Kindle 2.0 Coming Around October 2008


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An insider let slip that two new Amazon Kindle models will hit stores this holiday season, with the first coming as early as October.

The first is an updated version with the same sized screen, a smaller form factor, and an improved interface. The source told us that Amazon has “skipped three or four generations,” comparing the old Kindle to the 1st gen iPod and the new version to something like the sexy iPod Mini.

The second new model, which is shaped like an 8 1/2 x 11-inch piece of paper, is considerably bigger than the current model and should be available next year.

Both models should come in multiple colors and may be aimed at younger readers.

The original Kindle, which launched last November, has been widely regarded as a success, though Amazon has curiously refused to release any numbers related to its sales figures. In May, Citigroup Analyst Mark Mahaney estimated that Amazon may sell $750 Million in Kindles by 2010. The same report also guessed that Amazon has only sold between 10,000 and 30,000 Kindles to date, suggesting that it may display the same exponential growth seen by the iPod during its climb from 129,000 units sold in its first quarter to worldwide dominance, with over 100 million sold.

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adam (Who am I?)

Are you serious? I just bought one. I think I’ll return it, as I bet the new interface will be much, much improved. I’m a regular early adopter, and used to accepting the reality of improved models, but this is just too expensive of a device to be screwed over on, in my opinion!

 
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Alex (Who am I?)

Seriously? An “early” adopter who didn’t buy in the first 3 months? That isn’t an early adopter.. that’s an adopter. The Kindle 1.0 came out in the fall of last year, and now you are complaining because the 2.0 comes out about a year later.

 
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Mark (Who am I?)

Alex’s comment is right on target.

Another thing… You decided that you were going to exchange something of value for your $$. You must have thought it was a good value or you wouldn’t have done it. If Kindle 2.0 comes out, that doesn’t make the value of what you have any less. You might have buyers remorse for not waiting, but that’s not “being screwed over”. If it comes out and it’s worth upgrading to the Kindle 2.0, you might find people willing to take your 1.0 off your hands on eBay. Then you’ll get some of your money back to put towards a 2.0.

In the meantime, make good use of your Kindle 1.0, and get your moneys worth!

 
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NcBlueEyedBlonde (Who am I?)

Yeah.. don’t believe everything you read… sorry not buying this, and making it bigger.. find that hard to believe too

MY insider on the design team tells me Dec of 2009… no one wants to drag around a kindle that size.. its simply too large.. I think you were given a bad tip

 
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NcBlueEyedBlonde (Who am I?)

Yeah.. don’t believe everything you read… sorry not buying this, and making it bigger.. find that hard to believe too

MY insider on the design team tells me Dec of 2009… no one wants to drag around a kindle that size.. its simply too large.. I think you were given a bad tip

 
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trent olson (Who am I?)

Any rumblings on when the Kindle will be offered internationally? Canada in particular?

 
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Ron Burgandy (Who am I?)

No one cares about canada. Right?

 
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BookHound (Who am I?)

Is your comment a joke? Can you even locate Canada on the map?

 
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DMO (Who am I?)

Why no just order it off of amazon.com dummy

 
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BookHound (Who am I?)

‘Dummy’ is as ‘Dummy’ writes… read the shipping info, Einstein: it only ships within the US. If someone is asking about the availability in Canada, it’s because they’ve actually read the information on the website. Furthermore, how deep are you in the swamp for calling someone a ‘Dummy’ for asking a question. It’s better to have some of the questions than all of the answers, as James Thurber once commented. People who ask questions actually think. And read.

 
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BookHound (Who am I?)

Well, Einstein, if you read the shipping info, it clearly states that they only ship within the US. SNAP!

 
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Ni (Who am I?)

LOL @ DMO!

 
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BookHound (Who am I?)

Like all other things, I’d bet we’ll be waiting for a long time. Of course, the advantage is that we’ll hopefully have a good product by the time it gets here. Always a silver lining.

 
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BookHound (Who am I?)

The comment that ended up under Ni’s intelligent scribble was actually meant for you, Trent. “Like all other things, I’d bet we’ll be waiting for a long time. Of course, the advantage is that we’ll hopefully have a good product by the time it gets here. Always a silver lining.”

 
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cameron (Who am I?)

I have mixed feelings about this rumor.

