, via software alone. Whether the touchpad can understand the movement of individual finger movements (ie, Zoom, and rotate) is another question altogether. This maybe where the chip comes in. Alternatively maybe it's possible without the chip, but apple wanted to preserve CPU processing power so decided to do it via hardware. You can read more about it here, ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-b0c1214684daee45c97d31d9113d7719accdf060 ), just click the link on the right that say's "RIGHT/MIDDLE CLICKING", to take you to the area. Personally, i'd be happy just to get a middle click. There is a driver hack for this, from Sidekick ( http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/index.html ) where you assign corners of the trackpad into alternative buttons, which is quite useful for expose and dashboard too. But this obviously isn't a multi-touch action and the driver also looses the 2 finger right click as well as the 2 finger scrolling and puts it to the edge of the pad, which I really don't like. The pad also becomes very very unresponsive and doesn't seem to work in the same way at all. Infact, the pro's don't touch the con's so I wouldn't go near sidekick with a barge pole, unless they fix its many many problems. I'd actually advice them to start again. Why oh why did they change it completely... We want it unehanced... not demoted to a sluggish PC trackpad! Anyway, where is the hacking community, I thought someone would have at least half solved this via software alone by now? Although I think an iPod touch is a bit pathetic for the amount of work involved. There are people using Linux on Intel Macbooks. They have a driver for the touchpad that recognizes three finger touches, and they use it as a middle click. This means there is certainly more capability in the touchpad for existing models, via software alone. Whether the touchpad can understand the movement of individual finger movements (ie, Zoom, and rotate) is another question altogether. This maybe where the chip comes in. Alternatively maybe it’s possible without the chip, but apple wanted to preserve CPU processing power so decided to do it via hardware. You can read more about it here, ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-b0c1214684daee45c97d31d9113d7719accdf060 ), just click the link on the right that say’s “RIGHT/MIDDLE CLICKING”, to take you to the area.

Personally, i’d be happy just to get a middle click. There is a driver hack for this, from Sidekick ( http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/index.html ) where you assign corners of the trackpad into alternative buttons, which is quite useful for expose and dashboard too. But this obviously isn’t a multi-touch action and the driver also looses the 2 finger right click as well as the 2 finger scrolling and puts it to the edge of the pad, which I really don’t like. The pad also becomes very very unresponsive and doesn’t seem to work in the same way at all. Infact, the pro’s don’t touch the con’s so I wouldn’t go near sidekick with a barge pole, unless they fix its many many problems. I’d actually advice them to start again. Why oh why did they change it completely… We want it unehanced… not demoted to a sluggish PC trackpad!

Anyway, where is the hacking community, I thought someone would have at least half solved this via software alone by now? Although I think an iPod touch is a bit pathetic for the amount of work involved.

]]> By: Leopard http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602924 Leopard Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:00:37 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602924 I dont care, I just want Multi Touch!!!!. Apple bein an a** by not making the MBP track pad as big as the MBA and by not brining down the MTouch to MB. Damn. And Im still amazed that there is no magnetic latch for the MBP. Comon, someone please make a software that will enable Merom MacBook users to use multi touch!!! I dont care, I just want Multi Touch!!!!. Apple bein an a** by not making the MBP track pad as big as the MBA and by not brining down the MTouch to MB. Damn.

And Im still amazed that there is no magnetic latch for the MBP.

Comon, someone please make a software that will enable Merom MacBook users to use multi touch!!!

]]> By: Nabeelco http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602329 Nabeelco Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:17:45 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602329 Um... Hacking is NOT illegal. You own the hardware, your not stealing anything, it's all your own work. How is that illegal? Cracking on the other hand, Cracking being: breaking into computer systems or using code that does not belong to you, is in fact illegal. There is not a single law against hacking. Um… Hacking is NOT illegal. You own the hardware, your not stealing anything, it’s all your own work. How is that illegal?

Cracking on the other hand, Cracking being: breaking into computer systems or using code that does not belong to you, is in fact illegal.

There is not a single law against hacking.

]]> By: Mr. Sweaty Hands http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602085 Mr. Sweaty Hands Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:36:05 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602085 Hey, don't make the trackpad bigger! My hands get hot because Apple doesn't run the fan fast enough, and the system doesn't sleep/wake properly if I use Fan Control. A bigger trackpad means my giant, overheated, sweaty hands will be accidentally in contact with the trackpad that much more. Hey my last powerbook had a smaller trackpad than my macbook pro. This is big enough, dammit! Hey, don’t make the trackpad bigger!

My hands get hot because Apple doesn’t run the fan fast enough, and the system doesn’t sleep/wake properly if I use Fan Control.

A bigger trackpad means my giant, overheated, sweaty hands will be accidentally in contact with the trackpad that much more.

Hey my last powerbook had a smaller trackpad than my macbook pro. This is big enough, dammit!

]]> By: why http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602027 why Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:17:22 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-602027 why would someone make this so they can make millions off of it... for a louzy ipod touch, they couldnt even bump it up to an iphone, go suk a dik. why would someone make this so they can make millions off of it… for a louzy ipod touch, they couldnt even bump it up to an iphone, go suk a dik.

]]> By: Rambo http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-601318 Rambo Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:57:20 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-601318 Ask big companies how much money they're making with Linux and the hackers that write the code and rev eng Win and Mac get $0. Ask big companies how much money they’re making with Linux and the hackers that write the code and rev eng Win and Mac get $0.

]]> By: Rambo http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-601316 Rambo Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:55:57 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-601316 Everybody knows that. They hack and somebody else gets the money. Everybody knows that. They hack and somebody else gets the money.

]]> By: drdrew http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-600972 drdrew Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:34:07 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-600972 only as "spanky ham", why did i miss something? like the way you missed sarcasm? only as “spanky ham”, why did i miss something? like the way you missed sarcasm?

]]> By: jj550 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-600934 jj550 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:54:50 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-600934 that's a dumbass comment ... you really miss adam carolla, don't you? that’s a dumbass comment … you really miss adam carolla, don’t you?

]]> By: drdrew http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/28/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-600918 drdrew Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:29:24 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/27/why-doesnt-the-macbook-pro-have-the-airs-trackpad-win-an-ipod-touch/#comment-600918 But hacking is illegal. And the exchanging of goods for illegal services is illegal too! Does that make the hackers whores?! But hacking is illegal. And the exchanging of goods for illegal services is illegal too! Does that make the hackers whores?!

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