Comments on: Five reasons why an Apple netbook is a no-brainer http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:30:13 -0500 hourly 1 By: Josh Schnare http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1119273 Josh Schnare Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:16:20 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1119273 How right you are, Apple doesn't see enough money in it. If only Apple would make a MacBook the size of the 12" G4 PB. Well I decided not to wait for Apple and bought a slightly used MSI netbook. I'll partition it and use mainly Unix, but have the supplied WinXP home just in case. I moved on this now because I notice Netbooks going downhill, becoming even more cheaply made. Like less pixels on an HP Netbook that sells new for about $250. How right you are, Apple doesn’t see enough money in it. If only Apple would make a MacBook the size of the 12″ G4 PB.
Well I decided not to wait for Apple and bought a slightly used MSI netbook. I’ll partition it and use mainly Unix, but have the supplied WinXP home just in case.
I moved on this now because I notice Netbooks going downhill, becoming even more cheaply made. Like less pixels on an HP Netbook that sells new for about $250.

]]> By: JXL76 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1118571 JXL76 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:14:39 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1118571 Thanks for a remarkably informative post. , Thanks for a remarkably informative post. ,

]]> By: Wilson G. Tang http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1117908 Wilson G. Tang Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:34:42 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1117908 The plain and simple reason that Apple does not make a netbook is because it doesn't make a whole lot of money from selling a netbook. Neither do any of the big PC manufacturers. For every one MacBook Pro Apple sells, it probably makes the same amount of money as Acer does selling ten netbooks. I think Apple is pretty content in letting the other PC manufacturers duke it out in the netbook space, as their margins continue to shrink. Apple just let's the coffers fill, and I guarantee you won't release a netbook unless it's profits start to shrink. Then it may try to compete on volume, but I doubt that will happen any time soon. The plain and simple reason that Apple does not make a netbook is because it doesn’t make a whole lot of money from selling a netbook. Neither do any of the big PC manufacturers. For every one MacBook Pro Apple sells, it probably makes the same amount of money as Acer does selling ten netbooks. I think Apple is pretty content in letting the other PC manufacturers duke it out in the netbook space, as their margins continue to shrink. Apple just let’s the coffers fill, and I guarantee you won’t release a netbook unless it’s profits start to shrink. Then it may try to compete on volume, but I doubt that will happen any time soon.

]]> By: Josh Schnare http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1117410 Josh Schnare Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:24:42 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1117410 As much as I like Apple products, the Air unfortunately doesn't make a good travel computer for me. No Ethernet port, no SD reader and not even Apple's firewire. Many hotels that I go to use wired Internet. So with the Air it's necessary to carry adapters. As for the Win Netbooks, the MSI stands out as a great netbook product. It even has the matte screen I desire. Linux or if one wants a bit of work hacking OS X onto it solves the security problem. For now I lug my 14" Pismo PB which does everything, including playing DVDs, or on longer trips my Palm T-C. These both have WiFi, but the Palm doesn't have wired ethernet, it's browsing function is limited by it's age and the screen is a bit small for viewing pictures. So for my and many of my friends use for travel, a 10" Netbook fits the bill quite well. For light browsing, Office functions, backing up and viewing pictures, plus the odd game. As much as I like Apple products, the Air unfortunately doesn’t make a good travel computer for me. No Ethernet port, no SD reader and not even Apple’s firewire. Many hotels that I go to use wired Internet. So with the Air it’s necessary to carry adapters.

As for the Win Netbooks, the MSI stands out as a great netbook product. It even has the matte screen I desire. Linux or if one wants a bit of work hacking OS X onto it solves the security problem.
For now I lug my 14″ Pismo PB which does everything, including playing DVDs, or on longer trips my Palm T-C. These both have WiFi, but the Palm doesn’t have wired ethernet, it’s browsing function is limited by it’s age and the screen is a bit small for viewing pictures.

So for my and many of my friends use for travel, a 10″ Netbook fits the bill quite well. For light browsing, Office functions, backing up and viewing pictures, plus the odd game.

