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	<title>Comments on: GTA IV ads pulled from Chicago buses under pressure from Fox News</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GTA Quiz</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-685246</link>
		<dc:creator>GTA Quiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for sakes it was just a video game why on earth did they pull i dont understand US politics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for sakes it was just a video game why on earth did they pull i dont understand US politics</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-676709</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Interesting that Fox News questioned the advertisement isn't it? Well, not really when you realize that in GTA IV, there is a news station called Weasel News which is obviously made to make fun of Fox News and its horribly conservative and biased material.

It's funny how everyone who vilifies this game hasn't even played it yet. What's even better is that despite these constant attacks on video games, there is no evidence that video games cause violence. Not even a correlation. How can you claim that a kid is violent because he played a video game when there are millions and millions of kids that play this game. I bet you would have a better chance arguing that violence correlates to Sunny Delight. Hell, all that High fructose corn syrup can't be good for anybody. 

I got an idea, look abusive family members or bad parenting and see how THOSE relate to kid violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Interesting that Fox News questioned the advertisement isn&#8217;t it? Well, not really when you realize that in GTA IV, there is a news station called Weasel News which is obviously made to make fun of Fox News and its horribly conservative and biased material.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how everyone who vilifies this game hasn&#8217;t even played it yet. What&#8217;s even better is that despite these constant attacks on video games, there is no evidence that video games cause violence. Not even a correlation. How can you claim that a kid is violent because he played a video game when there are millions and millions of kids that play this game. I bet you would have a better chance arguing that violence correlates to Sunny Delight. Hell, all that High fructose corn syrup can&#8217;t be good for anybody. </p>
<p>I got an idea, look abusive family members or bad parenting and see how THOSE relate to kid violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Baccarat</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-670666</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Baccarat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous.

Violence in real life is ok but video game fake fun is not?

Moronic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Violence in real life is ok but video game fake fun is not?</p>
<p>Moronic.</p>
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		<title>By: 1st Time Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-669990</link>
		<dc:creator>1st Time Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the issue with "promoting" or approving of fake violence.  I would reply with "What about motion pictures?"  Many are violent yet they are readily advertised on buses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the issue with &#8220;promoting&#8221; or approving of fake violence.  I would reply with &#8220;What about motion pictures?&#8221;  Many are violent yet they are readily advertised on buses</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. T</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-669719</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many Fox news articles cover violence and pornography, which are of equal or more harm than modern video games.  Fox tries to appeal to a younger crowd the same as the GTA developers.  It smells like hypocrisy to me.

As a side note, GTA could certainly do without the pornography and bad language.  I used to be a huge fan until they started pushing that further.  Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many Fox news articles cover violence and pornography, which are of equal or more harm than modern video games.  Fox tries to appeal to a younger crowd the same as the GTA developers.  It smells like hypocrisy to me.</p>
<p>As a side note, GTA could certainly do without the pornography and bad language.  I used to be a huge fan until they started pushing that further.  Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: CineGamr</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668860</link>
		<dc:creator>CineGamr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up, the news has been given a free pass to be as sensationalistic in regards to violence. They make money by selling unfiltered violence and sex to viewers - how is that not subject to censorship?

They can talk about gruesome murders and vivid details of sexual molestation/rape cases without having any impunity and without having to censor it - the can show all sorts of acts at any time of the day (remember the news comes on in the morning, lunchtime, afternoon and at night - all of which air the same rough content and are not changed besides a casual edit or two to update the facts).

The bible is violent, and that's passed around without censorship - if you want to censor video games, then subject other mediums to it as well. 

http://www.cinegamr.uni.cc - a library of video game cinematics, check it out and see for yourself that even video games with rampant violence are more responsible then other mediums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up, the news has been given a free pass to be as sensationalistic in regards to violence. They make money by selling unfiltered violence and sex to viewers - how is that not subject to censorship?</p>
<p>They can talk about gruesome murders and vivid details of sexual molestation/rape cases without having any impunity and without having to censor it - the can show all sorts of acts at any time of the day (remember the news comes on in the morning, lunchtime, afternoon and at night - all of which air the same rough content and are not changed besides a casual edit or two to update the facts).</p>
<p>The bible is violent, and that&#8217;s passed around without censorship - if you want to censor video games, then subject other mediums to it as well. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cinegamr.uni.cc" rel="nofollow">http://www.cinegamr.uni.cc</a> - a library of video game cinematics, check it out and see for yourself that even video games with rampant violence are more responsible then other mediums.</p>
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		<title>By: tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668621</link>
		<dc:creator>tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fail to see the point. All that stuff you listed on fox news is real violence protrayed as real violence with real consequences. While GTA and video games make violence seem fun and of no real consequences. That is the difference. You don't want young children to get the sense that you can do those things with no real consequences.

With that being said I don't think the impact is that great and Fox news is going overboard. They should not pull the ads but they do have the right to pull them if they see fit. But come on Olly if you are gonna argue against something atleast get an understanding of where they are coming from first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fail to see the point. All that stuff you listed on fox news is real violence protrayed as real violence with real consequences. While GTA and video games make violence seem fun and of no real consequences. That is the difference. You don&#8217;t want young children to get the sense that you can do those things with no real consequences.</p>
<p>With that being said I don&#8217;t think the impact is that great and Fox news is going overboard. They should not pull the ads but they do have the right to pull them if they see fit. But come on Olly if you are gonna argue against something atleast get an understanding of where they are coming from first.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor The Troll</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668585</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor The Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey they might be declaring Martial Law next week! I wonder if this Hoopla has anything to do with the Sex messaging scandal by the Mayor? Or is that in another city?

