Gates sends angry e-mail, sounds just like a customer

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The Seattle P-I has tracked down an old e-mail from 2003 that Bill Gates sent out to members of the Windows Usability team. The pages-long e-mail message chronicles Gates’ attempt to download Windows Movie Maker. Here are some especially tantalizing tidbits, with the full e-mail message to be found after the jump.

“I tried scoping to Media stuff. Still no moviemaker. I typed in movie. Nothing. I typed in movie maker. Nothing.

So I gave up and sent mail to Amir saying - where is this Moviemaker download? Does it exist?

So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated…

…I thought for sure now I would see a button to just go do the download.

In fact it is more like a puzzle that you get to solve. It told me to go to Windows Update and do a bunch of incantations.

This struck me as completely odd. Why should I have to go somewhere else and do a scan to download moviemaker?…

…Then it told me to reboot my machine. Why should I do that? I reboot every night — why should I reboot at that time?

So I did the reboot because it INSISTED on it. Of course that meant completely getting rid of all my Outlook state…”

Here’s the entire message…

“—- Original Message —-

From: Bill Gates
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:05 AM
To: Jim Allchin
Cc: Chris Jones (WINDOWS); Bharat Shah (NT); Joe Peterson; Will Poole; Brian Valentine; Anoop Gupta (RESEARCH)
Subject: Windows Usability Systematic degradation flame

I am quite disappointed at how Windows Usability has been going backwards and the program management groups don’t drive usability issues.

Let me give you my experience from yesterday.

I decided to download (Moviemaker) and buy the Digital Plus pack … so I went to Microsoft.com. They have a download place so I went there.

The first 5 times I used the site it timed out while trying to bring up the download page. Then after an 8 second delay I got it to come up.

This site is so slow it is unusable.

It wasn’t in the top 5 so I expanded the other 45.

These 45 names are totally confusing. These names make stuff like: C:\Documents and Settings\billg\My Documents\My Pictures seem clear.

They are not filtered by the system … and so many of the things are strange.

I tried scoping to Media stuff. Still no moviemaker. I typed in movie. Nothing. I typed in movie maker. Nothing.

So I gave up and sent mail to Amir saying - where is this Moviemaker download? Does it exist?

So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated.

They told me to go to the main page search button and type movie maker (not moviemaker!).

I tried that. The site was pathetically slow but after 6 seconds of waiting up it came.

I thought for sure now I would see a button to just go do the download.

In fact it is more like a puzzle that you get to solve. It told me to go to Windows Update and do a bunch of incantations.

This struck me as completely odd. Why should I have to go somewhere else and do a scan to download moviemaker?

So I went to Windows update. Windows Update decides I need to download a bunch of controls. (Not) just once but multiple times where I get to see weird dialog boxes.

Doesn’t Windows update know some key to talk to Windows?

Then I did the scan. This took quite some time and I was told it was critical for me to download 17megs of stuff.

This is after I was told we were doing delta patches to things but instead just to get 6 things that are labeled in the SCARIEST possible way I had to download 17meg.

So I did the download. That part was fast. Then it wanted to do an install. This took 6 minutes and the machine was so slow I couldn’t use it for anything else during this time.

What the heck is going on during those 6 minutes? That is crazy. This is after the download was finished.

Then it told me to reboot my machine. Why should I do that? I reboot every night — why should I reboot at that time?

So I did the reboot because it INSISTED on it. Of course that meant completely getting rid of all my Outlook state.

So I got back up and running and went to Windows Updale again. I forgot why I was in Windows Update at all since all I wanted was to get Moviemaker.

So I went back to Microsoft.com and looked at the instructions. I have to click on a folder called WindowsXP. Why should I do that? Windows Update knows I am on Windows XP.

What does it mean to have to click on that folder? So I get a bunch of confusing stuff but sure enough one of them is Moviemaker.

So I do the download. The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes. Amazing how slow this thing is.

At some point I get told I need to go get Windows Media Series 9 to download.

So I decide I will go do that. This time I get dialogs saying things like "Open" or "Save". No guidance in the instructions which to do. I have no clue which to do.

The download is fast and the install takes 7 minutes for this thing.

So now I think I am going to have Moviemaker. I go to my add/remove programs place to make sure it is there.

It is not there.

What is there? The following garbage is there. Microsoft Autoupdate Exclusive test package, Microsoft Autoupdate Reboot test package, Microsoft Autoupdate testpackage1. Microsoft AUtoupdate testpackage2, Microsoft Autoupdate Test package3.

Someone decided to trash the one part of Windows that was usable? The file system is no longer usable. The registry is not usable. This program listing was one sane place but now it is all crapped up.

