Comments on: Going Green: Should you convert to Biodiesel? How does it work? http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:50:55 -0500 hourly 1 By: john doe http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-987574 john doe Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:29:26 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-987574 yall are all weird yall are all weird

]]> By: mobitronia http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-982844 mobitronia Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:30:46 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-982844 demand for green automobiles is on the rise and used car dealers are carving a niche for themselves by selling biodiesel-ready autos. In US, drivers are dealing with biodiesel vehicles like, VW, Mercedes and Honda. demand for green automobiles is on the rise and used car dealers are carving a niche for themselves by selling biodiesel-ready autos. In US, drivers are dealing with biodiesel vehicles like, VW, Mercedes and Honda.

]]> By: Andrea M http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-980240 Andrea M Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:31:10 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-980240 Yes, Paul, but never any "EXTRA" ; ) Yes, Paul, but never any “EXTRA” ; )

]]> By: Paul G http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-706514 Paul G Sat, 24 May 2008 00:07:18 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-706514 Actually, I just found out that there is Siberian Vodka! Actually, I just found out that there is Siberian Vodka!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-691279 Anonymous Sun, 11 May 2008 20:54:49 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-691279 Do you work for a Petroleum Co. Sounds like you don"t want people to realize just how simple Ethynol is to produce, add a very small amt. of Igniter and it runs a Diesel engine just fine. Don't dis what you haven't tried. Just a thought. Do you work for a Petroleum Co. Sounds like you don”t want people to realize just how simple Ethynol is to produce, add a very small amt. of Igniter and it runs a Diesel engine just fine. Don’t dis what you haven’t tried. Just a thought.

]]> By: SLG http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-676774 SLG Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:37:36 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-676774 Most Biodiesel in the US is based on soybean oil. US soy is grown mainly for it’s use as a protein source, think textured soy Mc Burgers or as an animal feed like roasted soybeans fed to animals that become Mc Burgers. Before the soy can be used, it must be crushed and the oil removed, ruminant animals like cattle and sheep can’t handle the oil well, so the oil can be used for biodiesel. On the other hand, most people do not understand that ethanol from corn is FOOD AND FUEL not Food vs Fuel. First, the variety of corn that is used for ethanol is not the sweet corn that you and I eat. When corn is used to make ethanol the sugars/starches are fermented. Nothing is wasted and the CO2 from the ethanol fermentation is captured and sold to food companies. It is then used to put the fizz in soft drinks. The corn grains that are left over which are called DDG (Dried Distillers Grain) are then sold to farmers as food for cattle, pigs and chicken. Cattle are ruminant animals and cannot absorb the oil in the DDG very well. If we remove the corn oil before drying the DDG it could be used for making biodiesel. The resultant meat/pork/chicken is then fed to people so for (biodiesel and ethanol) Biofuels = FUEL AND FOOD. As a biodiesel producer we are always looking at cheaper feedstock like used cooking oil and non-food crops like Jatropha. This grows on marginal lands and produces more oil per hectare than canola or soy offering developing countries a source of fuel that is not petroleum. (ie More oil on less land). We do not import soy or palm as they are not economical nor environmentally friendly. Remember that most of the soy in Brazil or palm in Indonesia goes to feed people not cars and the increase in the price of oil is the major cause of increased food prices worldwide. Farmers need fuel for tractors, fertilizer is made from petroleum, transportation, packaging (ie plastics) etc. are all affected by the price of oil. Rice has doubled in price and it's not even used as a biofuel feedstock! Speaking of animal feed, did you know that it takes 10 lbs of corn or soy to get 1lb of meat. Maybe we should go veggie? Cows poop tons of methane which contributes to greenhouse gases also. Why not short circuit it and eat textured soy protein (fake meat) or soy beverage (fake milk)? Are biofuels the total solution? No, but until we all practice more conservation by driving VW Diesel Jetta's instead of Hummers, take transit , walk more, reduce foreign oil imports and implement more solar and wind, it's a great first step. Most Biodiesel in the US is based on soybean oil. US soy is grown mainly for it’s use as a protein source, think textured soy Mc Burgers or as an animal feed like roasted soybeans fed to animals that become Mc Burgers. Before the soy can be used, it must be crushed and the oil removed, ruminant animals like cattle and sheep can’t handle the oil well, so the oil can be used for biodiesel.

On the other hand, most people do not understand that ethanol from corn is FOOD AND FUEL not Food vs Fuel.

First, the variety of corn that is used for ethanol is not the sweet corn that you and I eat.

When corn is used to make ethanol the sugars/starches are fermented.
Nothing is wasted and the CO2 from the ethanol fermentation is captured and sold to food companies. It is then used to put the fizz in soft drinks.
The corn grains that are left over which are called DDG (Dried Distillers Grain) are then sold to farmers as food for cattle, pigs and chicken.

Cattle are ruminant animals and cannot absorb the oil in the DDG very well. If we remove the corn oil before drying the DDG it could be used for making biodiesel.

The resultant meat/pork/chicken is then fed to people so for (biodiesel and ethanol) Biofuels = FUEL AND FOOD.

As a biodiesel producer we are always looking at cheaper feedstock like used cooking oil and non-food crops like Jatropha. This grows on marginal lands and produces more oil per hectare than canola or soy offering developing countries a source of fuel that is not petroleum. (ie More oil on less land).

We do not import soy or palm as they are not economical nor environmentally friendly. Remember that most of the soy in Brazil or palm in Indonesia goes to feed people not cars and the increase in the price of oil is the major cause of increased food prices worldwide. Farmers need fuel for tractors, fertilizer is made from petroleum, transportation, packaging (ie plastics) etc. are all affected by the price of oil. Rice has doubled in price and it’s not even used as a biofuel feedstock!

Speaking of animal feed, did you know that it takes 10 lbs of corn or soy to get 1lb of meat. Maybe we should go veggie? Cows poop tons of methane which contributes to greenhouse gases also. Why not short circuit it and eat textured soy protein (fake meat) or soy beverage (fake milk)?

Are biofuels the total solution? No, but until we all practice more conservation by driving VW Diesel Jetta’s instead of Hummers, take transit , walk more, reduce foreign oil imports and implement more solar and wind, it’s a great first step.

]]> By: Paul G http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/25/should-you-convert-to-biodiesel-how-does-it-work/comment-page-1/#comment-675295 Paul G Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:25:10 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=25346#comment-675295 There no such thing as extra Siberian vodka :) Cool stuff - thanks for the read. There no such thing as extra Siberian vodka :)

Cool stuff – thanks for the read.

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