Comments on: Professor: The iPhone will destroy the Internet! http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:33:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: JZ http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-654004 JZ Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:21:50 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-654004 Danno - I see it as the opposite! The iPhone SDK only lets the software people create to be distributed through the iPhone Apps store. Steve Jobs reserves the right to reject any software, and can retroactively kill apps. (This has its benefits -- but it's not very open/generative.) Windows, like other PC OSes, allows any software to be written and distributed without any intervention or permission from Microsoft. Google's Android platform promises to be different -- much more like a PC. We'll see how it does. ...JZ Danno - I see it as the opposite! The iPhone SDK only lets the software people create to be distributed through the iPhone Apps store. Steve Jobs reserves the right to reject any software, and can retroactively kill apps. (This has its benefits — but it’s not very open/generative.) Windows, like other PC OSes, allows any software to be written and distributed without any intervention or permission from Microsoft. Google’s Android platform promises to be different — much more like a PC. We’ll see how it does. …JZ

]]> By: Danno Bonano http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-650955 Danno Bonano Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:16:26 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-650955 By the way, how does the iPhone being "closed" off (which it now ISN'T thanks to the SDK) affect the internet? For Pete's Sake, WINDOWS is CLOSED off. How does that affect the Internet? Safari's webkit is open to all. I just fail to see any material point to this story. Please think before you write about something like this. At least make some form of argument for your subject. PLUS, the iPhone has OPENED the mobile world to the real Internet. GEEZ MAN, please think. Please. By the way, how does the iPhone being “closed” off (which it now ISN’T thanks to the SDK) affect the internet?

For Pete’s Sake, WINDOWS is CLOSED off. How does that affect the Internet? Safari’s webkit is open to all. I just fail to see any material point to this story.

Please think before you write about something like this. At least make some form of argument for your subject.

PLUS, the iPhone has OPENED the mobile world to the real Internet. GEEZ MAN, please think. Please.

]]> By: Danno Bonano http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-650951 Danno Bonano Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:13:17 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-650951 Come on. I need to code different for IE/Firefox/Safari. I would say the "professor" is being closed minding by closing off the internet to mobile devices. And the Safari browser isn't closed off. Duh professor. It just requires a new interface for using it (touch). Come on. This is drivel and crap. It's just like saying Vista will destroy the PC world. Or fuel cells will destroy the automobile world. Seriously man! These things only make it better. Please use that noggin of yours! Come on. I need to code different for IE/Firefox/Safari. I would say the “professor” is being closed minding by closing off the internet to mobile devices.

And the Safari browser isn’t closed off. Duh professor. It just requires a new interface for using it (touch). Come on. This is drivel and crap. It’s just like saying Vista will destroy the PC world. Or fuel cells will destroy the automobile world. Seriously man!

These things only make it better. Please use that noggin of yours!

]]> By: Alasdair Allan http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-650492 Alasdair Allan Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:43:19 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-650492 That's just nonsense. What about cheap microprocessor boards like the Arduino? Getting embedded devices to talk to each other is getting much, much, easier. Not harder. You're making the mistake of thinking that the Web is the Internet, it isn't. Web sites will die off in the exact same way Gopher did, unlike Gopher they'll probably hang around in a half life existence like FTP as "just part of the infrastructure" but they won't be seen as the Internet anymore. The Web is just one more passing thing, the Internet will live on... That’s just nonsense. What about cheap microprocessor boards like the Arduino? Getting embedded devices to talk to each other is getting much, much, easier. Not harder. You’re making the mistake of thinking that the Web is the Internet, it isn’t. Web sites will die off in the exact same way Gopher did, unlike Gopher they’ll probably hang around in a half life existence like FTP as “just part of the infrastructure” but they won’t be seen as the Internet anymore. The Web is just one more passing thing, the Internet will live on…

