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	<title>Comments on: Swoopo: &#8220;Entertainment Shopping&#8221; or Scam?</title>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-4/#comment-1143837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a gambling scam or a scam in general. People are just stupid and can&#039;t control themselves. This is an amazing idea. Those that came up this are only exploiting people&#039;s lack of self control and stupidity.

So if you don&#039;t like it, then don&#039;t bid. It&#039;s that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a gambling scam or a scam in general. People are just stupid and can&#8217;t control themselves. This is an amazing idea. Those that came up this are only exploiting people&#8217;s lack of self control and stupidity.</p>
<p>So if you don&#8217;t like it, then don&#8217;t bid. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1138243</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am telling EVERYONE about this scamming site. I have bid on a total of 4 item on it. 
1 item was a digital camera. There was about 5 seconds left I pushed the bid button and the damn thing froze. I wrote in a complaint to Swoopo and they e-mailed me back saying there was technical difficulties and all they would do for me is return my bids (I have the e-mai lfrom the scam artists if anyone would like to see it). I didn&#039;t want the damn bids, I wanted the item I was bidding on at a reduced price. This happened in September.
Another item I was bidding on, (In November) had the same result. 5 seconds left on the timer, Pushed the bid button and the damn thing froze again. Bitched to them again and again they said there was technical difficulties and refunded my bids. (Have another letter to prove that too.)
My questions are:
1. if this site is making so much money, Why are these technical difficulties not getting fixed?
2. How many times has this happened to other people and they not said anything?
3. Where are these winners from that win the items or is there even winners and not just Swoopo computers or &quot;Bots&quot; winning the items?

Now, I am just going to go and waste my bids on something stupid...... CAUSE I AM NEVER GOING TO GO TO THIS SITE AGAIN!!! CAN&#039;T EVEN GET A REFUND ON MY BIDS CAUSE THEY ARE REFUNDED BIDS!!! I am going to tell everyone I know about this terrible scam site and tell them to stay away!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am telling EVERYONE about this scamming site. I have bid on a total of 4 item on it.<br />
1 item was a digital camera. There was about 5 seconds left I pushed the bid button and the damn thing froze. I wrote in a complaint to Swoopo and they e-mailed me back saying there was technical difficulties and all they would do for me is return my bids (I have the e-mai lfrom the scam artists if anyone would like to see it). I didn&#8217;t want the damn bids, I wanted the item I was bidding on at a reduced price. This happened in September.<br />
Another item I was bidding on, (In November) had the same result. 5 seconds left on the timer, Pushed the bid button and the damn thing froze again. Bitched to them again and again they said there was technical difficulties and refunded my bids. (Have another letter to prove that too.)<br />
My questions are:<br />
1. if this site is making so much money, Why are these technical difficulties not getting fixed?<br />
2. How many times has this happened to other people and they not said anything?<br />
3. Where are these winners from that win the items or is there even winners and not just Swoopo computers or &#8220;Bots&#8221; winning the items?</p>
<p>Now, I am just going to go and waste my bids on something stupid&#8230;&#8230; CAUSE I AM NEVER GOING TO GO TO THIS SITE AGAIN!!! CAN&#8217;T EVEN GET A REFUND ON MY BIDS CAUSE THEY ARE REFUNDED BIDS!!! I am going to tell everyone I know about this terrible scam site and tell them to stay away!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: thehammer</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1137562</link>
		<dc:creator>thehammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally my favorite is http://www.5050auctions.com.  I&#039;ve won the most stuff there, and seem to consistently win.  Plus they&#039;re the only ones I know that actually give you back half your bids after you win an item, so you really only spend half the bids...if you win...
Also their shipping is super fast, and it&#039;s fun.  Like anything else though I don&#039;t go for more than I can afford, and I know what I&#039;m doing prior to doing it.  Good luck.  If you see me bidding, stay away!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally my favorite is <a href="http://www.5050auctions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.5050auctions.com</a>.  I&#8217;ve won the most stuff there, and seem to consistently win.  Plus they&#8217;re the only ones I know that actually give you back half your bids after you win an item, so you really only spend half the bids&#8230;if you win&#8230;<br />
Also their shipping is super fast, and it&#8217;s fun.  Like anything else though I don&#8217;t go for more than I can afford, and I know what I&#8217;m doing prior to doing it.  Good luck.  If you see me bidding, stay away!!</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1127180</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies &amp; Gentlemen, PLEASEEEEEEEEEE I request you, DO NOT fall for this SCAM !!! Stop wasting your hard working monies towards a day dream, It&#039;s even worse than gambling; I really feel sorry for all these people losing tons of money everyday, and still taking them long to understand that they are being jacked. It took me only a few bids and few hours of very close observations - That&#039;s all. Just do yourself the favor.....