But that is just the start of the crap. Later I have listed things like Windows XP Hotfix see Q329048 for more information. What is Q329048? Why are these series of patches listed here? Some of the patches just things like Q810655 instead of saying see Q329048 for more information.

What an absolute mess.

Moviemaker is just not there at all.

So I give up on Moviemaker and decide to download the Digital Plus Package.

I get told I need to go enter a bunch of information about myself.

I enter it all in and because it decides I have mistyped something I have to try again. Of course it has cleared out most of what I typed.

I try (typing) the right stuff in 5 times and it just keeps clearing things out for me to type them in again.

So after more than an hour of craziness and making my programs list garbage and being scared and seeing that Microsoft.com is a terrible website I haven’t run Moviemaker and I haven’t got the plus package.

The lack of attention to usability represented by these experiences blows my mind. I thought we had reached a low with Windows Network places or the messages I get when I try to use 802.11. (don’t you just love that root certificate message?)

When I really get to use the stuff I am sure I will have more feedback.”

Yee-ouch. I, for one, think it’s admirable for certain heads of companies to have to eat their own dog food. When asked about this e-mail in a recent interview, Gates responded, "There’s not a day that I don’t send a piece of e-mail … like that piece of e-mail. That’s my job."

via Seattle P-I

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14 Comments so far

 
pji

Screw the email, that is one sweet “jazz hands” Billy G. picture!

 
Ben

I was sure it was fake until you said that he admits to it. Hilarious.

“Hey guys,

Steve here. I decided to purchase and download iWork ‘08. So I went to apple.com and clicked on the “Downloads” link. iWork wasn’t listed in the top downloads so I searched for iWork and it was the very first thing that came up. The site was fast and snappy! How is it possible for you guys to do such a great job!?

~Steve Jobs”

 
codeAries

Nice pic :)) Way to go Bill..lol

 
Chuck

Pretty much sums up what is wrong at Microsoft.

Anybody with half a brain does not have the time or the will the review Microsoft’s own product. The less than half brainers are running the show. Inexperienced developers, incompetent middle managers, a lack of any realistic quality control, almost no useful internal communications, an isolated web team, and I am sure even more wrong with Microsofts structure. In short probably everything that can go wrong with a bog corporate structure.

The company chairman should never need to send this kind of email. If it were me, I’d be ordering a giant enema bag to start the house cleaning.

Too bad because I am sure there are some full brainers there, probably weeping to themselves in some dark corner.

 
whiskey

Gates responded, “There’s not a day that I don’t send a piece of e-mail … like that piece of e-mail. That’s my job.”

Wow… Maybe that’s why Bill is leaving?

I mean, who wouldn’t get frustrated after 5 years of daily emails like this and still get results like what we know now as Vista?

In my most humble opinion, Microsoft should split over their business activities. So dedicated teams could do better work… What’s that you say? They already do that? Sheesh!

 
Mike

So fake…

 
woog

“Hey guys,

Steve here. I decided to purchase and download iWork ‘08. So I went to apple.com and clicked on the “Downloads” link. iWork wasn’t listed in the top downloads so I searched for iWork and it was the very first thing that came up. The site was fast and snappy! How is it possible for you guys to do such a great job!?

Also, I love it in the ass. All my customers are designfags.

Thanks!
~Steve Jobs”

 
Ben

Jeeze. Such hostility. Whats wrong man? Have you been looking for moviemaker all day too? Just take a deep breath, go to the Apple store and purchase a Mac. It come pre-loaded with iMovie!

 
Brigander

No, it seems likely that he is fed up with all you Mac idiots thinking that you are far superior than everyone else when in fact all you have is a shiny facade to hide behind. Sorry you lose, but thanks for playing anyway.

 
Ben

Why do you guys have to resort to insulting people. I was making a clean joke about Apple products being easier to use then Microsoft products. All you can do is come back and call us idiots and fags that love it in the ass. Grow up.

 
Chuck

The really funny thing is that XP comes pre-loaded with Movie Maker and has for as long as I have had XP

 
George Fowler

Hire Someone to use or Test The Downloads That Knows There Ass From a Hole In the Ground and Let Them Make Things Easy.

 
John Smith

Still anything new?

 
Zippy

He is/was the ultimate decision maker at MS and should have kept on-top of all operatons. The MS site has been bloated for a long time. This (alleged) email was sent in 2003. 5 years later and no change. MS could do a LOT more to keep up with customer satisfaction. One of those major factors is their wish to try and force Vista down our throats and forcing it by stopping XP support. Listen-up MS, we prefer XP. That is what the majority of cutomers want. And, on the whole, cutomers pay MONEY. Simple equation really.

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