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	<title>Comments on: Confirmed: iPhone 3G hack &#8211; buy, cancel contract, keep phone &#8211; sort of works</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL!!! ur right C.stark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL!!! ur right C.stark</p>
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		<title>By: allielee1</title>
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		<dc:creator>allielee1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I activated 3 lines with AT&amp;T, 2 Samsungs and 1 iPhone. We realized that they have no coverage in my brother&#039;s apt in NH so I cancelled all 3 lines. They are returning their phone in NH and I might be returning my iPhone here in MA. We cancelled within 3 days, so no act fees or term fees. We will barely have a bill because it will be prorated to 2 or 3 days of service. I have 30 days to return the iphone with a $20 restocking fee. But if I do not return the iPhone, will they charge me the ETF or the subsidized amount. Is is worth it to keep it and pay the diff and unlock it to use with T-Mo? Hmmmm......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I activated 3 lines with AT&amp;T, 2 Samsungs and 1 iPhone. We realized that they have no coverage in my brother&#8217;s apt in NH so I cancelled all 3 lines. They are returning their phone in NH and I might be returning my iPhone here in MA. We cancelled within 3 days, so no act fees or term fees. We will barely have a bill because it will be prorated to 2 or 3 days of service. I have 30 days to return the iphone with a $20 restocking fee. But if I do not return the iPhone, will they charge me the ETF or the subsidized amount. Is is worth it to keep it and pay the diff and unlock it to use with T-Mo? Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>GQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for Megs:  if I give a person with att the money to buy a phone for me, won&#039;t they be forced to pay for an extra line, data plan, etc, AND a termination fee??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for Megs:  if I give a person with att the money to buy a phone for me, won&#8217;t they be forced to pay for an extra line, data plan, etc, AND a termination fee??</p>
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		<title>By: c.stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>c.stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else catch that? Throughout the post Megs refers to At&amp;t in the third person, until in one particular sentence something slips out… 

&quot;At&amp;t now has a specialized “ifraud” dept in which we track iphone accounts.&quot; –Megs 

Megs is clearly an At&amp;t spy! Watch what you say, big brother is watching…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else catch that? Throughout the post Megs refers to At&amp;t in the third person, until in one particular sentence something slips out… </p>
<p>&#8220;At&amp;t now has a specialized “ifraud” dept in which we track iphone accounts.&#8221; –Megs </p>
<p>Megs is clearly an At&amp;t spy! Watch what you say, big brother is watching…</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scare tactics have never worked in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scare tactics have never worked in history.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is exactly right.  You can then unlock and sell it or use it with att and no contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is exactly right.  You can then unlock and sell it or use it with att and no contract.</p>
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		<title>By: KSwe</title>
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		<dc:creator>KSwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone obviously doesnt know how to commit fraud properly. Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone obviously doesnt know how to commit fraud properly. Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: boyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>boyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually won&#039;t hurt your credit because you are paying the termination fee. If you did not pay the termination fee then it would be sent to collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually won&#8217;t hurt your credit because you are paying the termination fee. If you did not pay the termination fee then it would be sent to collection.</p>
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		<title>By: kircho</title>
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		<dc:creator>kircho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I forgot the prorated amount for the 1 more day of service after the first month. The final number is still under $500 though,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I forgot the prorated amount for the 1 more day of service after the first month. The final number is still under $500 though,</p>
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		<title>By: kircho</title>
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		<dc:creator>kircho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Meg,

Lots of word. Wow! 

From your explanation is clear that it is totally legit and safe to:

1. Get an iPhone for $199+tax (around $215).
2. Pay $36 for activation.
3. Pay $70 for 1 month data+voice.
4. Cancel in 1 month and 1 day.
5. Pay ETF of 175.
6. Keep your iPhone for a total of less than $500 while having enjoyed a month of data and voice service from AT&amp;T.

Does this seem right?