Who are those &quot;BidButlers&quot;??  Yes, it&#039;s true that some could be one of us (since they have that option), but would it be wrong to say that some/most of them are running by their own people? Is it that impossible for them??  (even it&#039;s a physical bid made by a real person, so called &quot;SingleBid&quot;). They could easily control any auction with their own bids to bring the price up to certain levels. After reaching upto 400/500% (or even more) profits perhaps they let it go for the real bidders. People - please stop trying to to bid against them constantly just by looking the the auction price thinking the winning bids are just a few clicks away. 

count the bids at the end after losing the auction and see how much you lost ( or even after you&#039;ve won). just a simple little example from NOV 4th, 09. http://www.swoopo.com/auction/madden-nfl-2010-ps3-/238939.html. 

Auction Price:  $33.48  
All prices are in US Dollars 
Bidder: Dave456 
   Auction ended 
on Nov-04-2009, at 02:11 PDT   
Dave456 won with 89 Bids 
and saved 0% ! Worth up to: $59.99 
Placed bids (89):  $53.40 
FreeBids (0): $0.00 
Auction price: $33.48 
 
Savings: $0.00 

The original selling cost of this MADDEN NFL 10 game was 59.99. The &quot;winner&quot; posted total bid worth of $53.40, and the winning price was $33.48 + $4.90 shipping. 

($53.40 + $33.48+$4.90 = yo do the math), and compare with their original selling price of $59.99 + $4.99. How much did he save? Would you still &quot;Congratulate&quot; him??

Now, it&#039;s possible that they can claim that few &quot;real&quot; people do get some bargain every now and then and are all happy about it. But, is it absurd to say that these giveaways are working as some sort of advertisements for them, so they can add some more unlucky people into their entertainment scam?

