Comments on: Cloud Computing Q and A with Dave Girouard, President of Google Enterprise http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:05:29 -0500 hourly 1 By: Garrett http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-860523 Garrett Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:20:48 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-860523 Google is in a position to seriously encourage the adoption of cloud computing. They need to get SMS working on Grand Central and combine it with GMail so they can offer 1 bucket for voicemails, emails, SMS messages, and Google Talk messages. Then integrate Android with all these services! The possibilities are endless ... <a href="http://www.haktheplanet.com/2008/08/dear-sergey-android-grand-central-gmail.html" rel="nofollow">Hak the Planet</a> Google is in a position to seriously encourage the adoption of cloud computing. They need to get SMS working on Grand Central and combine it with GMail so they can offer 1 bucket for voicemails, emails, SMS messages, and Google Talk messages.

Then integrate Android with all these services! The possibilities are endless … Hak the Planet

]]> By: guanxi http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-837095 guanxi Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:37:06 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-837095 Re: Why aren't the apps quite there yet. He's right that they are improving, but we use them internally and they are too buggy for end users doing serious work. For example, simply converting to PDF (a native function in the word processor and spreadsheet, at least), often changes the formatting; it's not wysiwyg, and you often have to make the original look wrong so that the PDF looks right. So you are stuck with a trial and error process: Convert, look for errors, tweak original, convert again, etc. Not ready for the big time yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Re: Why aren’t the apps quite there yet.

He’s right that they are improving, but we use them internally and they are too buggy for end users doing serious work. For example, simply converting to PDF (a native function in the word processor and spreadsheet, at least), often changes the formatting; it’s not wysiwyg, and you often have to make the original look wrong so that the PDF looks right. So you are stuck with a trial and error process: Convert, look for errors, tweak original, convert again, etc. Not ready for the big time yet, but I’m looking forward to it.

]]> By: The Impairment Troll http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-798981 The Impairment Troll Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:22 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-798981 Uh, how about the hearing impaired? Please think of the chil...umm...deaf people. Of course it's less work to copy the audio on a website than transcribe it, but that leaves some visitors out of all the fun. Br, "iTroll" :-) Uh, how about the hearing impaired?

Please think of the chil…umm…deaf people.

Of course it’s less work to copy the audio on a website than transcribe it, but that leaves some visitors out of all the fun.

Br, “iTroll” :-)

]]> By: Dave Dandrino http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-798962 Dave Dandrino Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:40:28 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-798962 Dear Walt, Get over yourself. Signed, Everyone Dear Walt,

Get over yourself.

Signed,

Everyone

]]> By: Walt http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-797601 Walt Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:28:31 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-797601 I think I read a post recently on TC about the obsoletion of voicemail. Yet, I'm wasting my time here on poor quality audio snippets that I cannot visually scan for interest or relevance, or even see at a glance the relative lengths of each response. Why not also include a dual-tone keypad? Shouldn't the presentation format have a compelling relationship to the nature of the information provided? Was there something noteworthy here in DG's tone of voice? I think I read a post recently on TC about the obsoletion of voicemail. Yet, I’m wasting my time here on poor quality audio snippets that I cannot visually scan for interest or relevance, or even see at a glance the relative lengths of each response. Why not also include a dual-tone keypad?

Shouldn’t the presentation format have a compelling relationship to the nature of the information provided? Was there something noteworthy here in DG’s tone of voice?

]]> By: Doug Aamoth http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-797594 Doug Aamoth Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:18:32 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-797594 Added direct MP3 links for those of you having trouble -- thanks for the heads up. Added direct MP3 links for those of you having trouble — thanks for the heads up.

]]> By: splooge http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-797453 splooge Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:53:49 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-797453 I read this on my iPhone. Very interesting questions, just wish I knew what the answers were. " If they do not fit, you must transcribe". I read this on my iPhone. Very interesting questions, just wish I knew what the answers were. ” If they do not fit, you must transcribe”.

]]> By: Jack T. http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-797346 Jack T. Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:31:25 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-797346 Hi, it's not working for me either, it stays "buffering". I have Firefox 3.0.1 and Windows XP Pro. Considering I had to go to IE, the article was still interesting (the audio format is a nice way to mix it up, although for now I'd stay with text). According to Rishi Chandra - Product Manager for Google Ent. - <a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/document.asp?doc_id=156400&f_src=flffour" rel="nofollow">three thousand new businesses a day are signing up - most of them from the small business area.</a> Big corporations are having a hard time letting go of their information to third-parties, so it'll take a while for them to get on board with Cloud Computing and App as a service. Hi, it’s not working for me either, it stays “buffering”. I have Firefox 3.0.1 and Windows XP Pro.

Considering I had to go to IE, the article was still interesting (the audio format is a nice way to mix it up, although for now I’d stay with text). According to Rishi Chandra – Product Manager for Google Ent. – three thousand new businesses a day are signing up – most of them from the small business area. Big corporations are having a hard time letting go of their information to third-parties, so it’ll take a while for them to get on board with Cloud Computing and App as a service.

]]> By: John Biggs http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796807 John Biggs Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:53:20 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796807 hrm - works fine for us. OS? hrm – works fine for us. OS?

]]> By: James http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796764 James Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:09:49 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796764 Audio not working on firefox. Too bad for a site like crunchgear. Leave these errors to amateur web designers... Audio not working on firefox. Too bad for a site like crunchgear. Leave these errors to amateur web designers…

]]> By: Trish http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796680 Trish Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:45:00 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796680 Help, I can't get the audio to work at all. Anywhere else I can listen? Help, I can’t get the audio to work at all. Anywhere else I can listen?

