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	<title>Comments on: Visit Beautiful, Censorious China! Virtually!</title>
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		<title>By: Tasawar Abbas</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-971135</link>
		<dc:creator>Tasawar Abbas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from Pakistan and love the people of China becasue they are very quite. if any chanies girls read my this sms then he contact me on my email address or my cell.
tasawar005@hotmail.com
00920333-7638116</description>
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<a href="mailto:tasawar005@hotmail.com">tasawar005@hotmail.com</a><br />
00920333-7638116</p>
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		<title>By: My &#8220;food for thought&#8221; these days about China &#171; My agnostic views &#38; images I like</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-966901</link>
		<dc:creator>My &#8220;food for thought&#8221; these days about China &#171; My agnostic views &#38; images I like</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Visit Beautiful, Censorious China! Virtually! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: China&#8217;s Internet censorship getting more and more sophisticated</title>
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		<dc:creator>China&#8217;s Internet censorship getting more and more sophisticated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its citizens from freely expressing their opinions online. We&#8217;re on the good side of the Great Wall, so none of this affects us here per se, but it&#8217;s always fun to explore China&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] its citizens from freely expressing their opinions online. We&#8217;re on the good side of the Great Wall, so none of this affects us here per se, but it&#8217;s always fun to explore China&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Experience The Great Firewall of China in the convenience of your own homes : Hopia Encounters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Experience The Great Firewall of China in the convenience of your own homes : Hopia Encounters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your chance to experience what I Hell I have been experiencing. This China Channel Firefox Add-on: This delightful product recreates the surfing experience of someone at a standard Internet-connected... Try it and get back to me and we&#8217;ll be whining [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] your chance to experience what I Hell I have been experiencing. This China Channel Firefox Add-on: This delightful product recreates the surfing experience of someone at a standard Internet-connected&#8230; Try it and get back to me and we&#8217;ll be whining [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox Plug-In Lets You Try Chinese Censorship &#124; Gadget News</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-945095</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefox Plug-In Lets You Try Chinese Censorship &#124; Gadget News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 3, 2008 &#183; Print This Article  A new Firefox plug-in called the China Channel Firefox Add-on lets you experience THE GREAT FIREWALL OF CHINA. It&#8217;s not a simulation. The plug-in re-routes your packets through a Chinese IP address, so you&#8217;re actually being censored by the Chinese government. Here comes the VIDEO. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Australia looking to become Internet censor (just like China)</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-944278</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Australia looking to become Internet censor (just like China)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] looks set to join China as a state-mandated Internet censor. The measure is primarily aimed at combating online child [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Archive &#187; Australia looking to become Internet censor (just like China)</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-944186</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Archive &#187; Australia looking to become Internet censor (just like China)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] looks set to join China as a state-mandated Internet censor. The measure is primarily aimed at combating online child [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943847</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can matter, depending on the topic.  You can, for example, pull up English versions of really controversial sites from Taiwan - but not the Chinese versions.  And as others have noted, what is blocked changes - for all of September YouTube was unblocked; now it&#039;s blocked again.  Wikipedia is unblocked as is Blogspot, but Wordpress is blocked.  Who knows what November will bring.

Anyone who wants to see blocked sites knows how to use very simple tools to get around the blocks, but if you just go online open up your browser and try to look for things, it can get very frustrating.  But I agree with the others who say the quality of the connection is actually often more annoying than the firewall.

(And yes, I live in China, am typing from China, and read/write Chinese)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can matter, depending on the topic.  You can, for example, pull up English versions of really controversial sites from Taiwan &#8211; but not the Chinese versions.  And as others have noted, what is blocked changes &#8211; for all of September YouTube was unblocked; now it&#8217;s blocked again.  Wikipedia is unblocked as is Blogspot, but Wordpress is blocked.  Who knows what November will bring.</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to see blocked sites knows how to use very simple tools to get around the blocks, but if you just go online open up your browser and try to look for things, it can get very frustrating.  But I agree with the others who say the quality of the connection is actually often more annoying than the firewall.</p>
<p>(And yes, I live in China, am typing from China, and read/write Chinese)</p>
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		<title>By: Cat Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943838</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t even click thru this link in China:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/LrPNGNSRK90/

Just because FeedBurner is blocked in China...