Why aren&#039;t they being investigated? How they are still getting the fun out of looting people? Why most of the very low priced winners are by &quot;BidButlers&quot;, and some ends in just a few bids? When the price isn&#039;t going up faster because there aren&#039;t enough real bidders in the auction who are those 2/3 BidButlers post 30/40 bids in just a second to raise up the time few minutes so others can join?
How do they know when exactly to close the bid so other new bidders can&#039;t join that particular auction?  How can they call themselves legit? Why people are falling for these piece of crap over and over? When was the last time a person were actually able to interact with the winners of the auction or, others so called users? Who is backing this business up? Why Paypal is supporting them and hurting their reputation? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a lolipop???? ..........The world may never know!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies &amp; Gentlemen, PLEASEEEEEEEEEE I request you, DO NOT fall for this SCAM !!! Stop wasting your hard working monies towards a day dream, It&#8217;s even worse than gambling; I really feel sorry for all these people losing tons of money everyday, and still taking them long to understand that they are being jacked. It took me only a few bids and few hours of very close observations &#8211; That&#8217;s all. Just do yourself the favor&#8230;..</p>
<p>Who are those &#8220;BidButlers&#8221;??  Yes, it&#8217;s true that some could be one of us (since they have that option), but would it be wrong to say that some/most of them are running by their own people? Is it that impossible for them??  (even it&#8217;s a physical bid made by a real person, so called &#8220;SingleBid&#8221;). They could easily control any auction with their own bids to bring the price up to certain levels. After reaching upto 400/500% (or even more) profits perhaps they let it go for the real bidders. People &#8211; please stop trying to to bid against them constantly just by looking the the auction price thinking the winning bids are just a few clicks away. </p>
<p>count the bids at the end after losing the auction and see how much you lost ( or even after you&#8217;ve won). just a simple little example from NOV 4th, 09. <a href="http://www.swoopo.com/auction/madden-nfl-2010-ps3-/238939.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.swoopo.com/auction/madden-nfl-2010-ps3-/238939.html</a>. </p>
<p>Auction Price:  $33.48<br />
All prices are in US Dollars<br />
Bidder: Dave456<br />
   Auction ended<br />
on Nov-04-2009, at 02:11 PDT<br />
Dave456 won with 89 Bids<br />
and saved 0% ! Worth up to: $59.99<br />
Placed bids (89):  $53.40<br />
FreeBids (0): $0.00<br />
Auction price: $33.48 </p>
<p>Savings: $0.00 </p>
<p>The original selling cost of this MADDEN NFL 10 game was 59.99. The &#8220;winner&#8221; posted total bid worth of $53.40, and the winning price was $33.48 + $4.90 shipping. </p>
<p>($53.40 + $33.48+$4.90 = yo do the math), and compare with their original selling price of $59.99 + $4.99. How much did he save? Would you still &#8220;Congratulate&#8221; him??</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s possible that they can claim that few &#8220;real&#8221; people do get some bargain every now and then and are all happy about it. But, is it absurd to say that these giveaways are working as some sort of advertisements for them, so they can add some more unlucky people into their entertainment scam?</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t they being investigated? How they are still getting the fun out of looting people? Why most of the very low priced winners are by &#8220;BidButlers&#8221;, and some ends in just a few bids? When the price isn&#8217;t going up faster because there aren&#8217;t enough real bidders in the auction who are those 2/3 BidButlers post 30/40 bids in just a second to raise up the time few minutes so others can join?<br />
How do they know when exactly to close the bid so other new bidders can&#8217;t join that particular auction?  How can they call themselves legit? Why people are falling for these piece of crap over and over? When was the last time a person were actually able to interact with the winners of the auction or, others so called users? Who is backing this business up? Why Paypal is supporting them and hurting their reputation? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a lolipop???? &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.The world may never know!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean  Chaudhry</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1126651</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean  Chaudhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why hasn&#039;t anyone seen the photo of a &quot;winner&quot;?? Also the city they reside in?? Happens with lottery winners. I think 60 minutes or 48 hours should do a documentary on this! Basically it&#039;s a total scam! Needs to be investigated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why hasn&#8217;t anyone seen the photo of a &#8220;winner&#8221;?? Also the city they reside in?? Happens with lottery winners. I think 60 minutes or 48 hours should do a documentary on this! Basically it&#8217;s a total scam! Needs to be investigated!</p>
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		<title>By: entertainment shopping</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1119643</link>
		<dc:creator>entertainment shopping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swoop is definitely legit. But judging from their Facebook fan page. Many of their customers aren&#039;t too happy with the service. Or lack thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swoop is definitely legit. But judging from their Facebook fan page. Many of their customers aren&#8217;t too happy with the service. Or lack thereof.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua James</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1110819</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I have to say is its real funny how you can view a ended auction that had huge savings of like 98% and only 6bids placed to win...  Huge profit right!!!!!! You will notice on lots of these  low ending auctions are won by some one with a BidButler.  I dont see how anyone in there right mind cant relize how big of a scam it is!!!!!! Even if it isnt there key to the scam BidButler that won, why wouldnt any of the other 10 people bidding not make a bid for 15cents more for a 800 dollar laptop that had a ended auction of $5.82 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Give me a break guys this is crazy might as well go to one of those online slot machines!!!!!   LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL 

Allwaysinvestigate.com I wonder if that is a actually website ...Now there&#039;s in idea.........

Also thank you fourm.......... 

Joshua James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I have to say is its real funny how you can view a ended auction that had huge savings of like 98% and only 6bids placed to win&#8230;  Huge profit right!!!!!! You will notice on lots of these  low ending auctions are won by some one with a BidButler.  I dont see how anyone in there right mind cant relize how big of a scam it is!!!!!! Even if it isnt there key to the scam BidButler that won, why wouldnt any of the other 10 people bidding not make a bid for 15cents more for a 800 dollar laptop that had a ended auction of $5.82 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Give me a break guys this is crazy might as well go to one of those online slot machines!!!!!   LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL </p>
<p>Allwaysinvestigate.com I wonder if that is a actually website &#8230;Now there&#8217;s in idea&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Also thank you fourm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>Joshua James</p>
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		<title>By: Swoopo or PooPo?</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1106874</link>
		<dc:creator>Swoopo or PooPo?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you all inflate the numbers you say they have 50,000 Users you moron they have between 160 and 238 Users right now , with about a few dozen that do 90 percent of the bidding.

I tried it , I lost and its a scam.  Stop even trying to inflate the numbers to something it isn&#039;t like the other google losers claiming millions of visits to their website a day only to have a closer look that 90 percent of the traffic again wasn&#039;t even on the site more than .5 or so of a second which means it was faked with a traffic generator.