Hard to follow the Sex science now days! It just happens everywhere. Time to go back to the 70s and Free Love Era!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey they might be declaring Martial Law next week! I wonder if this Hoopla has anything to do with the Sex messaging scandal by the Mayor? Or is that in another city?</p>
<p>Hard to follow the Sex science now days! It just happens everywhere. Time to go back to the 70s and Free Love Era!</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody's Business</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668569</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody's Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this city tried to Ban the original Manhunt as well as GTA: San Andreas.  Truly doesnt suprise me seeing the irony that we had over 20+ people shot between friday and saturday, yet they need to pull a GTA bus ad.  Our politicians have their heads up their arses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this city tried to Ban the original Manhunt as well as GTA: San Andreas.  Truly doesnt suprise me seeing the irony that we had over 20+ people shot between friday and saturday, yet they need to pull a GTA bus ad.  Our politicians have their heads up their arses.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668303</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guns don't kill people, rappers do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns don&#8217;t kill people, rappers do.</p>
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		<title>By: hsvdan</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668301</link>
		<dc:creator>hsvdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you libs are just a bit high from sniffing your own farts. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you libs are just a bit high from sniffing your own farts. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor The Troll</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668300</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor The Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, are you on the payroll of any of the parties concerned?  Now a days its hard to know who is who! You may want to declare it if you are. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, are you on the payroll of any of the parties concerned?  Now a days its hard to know who is who! You may want to declare it if you are. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: AMANDA</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668298</link>
		<dc:creator>AMANDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are they showing a picture of a bus from Grand Rapids, MI on an article for Chicago CTA busses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are they showing a picture of a bus from Grand Rapids, MI on an article for Chicago CTA busses?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668295</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chill out guys. Its not like Fox or the government is not allowing the game to be published. Chicago is just taking down advertisements for it because they don't agree with displaying that kind of content on their buses. You have the right to free speech, but companies have the right to choose what advertisements they run. You can't force someone or some company to display something. Its called property rights, and that's a fundamental freedom in America too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chill out guys. Its not like Fox or the government is not allowing the game to be published. Chicago is just taking down advertisements for it because they don&#8217;t agree with displaying that kind of content on their buses. You have the right to free speech, but companies have the right to choose what advertisements they run. You can&#8217;t force someone or some company to display something. Its called property rights, and that&#8217;s a fundamental freedom in America too.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor The Troll</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668271</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor The Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See how the neocon propaganda machine works.
http://tinyurl.com/4syz2b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See how the neocon propaganda machine works.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/4syz2b" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/4syz2b</a></p>
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		<title>By: Igor The Troll</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668251</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor The Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today it is a video game, tomorrow it maybe a writer, a book, or even a presidential candidate!

Free speech is free speech! Maybe it's time to care more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today it is a video game, tomorrow it maybe a writer, a book, or even a presidential candidate!</p>
<p>Free speech is free speech! Maybe it&#8217;s time to care more!</p>
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		<title>By: Yianni Pappas-Acreman</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668241</link>
		<dc:creator>Yianni Pappas-Acreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd care more, except it's just a videogame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d care more, except it&#8217;s just a videogame.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor The Troll</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668231</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor The Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, nice to see real parents still exist. ;-)

Fox news is just a neoconservatist propaganda machine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, nice to see real parents still exist. ;-)</p>
<p>Fox news is just a neoconservatist propaganda machine!</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668228</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fox, the city, its all just as stupid that it is being taken down. Typical band-aid thinking that some how taking down a video game ad will have any effect on gang violence. The only worse case of band-aid thinking here is that some how there was a correlation between gta and gang violence in the first place. Its seriously arrogant and condescending to assume that people are so mindless as to let a video game advertisement exacerbate gang problems.  Note to city officials: gangs are not caused by video games, so maybe take a look at the socioeconomic issues that got you there originally.  Band-aid politics in full effect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fox, the city, its all just as stupid that it is being taken down. Typical band-aid thinking that some how taking down a video game ad will have any effect on gang violence. The only worse case of band-aid thinking here is that some how there was a correlation between gta and gang violence in the first place. Its seriously arrogant and condescending to assume that people are so mindless as to let a video game advertisement exacerbate gang problems.  Note to city officials: gangs are not caused by video games, so maybe take a look at the socioeconomic issues that got you there originally.  Band-aid politics in full effect!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/21/gta-iv-ads-pulled-from-chicago-buses-under-pressure-from-fox-news/#comment-668227</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice. Fox News pulling another goofball move. Not surprising. Kids who behave  violently from playing video games have problems at home that are bigger than the games themselves. When will Fox News start acknowledging that parents are the problem? I have 3 kids and we are all gamers. They can only play age appropriate games, I limit their time so they do things like play outside, etc. and I treat them with respect and have rules. By the time they are old enough to play GTA in a couple years, they'll know it's a game and won't wonder why it's not OK to walk around downtown with a rocket launcher blowing up cars and people for fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice. Fox News pulling another goofball move. Not surprising. Kids who behave  violently from playing video games have problems at home that are bigger than the games themselves. When will Fox News start acknowledging that parents are the problem? I have 3 kids and we are all gamers. They can only play age appropriate games, I limit their time so they do things like play outside, etc. and I treat them with respect and have rules. By the time they are old enough to play GTA in a couple years, they&#8217;ll know it&#8217;s a game and won&#8217;t wonder why it&#8217;s not OK to walk around downtown with a rocket launcher blowing up cars and people for fun.</p>
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