]]> By: m http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-650284 m Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:04:35 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-650284 update: professor also says those dang bee gees are ruining music, and get off my lawn update: professor also says those dang bee gees are ruining music, and get off my lawn

]]> By: Christian Decker http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-650191 Christian Decker Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:15:53 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-650191 Sad as it is I have to agree with your professor because I see so many iPhone/iTouch specific websites that won't work on other browsers, as nice as they are it makes maintaining an website a really hard issue for a growing, yet small community of users. sent from: fav.or.it [FID248709] Sad as it is I have to agree with your professor because I see so many iPhone/iTouch specific websites that won’t work on other browsers, as nice as they are it makes maintaining an website a really hard issue for a growing, yet small community of users.

sent from: fav.or.it [FID248709]

]]> By: Whiskey http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-650161 Whiskey Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:14:36 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-650161 The farmer in India cannot afford an iPhone. Most informative websites have RSS feeds that can be accessed from some phones... Cloud-only apps are not that great, not even with Gears and/or Prism. They are really useful and cool, just not at the iPhone (or any other phone for that matter). Webmasters can (and should) make their APIs available so a developer could make a program that interfaces directly to them (you know, like youtube). I would also like to point out another closed product that's a headache to develop for because most of the time it gets things wrong... IE is still a PAIN to work with but this hasn't stopped development of the Internet. The important thing is that clever people always find a way around limitations. The farmer in India cannot afford an iPhone. Most informative websites have RSS feeds that can be accessed from some phones…

Cloud-only apps are not that great, not even with Gears and/or Prism. They are really useful and cool, just not at the iPhone (or any other phone for that matter).

Webmasters can (and should) make their APIs available so a developer could make a program that interfaces directly to them (you know, like youtube).

I would also like to point out another closed product that’s a headache to develop for because most of the time it gets things wrong… IE is still a PAIN to work with but this hasn’t stopped development of the Internet.

The important thing is that clever people always find a way around limitations.

]]> By: CTI97 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-649983 CTI97 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:18:14 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-649983 I still search for a phone with a good enough display and full internet browser, like a PC has. Didn't find one yet, but didn't givve up the hope that maybe, one day ... I still search for a phone with a good enough display and full internet browser, like a PC has. Didn’t find one yet, but didn’t givve up the hope that maybe, one day …

]]> By: LastGiantRobot http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/10/professor-the-iphone-will-destroy-the-internet/#comment-649946 LastGiantRobot Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:46:46 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=24522#comment-649946 What exactly is "better"? What this professor calls a limitation may simply be a streamlining of ergonomics and interface. I do not need to be able to access Google Apps from my xbox and I am perfectly happy not having to pay for that extra capability to be built into it. I think the professors opinion may simply be an elitist fear of the worlds greatest sandbox no longer being so prolific and available. For him, since he has the skills and leisure time that most of the worlds populations does not, the internet is the goose that lays the golden eggs. He can use it to write innovative programs that in order to program his tivo from work or make awesome lol catz pics. But to a farmer in the middle of rural India, he does not need to be able to edit javascript or display his leet photoshop skillz, he just needs a dumb console that displays wheat and rice prices and weather reports, or better yet, just have it beamed to his cellphone if he has one. What exactly is “better”? What this professor calls a limitation may simply be a streamlining of ergonomics and interface. I do not need to be able to access Google Apps from my xbox and I am perfectly happy not having to pay for that extra capability to be built into it. I think the professors opinion may simply be an elitist fear of the worlds greatest sandbox no longer being so prolific and available. For him, since he has the skills and leisure time that most of the worlds populations does not, the internet is the goose that lays the golden eggs. He can use it to write innovative programs that in order to program his tivo from work or make awesome lol catz pics. But to a farmer in the middle of rural India, he does not need to be able to edit javascript or display his leet photoshop skillz, he just needs a dumb console that displays wheat and rice prices and weather reports, or better yet, just have it beamed to his cellphone if he has one.

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