I believe swoopo is just a division of some more retarded google employees using their free time or a google subdivision most definately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you all inflate the numbers you say they have 50,000 Users you moron they have between 160 and 238 Users right now , with about a few dozen that do 90 percent of the bidding.</p>
<p>I tried it , I lost and its a scam.  Stop even trying to inflate the numbers to something it isn&#8217;t like the other google losers claiming millions of visits to their website a day only to have a closer look that 90 percent of the traffic again wasn&#8217;t even on the site more than .5 or so of a second which means it was faked with a traffic generator.</p>
<p>I believe swoopo is just a division of some more retarded google employees using their free time or a google subdivision most definately.</p>
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		<title>By: James Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1104427</link>
		<dc:creator>James Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penny auctions are not the right environment for some people and that&#039;s okay.  The people that do try these type of auctions out are getting great deals.  In fact, you see a lot of the same people on the different sites winning lots of new products for cheap.  I think people are making a living off of this and probably making more than I do in a day!  I think it can be fun to play and win on these sites and it really doesn&#039;t have to cost that much.  There are sites like bidblink that offer bids between 10-15 cents.   Swoopo has charges $0.60 per bid and doesn&#039;t offer any discounts on larger bid packages.  Ehhh.. there&#039;s something for everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny auctions are not the right environment for some people and that&#8217;s okay.  The people that do try these type of auctions out are getting great deals.  In fact, you see a lot of the same people on the different sites winning lots of new products for cheap.  I think people are making a living off of this and probably making more than I do in a day!  I think it can be fun to play and win on these sites and it really doesn&#8217;t have to cost that much.  There are sites like bidblink that offer bids between 10-15 cents.   Swoopo has charges $0.60 per bid and doesn&#8217;t offer any discounts on larger bid packages.  Ehhh.. there&#8217;s something for everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1102252</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a winner to have a TV 5 months ago. But they sent me a camera, used and refurbished TV. I had retuning item 3 times, 2 times my expensive. I am still waiting old model TV fell price. They had scammed me. I am really considering having claim against internet FBI or lawsuit. I had kept all documents (a lot of e-mails, photos, movie files, history of shipping &amp; handle for returning, Refurbished UPC labels). I want to ask someone having experiences like me. When I receive the TV, I will upload a movie modified history on Youtube(like to buy bidpacks, but fail and someone had a hp notebook of top of price), Myspace, Fliker &amp; Twitter web site. I hate Swoopo Auction and believe that they scam. Don&#039;t bid in Swoopo Auction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a winner to have a TV 5 months ago. But they sent me a camera, used and refurbished TV. I had retuning item 3 times, 2 times my expensive. I am still waiting old model TV fell price. They had scammed me. I am really considering having claim against internet FBI or lawsuit. I had kept all documents (a lot of e-mails, photos, movie files, history of shipping &amp; handle for returning, Refurbished UPC labels). I want to ask someone having experiences like me. When I receive the TV, I will upload a movie modified history on Youtube(like to buy bidpacks, but fail and someone had a hp notebook of top of price), Myspace, Fliker &amp; Twitter web site. I hate Swoopo Auction and believe that they scam. Don&#8217;t bid in Swoopo Auction.</p>
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		<title>By: Shells</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1100262</link>
		<dc:creator>Shells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they have past Ebay, it&#039;s a different concept. if you want to learn about them go to Pennyauctionwatch.com you will find out who the scammers are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they have past Ebay, it&#8217;s a different concept. if you want to learn about them go to Pennyauctionwatch.com you will find out who the scammers are.</p>
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		<title>By: Shells</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1100261</link>
		<dc:creator>Shells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to learn about penny auctions go to, Pennyauctionwatch.com, swoopo is way over populated and difficult to win.  I use a good strategy and have won things like DVDs to laptops. If people want to spend their money on Golf or penny auctions, that&#039;s their business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to learn about penny auctions go to, Pennyauctionwatch.com, swoopo is way over populated and difficult to win.  I use a good strategy and have won things like DVDs to laptops. If people want to spend their money on Golf or penny auctions, that&#8217;s their business.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1094834</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who says it is a scam is a complete moron.  Are casinos scams? Because essentially that&#039;s what swoopo is- a place where you can gamble and if you lose, too bad. I don&#039;t see you going and yelling at Caesar&#039;s because you lost 1,000 in the slots and calling them a scam. Learn to bid, or stop complaining. Yeah I agree with the fact it isnt 100% a gamble, but its a risk that you need to be willing to man up and face. 