]]> By: Hamranhansenhansen http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1117377 Hamranhansenhansen Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:09:26 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1117377 > People complain relentlessly about the > trackpads, mouse buttons, and keyboards > on today’s currently available netbooks. The reason MacBook Air has a 13-inch screen is because that's what matches a full-size keyboard and full-size multitouch trackpad. It can't be built smaller. The 10-inch Mac you're asking for would be subject to the same complaints that you can't touch type on it. Also, unless you're suggesting people use netbooks 100% of the time instead of regular size PC's, you're talking about people owning both a full-size PC desktop or notebook, plus a netbook. By the time you buy your notebook, netbook, Windows upgrades for both, anti-virus and anti-malware for both, you are paying the same as MacBook Air. The MacBook Air has a full-size PC processor and NVIDIA graphics, so it's both a notebook and a netbook in one device. I carry mine everywhere along with an iPhone and it's never too big to take with me, and never too underpowered to do what I need to do. And I can touch type 80 wpm on MacBook Air and thumb type 40 wpm on iPhone and no complaints about either keyboard. I think netbooks are just a sham. People think they are getting a whole notebook computer for $299 and when they get it they think it is cute and once they've used it a bit they hate the damn thing. You are better to put that $299 into your main PC purchase and avoid the sub-$1000 flotsam and get a real PC that can last you 3 years and do any task, like a MacBook Air. TCO on a MacBook Air plus iPhone 3GS is about $50 a month and you're never without a computer in your hand, no matter what the situation. That is the world's best smartphone and the world's best sub-notebook for less than $2 per day. And there is almost zero I-T work because of Software Update, Time Machine, Unix security, Apple Genius. I have friends who are spending more than my total I-T budget just on the guy who comes by every month or two to clean out their PC malware. So I think "cheap netbooks" is another sucker game for techno rubes. > People complain relentlessly about the
> trackpads, mouse buttons, and keyboards
> on today’s currently available netbooks.

The reason MacBook Air has a 13-inch screen is because that’s what matches a full-size keyboard and full-size multitouch trackpad. It can’t be built smaller. The 10-inch Mac you’re asking for would be subject to the same complaints that you can’t touch type on it.

Also, unless you’re suggesting people use netbooks 100% of the time instead of regular size PC’s, you’re talking about people owning both a full-size PC desktop or notebook, plus a netbook. By the time you buy your notebook, netbook, Windows upgrades for both, anti-virus and anti-malware for both, you are paying the same as MacBook Air.

The MacBook Air has a full-size PC processor and NVIDIA graphics, so it’s both a notebook and a netbook in one device. I carry mine everywhere along with an iPhone and it’s never too big to take with me, and never too underpowered to do what I need to do. And I can touch type 80 wpm on MacBook Air and thumb type 40 wpm on iPhone and no complaints about either keyboard.

I think netbooks are just a sham. People think they are getting a whole notebook computer for $299 and when they get it they think it is cute and once they’ve used it a bit they hate the damn thing. You are better to put that $299 into your main PC purchase and avoid the sub-$1000 flotsam and get a real PC that can last you 3 years and do any task, like a MacBook Air.

TCO on a MacBook Air plus iPhone 3GS is about $50 a month and you’re never without a computer in your hand, no matter what the situation. That is the world’s best smartphone and the world’s best sub-notebook for less than $2 per day. And there is almost zero I-T work because of Software Update, Time Machine, Unix security, Apple Genius. I have friends who are spending more than my total I-T budget just on the guy who comes by every month or two to clean out their PC malware. So I think “cheap netbooks” is another sucker game for techno rubes.

]]> By: ★ Apple Netbook Claim Chowder « http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1117173 ★ Apple Netbook Claim Chowder « Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:44:08 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1117173 [...] 14 October 2008, Doug Aamoth at CrunchGear: “Five Reasons Why an Apple Netbook Is a No-Brainer”: [...] [...] 14 October 2008, Doug Aamoth at CrunchGear: “Five Reasons Why an Apple Netbook Is a No-Brainer”: [...]

]]> By: Ash http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1105705 Ash Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:08:12 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1105705 There is no way I would want an iPhone-like netbook. I want a mini Apple laptop, otherwise, what's the point. Based on the touch screen nature of the iPhone alone, I decided instead to go with a Blackberry and I LOVE Apple Macs... If that's what Steve Jobs has in mind, I'm buying a PC netbook. The Sony P series is pretty dinky. See here: http://www.electronicpulp.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sony-p-series-netbook-leaked.jpg There is no way I would want an iPhone-like netbook. I want a mini Apple laptop, otherwise, what’s the point. Based on the touch screen nature of the iPhone alone, I decided instead to go with a Blackberry and I LOVE Apple Macs… If that’s what Steve Jobs has in mind, I’m buying a PC netbook. The Sony P series is pretty dinky. See here: http://www.electronicpulp.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sony-p-series-netbook-leaked.jpg

]]> By: Josh Schnare http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1065659 Josh Schnare Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:38:16 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1065659 You must be he devils rag doll! Your posting should be wiped, it contaminates this site. You must be he devils rag doll!
Your posting should be wiped, it contaminates this site.

