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	<title>Comments on: Today in History: Steve Jobs returns to Apple</title>
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		<title>By: Jose A Vivas</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-904031</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose A Vivas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple, always was a innovative company. So many ideas was inside. Before NexT, and BeOS, Kaleida -the code name- was the first truly full multemedia and multitasking OS inside Apple to replace the old MacOS with PowerPC not the 68040 from Motorola.  It was the time of many good ideas: Newton, General Magic, and so on.

IBM, bet for it. But, the internal creative fight, eject Jobs in 1985- and of course against Sculley too.

With the freash ideas of Kaleida, he knew MachOS, a full multitasking system, and then, it was the born of NeXT the first Postscript display and other new features.
 Before his [Jobs] return, and Apple bought NeXT for $400MM  [Cannon bought the hardware division of NeXT previous] and was the iCEO, the interim CEO. Casually, the same day -more or less- when he was named the CEO- without &quot;i&quot;- the iMac -with &quot;i&quot;- has born. 

Steve with his unique style make his superb move.

Cheers,

Jal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple, always was a innovative company. So many ideas was inside. Before NexT, and BeOS, Kaleida -the code name- was the first truly full multemedia and multitasking OS inside Apple to replace the old MacOS with PowerPC not the 68040 from Motorola.  It was the time of many good ideas: Newton, General Magic, and so on.</p>
<p>IBM, bet for it. But, the internal creative fight, eject Jobs in 1985- and of course against Sculley too.</p>
<p>With the freash ideas of Kaleida, he knew MachOS, a full multitasking system, and then, it was the born of NeXT the first Postscript display and other new features.<br />
 Before his [Jobs] return, and Apple bought NeXT for $400MM  [Cannon bought the hardware division of NeXT previous] and was the iCEO, the interim CEO. Casually, the same day -more or less- when he was named the CEO- without &#8220;i&#8221;- the iMac -with &#8220;i&#8221;- has born. </p>
<p>Steve with his unique style make his superb move.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jal</p>
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		<title>By: MacaMO</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902755</link>
		<dc:creator>MacaMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but....
he killed openDoc on his return. It may gave been an immature technology but the degree of flexibility it promised is only just beginning to happen with the types of widgets and plug ins you get with web2.0 and social media- but with much less elegance. If we could have got it right the personal computer would have been an more interesting tool.

he killed HyperCard... one of the best metaphors for app creation with a wonderful learning curve - if HyperCard was on the iPhone (and Bill Atkinson had conceived of networked hypercard from the start)...... the iPhone could have become the dynabook!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but&#8230;.<br />
he killed openDoc on his return. It may gave been an immature technology but the degree of flexibility it promised is only just beginning to happen with the types of widgets and plug ins you get with web2.0 and social media- but with much less elegance. If we could have got it right the personal computer would have been an more interesting tool.</p>
<p>he killed HyperCard&#8230; one of the best metaphors for app creation with a wonderful learning curve &#8211; if HyperCard was on the iPhone (and Bill Atkinson had conceived of networked hypercard from the start)&#8230;&#8230; the iPhone could have become the dynabook!</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Iglesias</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902462</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Iglesias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, Jobs didn&#039;t found Pixar. Pixar was a property of LucasArts that Jobs bought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, Jobs didn&#8217;t found Pixar. Pixar was a property of LucasArts that Jobs bought.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902381</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He didn&#039;t &quot;leave Apple&quot; -- his bone-headed Board fired him.  I&#039;m not sure if it was a forced resignation, or he was hopelessly marginalized, or just flat-out fired but those idiots threw out the BRAINS &amp; SOUL of the company and it withered.  As we watch the MBA&#039;s on Wall Street melting down the US and world economies we should take a moment to think whether the existing model for choosing business executives is the best for long-term shareholder value and the overall health of the companies and the larger economy.  The answer -- way more Jobs, way less Sculley -- seems obvious.  Steve: you&#039;re quirky, unpredictable, impossible to work with, disruptive, and brilliant.  You already know it but it never hurts to repeat: we love ya&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t &#8220;leave Apple&#8221; &#8212; his bone-headed Board fired him.  I&#8217;m not sure if it was a forced resignation, or he was hopelessly marginalized, or just flat-out fired but those idiots threw out the BRAINS &amp; SOUL of the company and it withered.  As we watch the MBA&#8217;s on Wall Street melting down the US and world economies we should take a moment to think whether the existing model for choosing business executives is the best for long-term shareholder value and the overall health of the companies and the larger economy.  The answer &#8212; way more Jobs, way less Sculley &#8212; seems obvious.  Steve: you&#8217;re quirky, unpredictable, impossible to work with, disruptive, and brilliant.  You already know it but it never hurts to repeat: we love ya&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902369</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alpha was a 64 bit processor developed by Digital Equipment Corp...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpha was a 64 bit processor developed by Digital Equipment Corp&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HVS</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902242</link>
		<dc:creator>HVS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone was constantly sounding the death knell for Apple back then, and continued to do so well into the 2000&#039;s.  Love him or hate him, Jobs is the reason people aren&#039;t doing that anymore.