There is a bit of skill involved in this that people dont get. Bid Butlers DO NOTHING for anyone except the site since about 5-10 bid at the same exact time, it just jacks up the price and wastes your bids. Next thing you know, it has wasted about 10 of your bids and you&#039;re pissed off at your own stupidity and taking it out on the site. 

And before you accuse anyone of scamming you out of your cash, remember that you got a legitimate good for your money. Bids are a good, and as long as you agree to purchase them, you can&#039;t call the site a scam. Yeah, if they didnt give you the item or bids you won, then they&#039;re a scam, but if you just lost and feel like bitching about it, learn to man the hell up and accept the fact that your ignorance and stupidity messed you up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who says it is a scam is a complete moron.  Are casinos scams? Because essentially that&#8217;s what swoopo is- a place where you can gamble and if you lose, too bad. I don&#8217;t see you going and yelling at Caesar&#8217;s because you lost 1,000 in the slots and calling them a scam. Learn to bid, or stop complaining. Yeah I agree with the fact it isnt 100% a gamble, but its a risk that you need to be willing to man up and face. </p>
<p>There is a bit of skill involved in this that people dont get. Bid Butlers DO NOTHING for anyone except the site since about 5-10 bid at the same exact time, it just jacks up the price and wastes your bids. Next thing you know, it has wasted about 10 of your bids and you&#8217;re pissed off at your own stupidity and taking it out on the site. </p>
<p>And before you accuse anyone of scamming you out of your cash, remember that you got a legitimate good for your money. Bids are a good, and as long as you agree to purchase them, you can&#8217;t call the site a scam. Yeah, if they didnt give you the item or bids you won, then they&#8217;re a scam, but if you just lost and feel like bitching about it, learn to man the hell up and accept the fact that your ignorance and stupidity messed you up</p>
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		<title>By: mikeck</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1090706</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swoopo is not a scam. They get paid for every bid then use that total to pay for the item. I dont use swoopo though i use http://muulu.com ALOT cheaper at 50 cents per bid, and every 4 lost bids give you 1 more bid, so for example you buy get 50 bids you get 12.50 extra bids or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swoopo is not a scam. They get paid for every bid then use that total to pay for the item. I dont use swoopo though i use <a href="http://muulu.com" rel="nofollow">http://muulu.com</a> ALOT cheaper at 50 cents per bid, and every 4 lost bids give you 1 more bid, so for example you buy get 50 bids you get 12.50 extra bids or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: mal</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1089824</link>
		<dc:creator>mal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L@@K!!!          THE REAL SCAM is internet LAG???
If your bid has not been accepted because the countdown froze etc and you LOSE but you feel cheated you have been..... If it was LAG then the so called auction would have ended..........So Why IS MONEY DEDUCTED FROM YOUR ACCOUNT FOR THAT BID IF BY THE TIME THE SIGNAL REACHED SWOOPOS SERVER THE AUCTION HAS ENDED???????????????? BUT THEY STILL TAKE MONEY...........MILLIONS OF YOUR MONEY AND YOU DO NOTHING..........BAA BAA DO AS YOUR TOLD DO NOT COMPLAIN.  Give me your money and I will invest it for you.
sort....00.22.00
a/c.....37455250         TA ever so x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L@@K!!!          THE REAL SCAM is internet LAG???<br />
If your bid has not been accepted because the countdown froze etc and you LOSE but you feel cheated you have been&#8230;.. If it was LAG then the so called auction would have ended&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.So Why IS MONEY DEDUCTED FROM YOUR ACCOUNT FOR THAT BID IF BY THE TIME THE SIGNAL REACHED SWOOPOS SERVER THE AUCTION HAS ENDED???????????????? BUT THEY STILL TAKE MONEY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..MILLIONS OF YOUR MONEY AND YOU DO NOTHING&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.BAA BAA DO AS YOUR TOLD DO NOT COMPLAIN.  Give me your money and I will invest it for you.<br />
sort&#8230;.00.22.00<br />
a/c&#8230;..37455250         TA ever so x</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1080846</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
  

HASTENO.COM special week! Top three bidders will get credits back! The winner will get 25% back+ item, second 50%, third 25% this week only! NEW &quot;Bids&quot; price! &quot;Bids&quot; cost only $0.60 US cent.