It would be the time to bring out a new model. Given what amazon has learned i bet they would be able to release a new Kindle that would be not only cheaper, but probably better in just about every respect.

Hopefully they do an update for all older Kindle units for the updated interface.

I give this a 50/50 chance.

More likely i would imagine a serious price cut. If they could get the Kindle down to $199 i think they would have a real winner

 
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adam (Who am I?)

I tend to agree on the price cut (even more than recent) coming approx 3-4 months prior to any new release. Also, it WOULD build much good will to early adopters if Amazon does upgrade the firmware to any new user interface. So, if you’re listening Amazon - don’t forget your large pre-existing customer base.

My biggest gripe with the “e-ink” is the flash to black during page turning. I understand that this is reportedly part of the “technology” of the display - and love the readability otherwise - but there must be an alternative to this animation; perhaps flashing to a blank/white screen rather than black?

Whenever a new Kindle DOES come out, hope it doesn’t look like what’s in the picture here!

 
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Brad Hill (Who am I?)

Just bought one, but I’m hoping for quick development and multiple iterations. They’ve got to fix the design idiocies pronto. (And I love my Kindle.) Hoping for a few models targeted to different needs. For me– get rid of the keyboard and the browser, and give me a model that’s just about books.

 
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Dandy (Who am I?)

If you want ot get rid for keyboard and browser - just switch to Sony Reader, that would be exactly what you are asking. Fortunately, Kindle is more than that - so you can choose what you want - device to attach to your PC like Sony Reader, or Kindle which is independent device on its own

 
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Wayne Schulz (Who am I?)

Just move the damned keys out of the way so they aren’t so easy to press by mistake.

How did the key layout ever pass Beta. Did they test it on arthritics with no range of finger movement?

 
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ghs (Who am I?)

I love my Kindle, bring it with me wherever I travel, and have read more in the last year thanks to it than in the previous three years without it. But, the current device is limited in _so_ many ways, I can’t wait to purchase a new one. Needed features:
1.More resolution. It is completely incompatible with Technical Reference manuals - not enough resolution/not large enough for Diagrams. Light fiction, it’s great - so I’ll keep the old one.
2. Better Key Layout - My fingers now have enough memory when touching my kindle to _not_ hit one of the prev/next/back buttons - but there are acrobatics and _very_ precise placement of the finger required.
3. A compatible night light location (too much to hope for backlighting) - I have a couple, and the “mighty bright” is ok, but there isn’t a good place to place it one the kindle.
4. More robust - I’ve broken two, one by simply pressing against the screen with another book - no visible damage - just a dead kindle. Compare that to my iPhone which has been close to indestructible.

That’s about it - it really is a phenomenal device, and, combined with an SD card, basically has eliminated my need to purchase physical books for fiction reading.

 
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Matt (Who am I?)

And Kindle ebooks that you buy need to also be readable on your Mac/PC.

 
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hyloka (Who am I?)

And while we’re at it, I’d like a pony.

 
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Angel (Who am I?)

You can use a Kindle anywhere in the world, you just can’t download books via the wireless connection. Just download them from the website and upload them to the Kindle. Most countries’ Ebay sites offer people in the US who are willing to ship Kindles worldwide WITH compatible power cables too.

 
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sailsmart (Who am I?)

I’d like to replace all my Toronto papers to be read on the Kindle plus the New York Times, blogs and some rss feeds. How long does it take to do a download from the Internet to my PC via my Rogers cable and can I automate this easily?

 
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Czar (Who am I?)

Kindle 2.0..I’ve just received one of those (particularly the second one) from my dad. It’s somewhat a pretty cool gadget to have. It would have been hotter though if I received a blue-colored Kindle. You know what I received?…A pink one. Very girly. LOL!

 
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chaka (Who am I?)

While I can’t comment on timing (though releasing a new one before Xmas would be smart), I can say that the larger version may be targeting people who will use it for “work.” So people who have to do editing, etc. would carry that around instead of a laptop. Feedback from agents and editors seems to be favorable overall… especially the fact that people don’t have to carry around large piles of printed documents.

I wouldn’t be surprised (read: am inviting) if at some point, 3rd party software starts to pop up like a PowerPoint converter, games, or a touchscreen…

 
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Jason (Who am I?)

I’d carry a Kindle that is the size of a piece of paper…love my tablet - it is a perfect size for reading & writing on. It is the weight and thinness that is important…small and larger will slide into my bag.

