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Ah, the marketing plan is so clever that i am stumped.

I own a 5700 XpressMusic, and this new one is 5800 :D It comes with no mobile connection, so $227 is rather half the price of iPhone. And with opera mini, even web browsing will rock :)

Until someone comes out with a phone with an App store and a way to upgrade your phone via the web whenever there are updates (rather than buying a new model every time), the iPhone still wins. I don’t think these other phone-makers really don’t understand why the iPhone is so popular.

There is app store and you can upgrade it via web :)

Nokia already have 2 sites where you can download and share more than software… ovi and mosh… you can download mosh as a application and download programs for FREE!!!!

hmm, i don’t know. i love my iphone and this doesn’t look slick enuff for me to make a change, but i do need a date fone and this would be hot for that.

This is smaller than iPhone.

iPhone: 115 x 61 x 11.6mm 135g
5800: 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 109g

I think Nokia could take a cue from Apple and slim down their high end media phones. I like the functionality but don’t want to carry a brick in my pocket.

Nokia is still defending its domination on cell phone technologies

You mean the domination they lost 5-10 years ago?

Lost to whom? LOL :D They’ve 40% of market share.

got a cite for that stat?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/nokia-grabs-40-of-global-handset-market-nets-2-6-billion-in-q/

google more.

Burrrrrned.

Still, it’s what’s inside the iPhone that makes it so great. the ability to make your own software for it.

You cretin Symbian is an OS with SDK so “you can make your own software for it”

What world do you live in? Apple’s market share is a couple of percent - Nokia’s is 40. Apple is making a blip on Nokia’s business because it is a high-end phone that has higher margins, but it’s still not going to over-worry them.

Thus, it’s more like Apple combating Nokia than Nokia combating Apple. Get your facts right, people. Stop comparing these two devices. They’re aimed for the completely opposite market. Outside of the US, the iPhone hardly makes a blip.

Whatever amount iPhones had been sold, Nokia sells the amount more than 50X over. Apple aims to sell 5 million iPhones this year. Nokia has already sold 133 million phones in the 2007 fiscal year.

Nokia really -doesn’t- give a damn. It came out with a touch screen phone way before Apple did, the 7710, but apparently people haven’t heard of ‘GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT’.

this phone quite amazing, but i dont think it could kill iPhone

Yeah I think these can live together. However this is just a superior device when comparing to iPhone. Full platform with features and APIs available and now with touch! Woww.

you can’t polish a turd, and that my son is a turd.

Your son is a turd.

It’s interesting for people with a Verizon, or here in Canada Virgin/Telus/Sasktel plans, since it supports CDMA, something the iPhone will never get..
CDMA is pretty much the only technology that actually works here on the prairies..

It’s a freaking brick! That thing is huge!

Wtf.. just wrote that it is smaller than iPhone:

iPhone: 115 x 61 x 11.6mm 135g
5800: 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 109g

Some things that iphone does not have. Video out, removable battery, ability to develop apps on windows machine rather than buying mac, stereo bluetooth headset profile, external storage card.
iphone sucks in battery life.

That phone is so ugly, Steve Jobs wouldn’t sell anything that looks that bad!

Stop suckin Jobs’ dick, Mactard

I think Nokia knows its market. This is not an attempt to compete with the iphone but give teenagers an option. In an economic downturn in the US and EU which do you think parents will buy? They’ll buy the cheapest.

This isn’t an iphone killer because some people will always pay for style - and the iphone has much more style. It will appeal to people who care more about features and price. Another thing people in the US might not be aware of is that huge numbers of Europeans are familiar with the S60 platform. Even if it’s not as slick as the iphone, touch with haptic feedback and an operating system they already know, will be enough.

It seems a very nice Phone.

Why kill the iPhone? It has just 2 per cent market share and Nokia has 40. Let it live! :)

Just one question — does @jomm work for Nokia or what? That phone might be smaller than the iPhone length and height-wise, but it’s substantially thicker — so I guess that makes it a *small* brick.

Hmm. Funny thing about streaming video on a mobile. It sounds nice and it sure makes nice eye candy, but its one of those features rarely used once you get your cell phone. Ask around, you’ll see.

Hmm. Funny thing about streaming video on a mobile. It sounds nice and it sure makes nice eye candy, but its one of those features rarely used once you get your cell phone. Ask around, you’ll see.

Stylus pen? Stylus plectrum? Seems to play catchup with some very old Sony Ericsson UIQ phones.

Has the iPhone been killed yet?

As usual, the hits first, hits twice

it looks nice.
cute design but iPhone looks nicer =)
nokia designs always looks like a standart nokia.they must go to a change little bit in design.iPhone do the change.Apple’s work always nice designed machines.
Technically i will wait google’s android not for design but it will kill all phones i guess..

279€ is not 224usd, you illiterate american.

Seems like half of your geniuses did not notice its half the price of an iPhone (unsubsidized prices, you idiot who was about to say “but iPhone is only $199!”)). Second, stylus = hand-writing = Asian markets = another superior spec for that market compared to iPhone.

Nokia’s response to iPhone is only coming in February 2009. Sure, a bit late, but the point is that 5800 is targeted at a complete different segment of the market and, in addiotion, at providing a product certain regions/countries are likely to prefer (due to both price point and specs, such as the handwriting recognition that iPhone, AFAIK, is lacking). Not everything is about the US market (even I can admit that even though I live in the US - although I am not American).

just buy what u want to buy guys. just leave each other alone. ur just wasting time in arguing. every person is unique and has different preferences. peace!!!

this phone rocks! i really don’t like the design of the iphone… so flat… this is the fon that will make me change my n91 8GB…

I was about to get the N91 I thought it looked good. But I saw this… I’m gonna get this.

it’s simple as this.. iphone looks hotter, has a better browser and has multi touch.. touch sensitivity is superior..
nokia is CHEAPER, has a whole load of features like better cam, package includes lot more, huge app database from 3rd parties.. includes free music for a year.. did i say it’s cheaper?? what more could u want during in this time of inflation??
c in what way u will use the phone n then decide.. cheers ppl..

I beg to differ on looks. Appearances are subjective. What might l