Happy bidding
HASTENO.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>HASTENO.COM special week! Top three bidders will get credits back! The winner will get 25% back+ item, second 50%, third 25% this week only! NEW &#8220;Bids&#8221; price! &#8220;Bids&#8221; cost only $0.60 US cent.</p>
<p>Happy bidding<br />
HASTENO.com</p>
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		<title>By: The good guy!</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1079698</link>
		<dc:creator>The good guy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my analysis for the past few days, this is what I conclude about the site Swappo.com:

It is a legitimate site, but I don’t think it is “entertainment shopping” for the casual shopper (henceforth referred to as the “chump”). 

There are only two winners in this site:

- Swappo itself, it makes a decent amount of money collecting all the paid for bids left over by the chumps. And some money leftover by the professionals (see below)

- And the professional bidder, these are individuals or groups (talk about collusion!) that will takeover an auction – NO MATTER WHAT! – They will outbid the chump each and every time. Why? Since they bid on so many auctions – they get some products at massive discount and on others they overpay by a few dollars. When they average out their winnings – THEY will come out ahead. Losing an auction for the professional would be showing their weakness and THEY WILL NEVER SHOW THEIR WEAKNESS. They will keep placing their bids until the chump gives up! THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN!!!! (If you are a chump who goes against these giants – you will fail. If they do let you win – you would have paid more than the product is worth!!!). These people have thousands of bids in their accounts as opposed to few hundreds that the chumps have in theirs (Think of it this way: you might have a 24 caliber pistol but the professional brings a bazooka to the auction!!!)

An aside – some of the auctions end at enticingly low prices – do you know why? – The chumps have given up too early and the professional has walked out with a mega bargain!!!

With this setup the casual shopper will ALWAYS LOSE – ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS! If you do get “LUCKY” consider it a lightening strike!

The people at Swappo.com might have started out with a good intention of providing “entertainment shopping” – but the end result will be this: the site will get taken over by professionals – not before a lot of amateurs “chumps” have lost a lot of money! Eventually the business model will fail – there is no doubt about that! (I don’t think the chumps are dumb enough to support this site forever! – some of these hapless people will probably file law suits!!!)

Here is my conclusion, bid in Swappo.com if you below to one of these categories:
1) You are a professional (way to go man! or woman!)
2) You live in a Manhattan penthouse and have a trust fund, and your hobby is smoking weed.

OR ELSE 

Run as fast as you can from this site, it will ruin you faster than Las Vegas. Do your “entertainment” shopping on either Amazon.com or Buy.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my analysis for the past few days, this is what I conclude about the site Swappo.com:</p>
<p>It is a legitimate site, but I don’t think it is “entertainment shopping” for the casual shopper (henceforth referred to as the “chump”). </p>
<p>There are only two winners in this site:</p>
<p>- Swappo itself, it makes a decent amount of money collecting all the paid for bids left over by the chumps. And some money leftover by the professionals (see below)</p>
<p>- And the professional bidder, these are individuals or groups (talk about collusion!) that will takeover an auction – NO MATTER WHAT! – They will outbid the chump each and every time. Why? Since they bid on so many auctions – they get some products at massive discount and on others they overpay by a few dollars. When they average out their winnings – THEY will come out ahead. Losing an auction for the professional would be showing their weakness and THEY WILL NEVER SHOW THEIR WEAKNESS. They will keep placing their bids until the chump gives up! THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN!!!! (If you are a chump who goes against these giants – you will fail. If they do let you win – you would have paid more than the product is worth!!!). These people have thousands of bids in their accounts as opposed to few hundreds that the chumps have in theirs (Think of it this way: you might have a 24 caliber pistol but the professional brings a bazooka to the auction!!!)</p>
<p>An aside – some of the auctions end at enticingly low prices – do you know why? – The chumps have given up too early and the professional has walked out with a mega bargain!!!</p>
<p>With this setup the casual shopper will ALWAYS LOSE – ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS! If you do get “LUCKY” consider it a lightening strike!</p>
<p>The people at Swappo.com might have started out with a good intention of providing “entertainment shopping” – but the end result will be this: the site will get taken over by professionals – not before a lot of amateurs “chumps” have lost a lot of money! Eventually the business model will fail – there is no doubt about that! (I don’t think the chumps are dumb enough to support this site forever! – some of these hapless people will probably file law suits!!!)</p>
<p>Here is my conclusion, bid in Swappo.com if you below to one of these categories:<br />
1) You are a professional (way to go man! or woman!)<br />
2) You live in a Manhattan penthouse and have a trust fund, and your hobby is smoking weed.</p>
<p>OR ELSE </p>
<p>Run as fast as you can from this site, it will ruin you faster than Las Vegas. Do your “entertainment” shopping on either Amazon.com or Buy.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley C.</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1067266</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about bidding cool items for 10 cents per click?
I think it&#039;s fair: http://www.for10cents.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about bidding cool items for 10 cents per click?<br />
I think it&#8217;s fair: <a href="http://www.for10cents.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.for10cents.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1064356</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are always newer sites that you can look for that will provide a better chance to win.  If you look at a site like bidfire, you see the same few people winning all the auctions.  I guess you just have to get while the gettin&#039;s good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are always newer sites that you can look for that will provide a better chance to win.  If you look at a site like bidfire, you see the same few people winning all the auctions.  I guess you just have to get while the gettin&#8217;s good.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Mobius</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/24/swoopo-entertainment-shopping-or-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-1062925</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth Mobius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is much support and criticism of Swoopo,
as far as I am concerned 

