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	<title>Comments on: Qwest to see how many suckers live in Minneapolis</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/qwest-to-see-how-many-suckers-live-in-minneapolis/comment-page-1/#comment-1091597</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except you&#039;re wrong. Qwest DSL with them as your ISP or not is slow.

You will not gain any additional speed by using Visi and could, in fact, lose speed as you are now running through an additional routing point (Visi&#039;s servers for example).

So, why don&#039;t YOU do a little research once in a while....or at least once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except you&#8217;re wrong. Qwest DSL with them as your ISP or not is slow.</p>
<p>You will not gain any additional speed by using Visi and could, in fact, lose speed as you are now running through an additional routing point (Visi&#8217;s servers for example).</p>
<p>So, why don&#8217;t YOU do a little research once in a while&#8230;.or at least once.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I would like to be able to use this review information but since it seems more emotional than factual there are some things to consider here.  First off, this is an ADSL2+ roll-out, this is not the same as the previous ADSL networks.  Adsl2+ operates on different frequencies and will have less issues with interference, it&#039;s really ADSL&#039;s fixes and replacement.  No mention of channel bonding in this review either.  So, I guess I am not sure whom your readers represent but if they are remotely in the know, you sort of sound like an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I would like to be able to use this review information but since it seems more emotional than factual there are some things to consider here.  First off, this is an ADSL2+ roll-out, this is not the same as the previous ADSL networks.  Adsl2+ operates on different frequencies and will have less issues with interference, it&#8217;s really ADSL&#8217;s fixes and replacement.  No mention of channel bonding in this review either.  So, I guess I am not sure whom your readers represent but if they are remotely in the know, you sort of sound like an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 02:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t try and play games from 3 to 7 on cable all your neighbors are using up the band width. one feed for your entire neighborhood! at least with qwest you get your own line and your full band width no matter how many people get on the web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t try and play games from 3 to 7 on cable all your neighbors are using up the band width. one feed for your entire neighborhood! at least with qwest you get your own line and your full band width no matter how many people get on the web</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Aamoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Aamoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had naked DSL. Qwest provides it. I had no ISP and no phone line.

VISI uses Qwest&#039;s circuits (Frontier&#039;s too, but just up to 2Mbps). The whole ISP part of the equation doesn&#039;t really matter. It&#039;s still Qwest DSL. The ISP part is mostly fluff. You get better customer service and maybe some more web space and some e-mail addresses.

VISI (great company by the way, nothing against them) offers DSL access of &quot;Up to 3-7Mbps&quot; down starting at around $40 per month for Qwest DSL service plus another $19.95 per month for VISI to act as your ISP. If you&#039;re getting sustained download speeds of 7Mbps, that&#039;s great. Most people aren&#039;t nearly as close to the DSLAM, though. 

My connection was slow enough and my ping rates were high enough that I couldn&#039;t use VOIP services or play online games reliably, so I switched back to cable. How much is your bill each month, if you don&#039;t mind sharing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had naked DSL. Qwest provides it. I had no ISP and no phone line.</p>
<p>VISI uses Qwest&#8217;s circuits (Frontier&#8217;s too, but just up to 2Mbps). The whole ISP part of the equation doesn&#8217;t really matter. It&#8217;s still Qwest DSL. The ISP part is mostly fluff. You get better customer service and maybe some more web space and some e-mail addresses.</p>
<p>VISI (great company by the way, nothing against them) offers DSL access of &#8220;Up to 3-7Mbps&#8221; down starting at around $40 per month for Qwest DSL service plus another $19.95 per month for VISI to act as your ISP. If you&#8217;re getting sustained download speeds of 7Mbps, that&#8217;s great. Most people aren&#8217;t nearly as close to the DSLAM, though. </p>
<p>My connection was slow enough and my ping rates were high enough that I couldn&#8217;t use VOIP services or play online games reliably, so I switched back to cable. How much is your bill each month, if you don&#8217;t mind sharing?</p>
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		<title>By: yoshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>yoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point isn&#039;t valid here.  With Comcast you are stuck with Comcast as the ISP.  Live in Minneapolis....  if you choose Qwest DSL you DO NOT have to use them as an ISP.  So the fact that Qwest was slow for you isn&#039;t relevant.  I have a naked DSL line (no phone line) from Qwest with Visi as my ISP.  In all the years I have had them (going on 5) there has never been a problem and my speed is exactly what I pay for (7Mbs down).   Meanwhile my friends with Comcast have to deal with slowdowns, non-existent service, and unreliability.   The death for Comcast Internet in Minneapolis will be the public wifi system that is just going into production. 

So why don&#039;t you do a little research once in while...  Once I can order the higher speeds I&#039;ll seriously look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point isn&#8217;t valid here.  With Comcast you are stuck with Comcast as the ISP.  Live in Minneapolis&#8230;.  if you choose Qwest DSL you DO NOT have to use them as an ISP.  So the fact that Qwest was slow for you isn&#8217;t relevant.  I have a naked DSL line (no phone line) from Qwest with Visi as my ISP.  In all the years I have had them (going on 5) there has never been a problem and my speed is exactly what I pay for (7Mbs down).   Meanwhile my friends with Comcast have to deal with slowdowns, non-existent service, and unreliability.   The death for Comcast Internet in Minneapolis will be the public wifi system that is just going into production. </p>
<p>So why don&#8217;t you do a little research once in while&#8230;  Once I can order the higher speeds I&#8217;ll seriously look at it.</p>
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