 
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John (Who am I?)

I would love to have an 8 1/2 x 11 kindle. I need to read pdfs from online journals and google books. A nice thin kindle would be perfect!

 
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jason (Who am I?)

the large screen kindle is for real. and it will target the student crowd. Think textbooks on the kindle. huge market.

 
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Brett (Who am I?)

iPhone (and similar devices) will kill the Kindle for reference books.

I bought a Kindle to use for a growing collection of PDF reference books, and returned it after exhaustively trying to make it do the job.

Inflexible formatting, and slow as molasses page redraws are killers.

The first problem is that the Kindle doesn’t like fixed format. This makes programming code based reference material truly unusable. The only alternative is to use freeware tools to convert the PDF’s to an eBook of images, but you loose hyperlinks and your eyesight must be good enough squint at the now pico sized text. Imagine textbook pages shrunk to a paperback….

I bought a couple of the same textbooks in native Kindle format from Amazon, but they too were hopeless. The formatting was horrendous, but worse was the navigation speed.

The etch-a-sketch style screen takes about 2 seconds to refresh between page turns. That didn’t sound like much to me before buying it, but imagine flicking through a normal reference book, from page to page, reference to page, or index to page. Slow as molasses. Enough to make me want to throw the device at a wall after just 10 minutes of use.

Anyway, true to form as an early adopter I have an iPhone, and Nokia 810. Both much smaller screens, but both truely blow the Kindle out of the water for reference material.

The **caveat** here is that for novels the Kindle is superb. It’s fluid and perfectly suited to lounging in a chair and relaxing into a good story. Not worth $400 to me though.

Hope this saves someone who’s looking for a portable reference library all the trouble I went though.

 
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louis (Who am I?)

i can second the iphone/nokia 810 == great for programming books comment. the screens are small, but i can read them well (especially on the 810). i wanted to get a kindle to do the exact thing you did, so: thanks for the post, Brett!

 
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Mystech (Who am I?)

Color, cheaper books, full PDF support and better personal document support. That’s it. Make it happen and my checkbook is open, Amazon.

 
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Lily (Who am I?)

I don’t believe this is rugged enough. The old Kindle model looked like it will break if you drop it, which has a good likelihood of happening if you use Kindle on the go like you are supposed to.

 
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Brad M (Who am I?)

Kindle 1.0 is awesome. Don’t let these non-owners tell you otherwise. It works with PDF, it’s so simple and easy to add content and so what if it costs $.10 to load your favorite pdf’s, $.10 is practically nothing. I get wall street journal and my favorite blogs delivered daily for about $18 a month and I get free internet access. It is so worth it.

 
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mike (Who am I?)

Amazon would have my money if I could sync my google reader to it without having to pay the ridiculous charge for every blog i want to read. i know you can do this on the iphone, but i would want to be able to download a bunch of my favorite blogs and read only them on a long flight. without destroying the battery. until then i’ll sit on the brink of near - kindle ownership.

 
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finius_lyn (Who am I?)

google reader works fluidly with the kindle. I just got mine this morning and already have google reader fully integrated. To top it off… the google reader is web based so - It’s FREE!!! yes, any blog that you want is accessible for free via the kindle by using google reader.
hope that this helps knock you off the fence!

 
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mike (Who am I?)

here’s a thought that’ll never happen:

what if bloggers added the text of all their posts to wikipedia so kindle users could read blogs for free? or if there was a wordpress plugin that could do that? is that spamming?

i suppose that would not fly with the editors of wikipedia.

 
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tommy (Who am I?)

It better come with native PDF support!

 
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TM (Who am I?)

Well, I just sent this to the SEC. Spreading false rumors that affect stock prices is illegal. And if true, disclosing inside material information is also illegal.

 
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Alex (Who am I?)

Wow. Don’t read any macinsider or engadget/gizmodo then… you’ll get arrested for spamming the SEC!

 
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riffraff (Who am I?)

Anybody seen this new eBook reader? Looks way cooler than the Amazon brick:

http://www.readius.com/

 
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Pat (Who am I?)

How do you hold this in your right hand? When it becomes available, that is. Is the image inverted for the right hand? The Kindle is hardly a brick; have you EVER held one…in either hand?

 
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Alex (