IT IS IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS A SCAM.

QUITE SIMPLY, YOU BID (GAMBLE) $25 YOU AMAZINGLY ENOUGH WON THE iPHONE THEN THE VERIFICATION PROCESS POPS UP, HANG ON YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT!?! THEN 14 DAYS PASS, YOU COMMUNICATE, NOTHING, AGAIN NOTHING AGAIN NOTHING AGAIN NOTHING THEN INSULT TO INJURY YOUR &quot;ACCOUNT&quot; DISAPEARS AFTER NOT BIDDING FOR 3 MONTHS ALONG WITH $15 IN EQUVILENT BIDS, THE ITEM IS IN HISTORY IS NO LONGER AN iPHONE BUT A SAT-NAV GISMO, YOUR $25 WORTH FOR ALL INTENTS &amp; PURPOSES NEVER HAPPEND, BUT FOR THE FIRST 14 DAYS YOUR USER NAME IS USED TO PROMOTE SWOOPO OH BUT WITH A SNAZZY PHOTO OF SOME CUT N PASTE CALVIN KLINE MODEL.

AFTER HAVING TO CLAIM ON CARD INSURANCE AS WHERE MY MONEY WENT WAS APPARENTLY NOT SWOOPO.COM OR .CO.UK I VOWED NEVER AGAIN.

MY ADVICE &gt; STAY AWAY OR GO TO TRADE SITES, SAVE UP WHAT EVER BULK BUY 5 PLASMA TV&#039;S  TRADE THE REST EITHER ON EBAY OR LOCAL PAPER GET A BARGAIN THAT WAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is much support and criticism of Swoopo,<br />
as far as I am concerned </p>
<p>IT IS IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS A SCAM.</p>
<p>QUITE SIMPLY, YOU BID (GAMBLE) $25 YOU AMAZINGLY ENOUGH WON THE iPHONE THEN THE VERIFICATION PROCESS POPS UP, HANG ON YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT!?! THEN 14 DAYS PASS, YOU COMMUNICATE, NOTHING, AGAIN NOTHING AGAIN NOTHING AGAIN NOTHING THEN INSULT TO INJURY YOUR &#8220;ACCOUNT&#8221; DISAPEARS AFTER NOT BIDDING FOR 3 MONTHS ALONG WITH $15 IN EQUVILENT BIDS, THE ITEM IS IN HISTORY IS NO LONGER AN iPHONE BUT A SAT-NAV GISMO, YOUR $25 WORTH FOR ALL INTENTS &amp; PURPOSES NEVER HAPPEND, BUT FOR THE FIRST 14 DAYS YOUR USER NAME IS USED TO PROMOTE SWOOPO OH BUT WITH A SNAZZY PHOTO OF SOME CUT N PASTE CALVIN KLINE MODEL.</p>
<p>AFTER HAVING TO CLAIM ON CARD INSURANCE AS WHERE MY MONEY WENT WAS APPARENTLY NOT SWOOPO.COM OR .CO.UK I VOWED NEVER AGAIN.</p>
<p>MY ADVICE &gt; STAY AWAY OR GO TO TRADE SITES, SAVE UP WHAT EVER BULK BUY 5 PLASMA TV&#8217;S  TRADE THE REST EITHER ON EBAY OR LOCAL PAPER GET A BARGAIN THAT WAY.</p>
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