http://www.macobserver.com/appledeathknell/index.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone was constantly sounding the death knell for Apple back then, and continued to do so well into the 2000&#8217;s.  Love him or hate him, Jobs is the reason people aren&#8217;t doing that anymore.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.macobserver.com/appledeathknell/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.macobserver.com/appledeathknell/index.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Biggs</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902233</link>
		<dc:creator>John Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke to someone who worked with Steve at NeXT and near the end he was kind of ignoring the team there. As a standalone product it was revolutionary but much too expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to someone who worked with Steve at NeXT and near the end he was kind of ignoring the team there. As a standalone product it was revolutionary but much too expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902208</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lest you forget, Apple&#039;s first choice for the base of OS X was the BeOS, but Jean Louis Gasse wanted $425 million, and Apple was only offering $125 million.  

THAT is why OS X is based on NeXT and not BeOS, which would have, arguably, put OS X even further ahead of its competition back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lest you forget, Apple&#8217;s first choice for the base of OS X was the BeOS, but Jean Louis Gasse wanted $425 million, and Apple was only offering $125 million.  </p>
<p>THAT is why OS X is based on NeXT and not BeOS, which would have, arguably, put OS X even further ahead of its competition back then.</p>
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		<title>By: daemon</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902173</link>
		<dc:creator>daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;OS X is NeXT refined. It was ahead of Vista in some ways 18 years ago.

The base of Nextstep was BSD 4.x, the base of Mac OS X is FreeBSD. These are the essential parts of the OS.

&gt;It was just too advanced for the world to “get.”

It was to expensive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;OS X is NeXT refined. It was ahead of Vista in some ways 18 years ago.</p>
<p>The base of Nextstep was BSD 4.x, the base of Mac OS X is FreeBSD. These are the essential parts of the OS.</p>
<p>&gt;It was just too advanced for the world to “get.”</p>
<p>It was to expensive!</p>
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		<title>By: ilde</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902168</link>
		<dc:creator>ilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Push a little bit more on the hardware revolution, please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Push a little bit more on the hardware revolution, please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this is the third act. I don&#039;t know where you got the idea he heart wasn&#039;t in the NeXT, but that&#039;s bunk.

He tried desperately to make the NeXT the platform of choice in education, publishing, the financial markets, etc. Sun and IBM and Alpha all wanted to license the OS. Things didn&#039;t work out, but it wasn&#039;t because he heart wasn&#039;t in it. It was just too advanced for the world to &quot;get.&quot;

OS X is NeXT refined. It was ahead of Vista in some ways 18 years ago. It still is. I used NeXT for Intel for fun for a while. Cool stuff. Glad he&#039;s still cranking out the best computers and OS around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is the third act. I don&#8217;t know where you got the idea he heart wasn&#8217;t in the NeXT, but that&#8217;s bunk.</p>
<p>He tried desperately to make the NeXT the platform of choice in education, publishing, the financial markets, etc. Sun and IBM and Alpha all wanted to license the OS. Things didn&#8217;t work out, but it wasn&#8217;t because he heart wasn&#8217;t in it. It was just too advanced for the world to &#8220;get.&#8221;</p>
<p>OS X is NeXT refined. It was ahead of Vista in some ways 18 years ago. It still is. I used NeXT for Intel for fun for a while. Cool stuff. Glad he&#8217;s still cranking out the best computers and OS around.</p>
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		<title>By: California Lottery Past Winning Numbers</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/16/today-in-history-steve-jobs-returns-to-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-902061</link>
		<dc:creator>California Lottery Past Winning Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now we have, ipods, imacs, macbooks, iphones, itune...thks Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now we have, ipods, imacs, macbooks, iphones, itune&#8230;thks Steve</p>
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