]]> By: Alex Glassey http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796635 Alex Glassey Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:19:55 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796635 The question about "Why is Google Apps still not quite there as far as core functionality is concerned?" is really interesting and Dave makes an interesting point. With SaaS apps it's not necessarily about replicating traditional desktop apps feature for feature. One of the real opportunities within the space, especially for the smaller guys (e.g. not google) is to conceive and create new types of services, especially for business users, that directly address specific, unique needs of a well defined customer segment. I expect we will see a lot more innovation in these types of products and services over the next 12-18 months. Alex Glassey projjex.com The question about “Why is Google Apps still not quite there as far as core functionality is concerned?” is really interesting and Dave makes an interesting point. With SaaS apps it’s not necessarily about replicating traditional desktop apps feature for feature. One of the real opportunities within the space, especially for the smaller guys (e.g. not google) is to conceive and create new types of services, especially for business users, that directly address specific, unique needs of a well defined customer segment. I expect we will see a lot more innovation in these types of products and services over the next 12-18 months.

Alex Glassey
projjex.com

]]> By: killerlocator.com http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796569 killerlocator.com Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:56:40 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796569 cloud computing is a farce. the internet is the internet no matter how you access it or which apps you use to navigate. i got a 2 new buzz words id like to share. rain computing. bubble computing, cloud computing is a farce. the internet is the internet no matter how you access it or which apps you use to navigate. i got a 2 new buzz words id like to share. rain computing. bubble computing,

]]> By: Pete Steege http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796514 Pete Steege Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:47:17 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796514 Good content. Dave's point that the cloud will be additive for the forseeable future is dead on. I appreciated the experiment with this audio format. Needs some work, but nice to mix it up. Good content. Dave’s point that the cloud will be additive for the forseeable future is dead on.

I appreciated the experiment with this audio format. Needs some work, but nice to mix it up.

]]> By: Webcloudworld http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796486 Webcloudworld Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:17:34 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796486 It is interesting to compare his vision with the one recently shared by Marc Benioff (CEO of Salesforce) here : http://www.webcloudworld.com/analysis/salesforces-ceo-platform-as-a-service-web-30/ Webcloudworld http://www.webcloudworld.com On-demand Business It is interesting to compare his vision with the one recently shared by Marc Benioff (CEO of Salesforce) here : http://www.webcloudworld.com/analysis/salesforces-ceo-platform-as-a-service-web-30/

Webcloudworld
http://www.webcloudworld.com
On-demand Business

]]> By: Eric http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796485 Eric Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:16:54 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796485 Yep, I second (or third) the comments on audio quality. This is pretty much unlistenable and should be made into a transcript asap. And the idea of chopping it up into chunks like this just makes it worse! Yep, I second (or third) the comments on audio quality. This is pretty much unlistenable and should be made into a transcript asap. And the idea of chopping it up into chunks like this just makes it worse!

]]> By: Peter http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796481 Peter Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:12:13 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796481 boring to listen! Transcription would have better, faster and clearer :( boring to listen! Transcription would have better, faster and clearer :(

]]> By: Greg Clinton http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-796479 Greg Clinton Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:11:14 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-796479 In our high-tech day and age, it never ceases to amaze me how bad we are at audio. Everywhere from the garbled "Now serving 23" at the local In-N-Out, to the recordings on this page, to the quality of my cell calls. Whatever happened to "hear a pin drop"? Why can't we ever get audio right? In our high-tech day and age, it never ceases to amaze me how bad we are at audio. Everywhere from the garbled “Now serving 23″ at the local In-N-Out, to the recordings on this page, to the quality of my cell calls. Whatever happened to “hear a pin drop”? Why can’t we ever get audio right?

]]> By: Brian de Haaff http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/06/cloud-computing-q-and-a-with-dave-girouard-president-of-google-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-795647 Brian de Haaff Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:28:52 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=33002#comment-795647 This is an interesting interview that covers a fair amount of ground. I appreciate Dave Girouard’s assertion that it is still the early days for App Engine and cloud computing platforms in general. In particular, he explains the fact that there are two different audiences for cloud-based services. The first are actual end users (businesses and individuals who use the applications (e.g. www.salesforce.com) and second the developers who are building out applications on cloud computing platforms. Clearly, the massive adoption is taking place in SaaS services right now. Furthermore, it is more likely that PaaS services will take off before there is widespread cloud computing platform adoption, as part of the value to moving to the Web is that someone else has built the application for you and allowed you to take advantage of related applications in an ecosystem. We recently published a blog post on this subject with the purpose of simplifying the discussion via images and cutting through the confusion. You can read it here: “ASPs are dead, long live the Cloud” https://community.paglo.com/blog_topic/index/110-the-asp-is-dead-long-live-the-cloud Brian de Haaff www.Paglo.com The search engine for IT This is an interesting interview that covers a fair amount of ground. I appreciate Dave Girouard’s assertion that it is still the early days for App Engine and cloud computing platforms in general. In particular, he explains the fact that there are two different audiences for cloud-based services. The first are actual end users (businesses and individuals who use the applications (e.g. http://www.salesforce.com) and second the developers who are building out applications on cloud computing platforms.

Clearly, the massive adoption is taking place in SaaS services right now. Furthermore, it is more likely that PaaS services will take off before there is widespread cloud computing platform adoption, as part of the value to moving to the Web is that someone else has built the application for you and allowed you to take advantage of related applications in an ecosystem. We recently published a blog post on this subject with the purpose of simplifying the discussion via images and cutting through the confusion.

You can read it here: “ASPs are dead, long live the Cloud” https://community.paglo.com/blog_topic/index/110-the-asp-is-dead-long-live-the-cloud

Brian de Haaff
http://www.Paglo.com
The search engine for IT

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