I can decide on my own whether the $100 price difference and the 1 month data+voice service is worth the trouble of getting into contract and then terminating it. Comments on that won&#039;t be necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Meg,</p>
<p>Lots of word. Wow! </p>
<p>From your explanation is clear that it is totally legit and safe to:</p>
<p>1. Get an iPhone for $199+tax (around $215).<br />
2. Pay $36 for activation.<br />
3. Pay $70 for 1 month data+voice.<br />
4. Cancel in 1 month and 1 day.<br />
5. Pay ETF of 175.<br />
6. Keep your iPhone for a total of less than $500 while having enjoyed a month of data and voice service from AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>Does this seem right?</p>
<p>I can decide on my own whether the $100 price difference and the 1 month data+voice service is worth the trouble of getting into contract and then terminating it. Comments on that won&#8217;t be necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Megs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the fraud with the iphone recently, at&amp;t has taken stronger measures.

First of all, if you purchase an iphone (16g 3GS) you pay the 199+tax. They will run your credit, depending on the score a deposit may be required. The MINIMUM plan is the 450mins and the REQUIRED 30.00 data package. Trust me, PLENTY of people call in to try to take it off, and it works... for a very short time. If you put your SIM card into the iphone you may not see charges on your first or second bill. But they DO find the iphone. Not only will the data plan be added back on (nothing you dispute:its in your contract) you will also be charged and held liable for ALL pay-per-use data charges on that phone. The data package is not required bc att wants to make money. It is required b/c the phone was built to have all updates and applications run using the internet. Even sending SMS or placing a call requires data.  If the internet was blocked on the phone, it would work for a short time, but then stop. Those people who claim to be purchasing iphones and selling them to make a profit are also being caught. At&amp;t now has a specialized &quot;ifraud&quot; dept in which we track iphone accounts. Again, you may not be found at first... however they do find you.... and if the account is cancelled w/a waived ETF they will do one of two things: charge the ETF... or (if the account was cancelled w/less than 30 days service) reactivate the account. They will send you a courtesy message explaining that you may call in after the 30 days to cancel the account but still be charged the early termination fee as per your contractual agreement and the fact that you did not return the phone. You will not get that message if you sold the phone. That leaves your account active and accumulating more charges and resulting in being cancelled for nonpayment, charged the etf and ending up in collections and being sent to an outside collection agency. If you think you can find a way around that system, good luck. The only person who was able to commit said fraud successfully is now working with the iphone fraud department... after he finished his sentence... Do you really want to bother with this when the phone is only 600.00 without a contract? If you want to unlock it just ask a friend w/att service to purchase one for you and give them the money. Less hassle, no negative credit or additional consequences and you have your iphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the fraud with the iphone recently, at&amp;t has taken stronger measures.</p>
<p>First of all, if you purchase an iphone (16g 3GS) you pay the 199+tax. They will run your credit, depending on the score a deposit may be required. The MINIMUM plan is the 450mins and the REQUIRED 30.00 data package. Trust me, PLENTY of people call in to try to take it off, and it works&#8230; for a very short time. If you put your SIM card into the iphone you may not see charges on your first or second bill. But they DO find the iphone. Not only will the data plan be added back on (nothing you dispute:its in your contract) you will also be charged and held liable for ALL pay-per-use data charges on that phone. The data package is not required bc att wants to make money. It is required b/c the phone was built to have all updates and applications run using the internet. Even sending SMS or placing a call requires data.  If the internet was blocked on the phone, it would work for a short time, but then stop. Those people who claim to be purchasing iphones and selling them to make a profit are also being caught. At&amp;t now has a specialized &#8220;ifraud&#8221; dept in which we track iphone accounts. Again, you may not be found at first&#8230; however they do find you&#8230;. and if the account is cancelled w/a waived ETF they will do one of two things: charge the ETF&#8230; or (if the account was cancelled w/less than 30 days service) reactivate the account. They will send you a courtesy message explaining that you may call in after the 30 days to cancel the account but still be charged the early termination fee as per your contractual agreement and the fact that you did not return the phone. You will not get that message if you sold the phone. That leaves your account active and accumulating more charges and resulting in being cancelled for nonpayment, charged the etf and ending up in collections and being sent to an outside collection agency. If you think you can find a way around that system, good luck. The only person who was able to commit said fraud successfully is now working with the iphone fraud department&#8230; after he finished his sentence&#8230; Do you really want to bother with this when the phone is only 600.00 without a contract? If you want to unlock it just ask a friend w/att service to purchase one for you and give them the money. Less hassle, no negative credit or additional consequences and you have your iphone.</p>
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		<title>By: iphone enthusiast</title>
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		<dc:creator>iphone enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iphone 3g 16gb 299

