Comments on: Microsoft warns webmasters to update sites for Internet Explorer compatibility; Welcome to 1998

By: Whiskey

Whiskey — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:59:55 +0000

So… This is why i chose to develop web pages to work with firefox then…

What’s so new about IE8? Will it take longer to load about:blank? How about adding more hints on what is a tab on the about:tabs page? Come on Microsoft, i know you can make it slower!!!!

And, uhm, will you please make us download yet another “You are a pirate, no OS for you” false positive prone application? Please?

By: Bryan Peters

Bryan Peters — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:46:39 +0000

“Oh please, there is zero reason to have supported non-standard technologies to begin with.”

Ever used xmlhttprequest? That was a non-standard bit of proprietary code MS developed for OWA back in the days. That’s what made AJAX possible, and is used everywhere.

I think this conversation needs to end – it’s been said by much smarter people than us and over a much longer period of time. Like I said in the first link – we all had our chance. I agreed with MS initial stance, and I was sad to see them change their plan because of pressures from the community. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:20:02 +0000

Oh please, there is zero reason to have supported non-standard technologies to begin with.

Webmasters should have one thing to say to Microsoft now. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” That about sums it up.

By: Fragger

Fragger — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:45:47 +0000

Yes i do work in the web area for a large corporation, and many of our applications only function in IE6, so the entire company is restricted to that browser. And yes that allows the company to do things they wouldn’t be able to if it didn’t exist. But I mean now, they are difficult to sustain at the very least.

But now I NEVER want to see an application like that outside of our intranet. Because that means i have to close my browser, open IE, hope i don’t get a bunch of spyawre while its open, and then go back to Firefox when I’m done with that. By coming out with a new browser they aren’t making anymore money, They are just trying to keep people from switching, and other than just to spite Mozilla, I don’t see a reason why they continue.

By: Bryan Peters

Bryan Peters — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:12:12 +0000

I’m guessing nobody here has had to develop web applications for large corporate/internal systems over the last 10 years. Internet Explorer has done some great things for the web over the years but stagnated for a while, which is why there’s so much negativity around it.

They have a HUGE responsibility to stay modern, support many web standards, while also being backwards compatible to old, crappy HTML that YOU have generated over the last decade.

Disclaimer: I switched browsers to Firefox back when it was Firebird 0.89. I’m posting this comment from FF 3

By: Fragger

Fragger — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:47:19 +0000

why do they keep trying. There is no reason for them to even have a browser anymore. IE is a ship that sank a long time ago. Firefox easily out dominates them, so what is the reason they are still trying to complete?

By: Yasser

Yasser — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:22:08 +0000

Seems like Microsoft still wants things their way. And then people wonder why some sites look funny under other browsers.

By: Gerard

Gerard — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:36:10 +0000

Comparing it to Vietnam? Actually that war was started by the French, so we didn’t basically “make” that mess. A better example of “it likely never should have happened in the first place, but once a mess is made you have to do what you can to fix it?” Put a picture of the IRAQ WAR next to that phrase. There couldn’t be a better example — you didn’t need to reach back 40 years for that comparison.

But I agree with the IE8 thing. Totally. What do you expect from Microsoft though?

By: Geekitblack

Geekitblack — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:42:50 +0000

Sorry but, Brian said ‘We had our chance’

I saw the chance, realised i couldn’t be bothered, went to FireFox, and havn’t looked back once.

Internet Explorer, is slated, and degraded on a daily basis, then they make it harder for the people sticking with them. To stick with them.

They’re just not helping themselves, atall!

Geek it BLACK
http://www.geekitblack.blogspot.com

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:02:49 +0000

Darn it
I haven’t even upgraded to 7 yet
Thanks M$ for helping keep us Web Folks employed

By: Angela Hayden

Angela Hayden — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:28:03 +0000

I hate internet explorer. I’m not upgrading and I wish I could uninstall the whole damned thing. I’ve got the “virtumonde” virus because of it and am going to have to do a clean install.

I’m currently using SeaMonkey and very happy. Also was very happy with thunderbird.

By: Ben

Ben — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:11:45 +0000

Microsoft

By: lee

lee — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:23:25 +0000

an MS employee?

By: Ben

Ben — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:35:55 +0000

I think “Brian” here is a MS employee…

By: Bryan Peters

Bryan Peters — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:27:01 +0000

Ummm, you had your chance…

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx

Don’t get mad at Microsoft – they had the right idea to begin with, but caved to the weight of the not-so-bright interwebs. The only thing you can fault them for is taking the advice of the majority.