]]> By: Hellena http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1065647 Hellena Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:04:12 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1065647 fuck all of you you guys r haters you're all just mad cuz apple stay ahead of everybody else shut the fuck up cuz Apple made the first iPhone iPod touch computer and notebook so show respect Yall need to Stop being so fucking cheap cuz when you fucking PC crash half of yall fags run for a mac fuck all of you
you guys r haters
you’re all just mad cuz apple stay ahead of everybody else shut the fuck up cuz Apple made the first iPhone iPod touch computer and notebook so show respect
Yall need to Stop being so fucking cheap
cuz when you fucking PC crash half of yall fags run for a mac

]]> By: Scott Rohrbach http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1019768 Scott Rohrbach Thu, 14 May 2009 20:23:18 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1019768 The whole widescreen thing is due to the fact that a 13" widescreen actually has less real estate and costs less to produce than a 13" 4:3 ratio screen, but can still be advertised as 13". (See the digital picture frame market, for example. All of the lower cost models are widescreen.) I'm still using my 12" G4 PowerBook every day as well, upgraded to 1 GB RAM and a 32 GB SSD. But, a slightly smaller and lighter version would be most welcome - i.e., a MacBook Air mini (except not that name) - 10" 4:3 or 12" widescreen, 32/64 GB SSD, Atom N270, etc... The N270 has been demonstrated to be powerful enough to run OS X via many Hackintoshers, at 1/7th the power draw of the Air's C2D 35 Watt processor. As noted already, Apple might actually be able to sell this for $600. The whole widescreen thing is due to the fact that a 13″ widescreen actually has less real estate and costs less to produce than a 13″ 4:3 ratio screen, but can still be advertised as 13″. (See the digital picture frame market, for example. All of the lower cost models are widescreen.)

I’m still using my 12″ G4 PowerBook every day as well, upgraded to 1 GB RAM and a 32 GB SSD. But, a slightly smaller and lighter version would be most welcome – i.e., a MacBook Air mini (except not that name) – 10″ 4:3 or 12″ widescreen, 32/64 GB SSD, Atom N270, etc… The N270 has been demonstrated to be powerful enough to run OS X via many Hackintoshers, at 1/7th the power draw of the Air’s C2D 35 Watt processor. As noted already, Apple might actually be able to sell this for $600.

]]> By: MacBookwatch http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1009361 MacBookwatch Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:48:54 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1009361 <strong>Apple Netbook rumored to be Manufactured by Foxconn...</strong> Rumors are spreading like wildfire through the Apple community and the newest is about Foxconn Electronics being chosen to manufacture the Cupertino based computer makers new touchscreen netbook. The Chinese-language site Commercial Times reports that ... Apple Netbook rumored to be Manufactured by Foxconn…

Rumors are spreading like wildfire through the Apple community and the newest is about Foxconn Electronics being chosen to manufacture the Cupertino based computer makers new touchscreen netbook.
The Chinese-language site Commercial Times reports that …

]]> By: Josh Schnare http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1008168 Josh Schnare Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:47:18 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1008168 >>>woody - January 4th, 2009 at 7:06 am PST I’d love to buy a 10 inch Mac Netbook for $600 >> Woody, please order one for me too. THX PS: If it doesn't come by early 2010, cancel my order and I'll get an MSI Wind. >>>woody – January 4th, 2009 at 7:06 am PST
I’d love to buy a 10 inch Mac Netbook for $600
>>
Woody, please order one for me too.
THX
PS: If it doesn’t come by early 2010, cancel my order and I’ll get an MSI Wind.