cheapest voice plan $39.99

data plan (mandatory) $30

activation fee $36

early termination fee $170

total around $570</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iphone 3g 16gb 299</p>
<p>cheapest voice plan $39.99</p>
<p>data plan (mandatory) $30</p>
<p>activation fee $36</p>
<p>early termination fee $170</p>
<p>total around $570</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello everybody. i have a couple of questions. 
1) if i&#039;m buying the iphone with a two-year contract it would be just a $213? or i have to spend some more money for activating? can&#039;t get it.
2) can i buy, for  example, more than 3 iphones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello everybody. i have a couple of questions.<br />
1) if i&#8217;m buying the iphone with a two-year contract it would be just a $213? or i have to spend some more money for activating? can&#8217;t get it.<br />
2) can i buy, for  example, more than 3 iphones?</p>
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		<title>By: jfa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 06:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@new to this !!!   did you cancel your service via phone or in the store??? and than they let you keep the phone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@new to this !!!   did you cancel your service via phone or in the store??? and than they let you keep the phone</p>
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		<title>By: webtech</title>
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		<dc:creator>webtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought my 3G iPhone from Greece last month. It has really wonderful features, I enjoy it. You can contact to good person who can help you out. Here is his email ID zoomobileslimited@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought my 3G iPhone from Greece last month. It has really wonderful features, I enjoy it. You can contact to good person who can help you out. Here is his email ID <a href="mailto:zoomobileslimited@gmail.com">zoomobileslimited@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sharee</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes how exactly did you do this? I hear that you can not do that so what worked for you but failed for other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes how exactly did you do this? I hear that you can not do that so what worked for you but failed for other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you explain? where did you buy it, online in store?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you explain? where did you buy it, online in store?</p>
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		<title>By: New to this</title>
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		<dc:creator>New to this</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think u all are wrong to day is Jan. 31 2009. i have had my iphone one week and i cancelled my contract with them. they didnt say anything but why do i wanted to do that. NOW I HAVE AN IPHONE THAT I PAYED ONLY 300 for and no cancellance fee. i dont know what u ppl are doing wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i think u all are wrong to day is Jan. 31 2009. i have had my iphone one week and i cancelled my contract with them. they didnt say anything but why do i wanted to do that. NOW I HAVE AN IPHONE THAT I PAYED ONLY 300 for and no cancellance fee. i dont know what u ppl are doing wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>480 to break 8 gig contract 

580 to break 16 gig contract. 

end. 

credit ruined?

your call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>480 to break 8 gig contract </p>
<p>580 to break 16 gig contract. </p>
<p>end. </p>
<p>credit ruined?</p>
<p>your call.</p>
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		<title>By: veeraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>veeraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi i want a friend whos based in the us to buy an iphone 3g, cancel the contract after 30 days and then send it to me. he claims it will cost him around 650 dollars excluding the shipping. can someone please give me exact breakup of the costs invovled like the initial cost, first month service cost and the termination fee. how much will it actually add too?? really want an iphone fast....please help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i want a friend whos based in the us to buy an iphone 3g, cancel the contract after 30 days and then send it to me. he claims it will cost him around 650 dollars excluding the shipping. can someone please give me exact breakup of the costs invovled like the initial cost, first month service cost and the termination fee. how much will it actually add too?? really want an iphone fast&#8230;.please help</p>
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