]]> By: Alpay Kaya http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-1007664 Alpay Kaya Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:06:09 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-1007664 Everyone should stop using the false paradigm of 'netbooks'. People just want reasonably-sized (9x11x1 in.) notebooks! For some odd reason, companies decided that notebooks 'needed' to have a 16:9 wide screens (like television???). This had the effect of forcing larger (13-17") screens to have enough screen height. Everyone should stop using the false paradigm of ‘netbooks’. People just want reasonably-sized (9×11x1 in.) notebooks! For some odd reason, companies decided that notebooks ‘needed’ to have a 16:9 wide screens (like television???). This had the effect of forcing larger (13-17″) screens to have enough screen height.

]]> By: CrunX http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-991837 CrunX Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:10:27 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-991837 The Apple iTablet or MacTouch must have the full Mac OS X inside (not just the limited OS X). That is absolutely essential to run the full blown Office and iWork there. Not to work on it, but to use it for full blown Keynote and PowerPoint presentations via VGA-out port, Firewire port for repairs via Target Disk Mode, Ethernet port and at least two USB2 ports. Because even the MacBook Air is too heavy and large. It must be 400 g or less (the lighter and smaller, the better), like the OQO model 2+ www.oqo.com but like this with a touch screen: Next Apple moves will be Books and Games… http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/next-apple-moves-will-be-books-and-games It will set new standards on all the corporate, academic and domestic markets. A new Halo effect will bring now millions to the Mac. Think about it also as the ultimate and portable development tool. The Apple iTablet or MacTouch must have the full Mac OS X inside (not just the limited OS X). That is absolutely essential to run the full blown Office and iWork there. Not to work on it, but to use it for full blown Keynote and PowerPoint presentations via VGA-out port, Firewire port for repairs via Target Disk Mode, Ethernet port and at least two USB2 ports.

Because even the MacBook Air is too heavy and large. It must be 400 g or less (the lighter and smaller, the better), like the OQO model 2+

http://www.oqo.com

but like this with a touch screen:

Next Apple moves will be Books and Games…
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/next-apple-moves-will-be-books-and-games

It will set new standards on all the corporate, academic and domestic markets. A new Halo effect will bring now millions to the Mac. Think about it also as the ultimate and portable development tool.

]]> By: Aaron Bone http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-991772 Aaron Bone Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:08:14 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-991772 I agree with everyone here... if apple makes a netbook with a 12" screen in tablet form (basically a larger iPhone) it would be phenomenal. Although I think largely people would probably complain about the keyboard. I agree with everyone here… if apple makes a netbook with a 12″ screen in tablet form (basically a larger iPhone) it would be phenomenal. Although I think largely people would probably complain about the keyboard.

]]> By: Thorn2200 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-991518 Thorn2200 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:49:48 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-991518 It wouldn't be a netbook if it had a DVD player, and it would be a challenge to fit a DVD drive in a 10" notebook anyway. It wouldn’t be a netbook if it had a DVD player, and it would be a challenge to fit a DVD drive in a 10″ notebook anyway.

]]> By: Apple Netbook | DisplayBlog http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-989888 Apple Netbook | DisplayBlog Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:41:34 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-989888 [...] DigiTimes, PC World, Engadget, CrunchGear, Motley Fool, Ars [...] [...] DigiTimes, PC World, Engadget, CrunchGear, Motley Fool, Ars [...]

]]> By: Tz7 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-989586 Tz7 Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:37:50 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-989586 If Apple makes a unibody MacBook Pro with 12 inch screen, just like my favorite PowerBook G4, it will be my ultimate netbook. If Apple makes a unibody MacBook Pro with 12 inch screen, just like my favorite PowerBook G4, it will be my ultimate netbook.

]]> By: The Touch Book From Always Innovating » Gadgets » Russell Heimlich http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-987861 The Touch Book From Always Innovating » Gadgets » Russell Heimlich Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:51:36 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-987861 [...] gorgeous looking Jolicloud OS from Netvibes founder Tariq Krim then I’m sold. Who needs an Apple netbook [...] [...] gorgeous looking Jolicloud OS from Netvibes founder Tariq Krim then I’m sold. Who needs an Apple netbook [...]

]]> By: Sakari Kestinen http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/comment-page-1/#comment-983458 Sakari Kestinen Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:43:45 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/14/five-reasons-why-an-apple-netbook-is-a-no-brainer/#comment-983458 That sounds like a Nokia Communicator but with OS X, Apple design and usability (multi-touch, high-quality keyboard etc). That sounds like a Nokia Communicator but with OS X, Apple design and usability (multi-touch, high-quality keyboard etc).

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