P.S.Check out Windows Live Space Simplified Chinese version if you love this experience. You can&#039;t even submit article with Chinese phrase like freedom, but free*dom is acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t even click thru this link in China:<br />
<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/LrPNGNSRK90/" rel="nofollow">http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/LrPNGNSRK90/</a></p>
<p>Just because FeedBurner is blocked in China&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S.Check out Windows Live Space Simplified Chinese version if you love this experience. You can&#8217;t even submit article with Chinese phrase like freedom, but free*dom is acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943175</link>
		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re insinuating I have my opinion because I&#039;m Chinese you&#039;re wrong and you&#039;re being a total moron. I just don&#039;t trade humanism for patriotism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re insinuating I have my opinion because I&#8217;m Chinese you&#8217;re wrong and you&#8217;re being a total moron. I just don&#8217;t trade humanism for patriotism.</p>
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		<title>By: joep</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943103</link>
		<dc:creator>joep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in China I do not see this issue at all. No problems searching most items, i guess this application would be more suited to Bhurma or perhaps North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in China I do not see this issue at all. No problems searching most items, i guess this application would be more suited to Bhurma or perhaps North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark12345</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943100</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark12345</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in China from 2002 to 2007, mostly in Shanghai. The comments saying that the blocking is not real are either lying or don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about. The amount of blocking would vary over time -- for example, just before the handover of power to Hu Jintao nearly all Western sites were blocked -- but Wikipedia; the BBC; all blogs hosted on services with &#039;blog&#039; in the name, like blogspot; and all newspapers from Taiwan were blocked. And that was the English versions of them. In addition, the Internet speed is super slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in China from 2002 to 2007, mostly in Shanghai. The comments saying that the blocking is not real are either lying or don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about. The amount of blocking would vary over time &#8212; for example, just before the handover of power to Hu Jintao nearly all Western sites were blocked &#8212; but Wikipedia; the BBC; all blogs hosted on services with &#8216;blog&#8217; in the name, like blogspot; and all newspapers from Taiwan were blocked. And that was the English versions of them. In addition, the Internet speed is super slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Roundup For 10/28/2008 &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943047</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundup For 10/28/2008 &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The China Channel has a Firefox plugin that allows you to browse the internet as if you were behind the Great Firewall Of China. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: beijing rob</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-943016</link>
		<dc:creator>beijing rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that most Chinese people do not deal very well with individual choice anyway. Political issues and legislated morality are things they usually see as making their lives more simple and easy. 

More and more, though, as younger kids grow up - many people are wanting to at least make the choice for themselves rather than have the parental figure government dictate it to them. Many things would stay the same way if people had their choices, but at least they would get to decide for themselves. That would at least nurture the critical thinking instinct in China - which is SEVERELY LACKING and leads to things like copyright piracy and melanine being added to milk (et al).

@bob - mocking oppressive systems, having a laugh at ridiculous policies, and giving a crap about people in other countries are not necessarily mutually exclusive. The heavy-handed control of the internet in China is absurd as well as expenive. Trust me - the billions they spend on that would be much better spent fighting police corruption and rampant prostitution. These things are pervasive in the society and yet due to the nature of the system nothing is done about them. Instead, the gov would like to make sure that people don&#039;t have unfettered access to information.

People have the right to decide what they want to study and what they want to believe. Anywhere. There&#039;s not a single good argument for denying people this right.

Truth is that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Chinese people have absolutely no idea the extent of censorship here. It&#039;s a testiment to how well the government has controlled the flow of information over the years.

Yes - things actually are getting better (slowly), but in terms of twisting/filtering information they are actually getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that most Chinese people do not deal very well with individual choice anyway. Political issues and legislated morality are things they usually see as making their lives more simple and easy. </p>
<p>More and more, though, as younger kids grow up &#8211; many people are wanting to at least make the choice for themselves rather than have the parental figure government dictate it to them. Many things would stay the same way if people had their choices, but at least they would get to decide for themselves. That would at least nurture the critical thinking instinct in China &#8211; which is SEVERELY LACKING and leads to things like copyright piracy and melanine being added to milk (et al).</p>
<p>@bob &#8211; mocking oppressive systems, having a laugh at ridiculous policies, and giving a crap about people in other countries are not necessarily mutually exclusive. The heavy-handed control of the internet in China is absurd as well as expenive. Trust me &#8211; the billions they spend on that would be much better spent fighting police corruption and rampant prostitution. These things are pervasive in the society and yet due to the nature of the system nothing is done about them. Instead, the gov would like to make sure that people don&#8217;t have unfettered access to information.</p>
<p>People have the right to decide what they want to study and what they want to believe. Anywhere. There&#8217;s not a single good argument for denying people this right.</p>
<p>Truth is that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Chinese people have absolutely no idea the extent of censorship here. It&#8217;s a testiment to how well the government has controlled the flow of information over the years.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; things actually are getting better (slowly), but in terms of twisting/filtering information they are actually getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-942999</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really about caring for Chinese citizens or mocking the Chinese and the system within China?  I think the later.  To be sure, there is web censorship in China, but if you talk to the average Chinese bloke, he doesn&#039;t give a damn about the government censoring &quot;Free Tibet&quot; searches because more likely than not, he supports the government in keeping Tibet part of Chinese territory.  Recent Pew Research polling says 80% of Chinese citizens likes the way CCP is handling things (highest approval rate for any government), this despite all the censorship...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really about caring for Chinese citizens or mocking the Chinese and the system within China?  I think the later.  To be sure, there is web censorship in China, but if you talk to the average Chinese bloke, he doesn&#8217;t give a damn about the government censoring &#8220;Free Tibet&#8221; searches because more likely than not, he supports the government in keeping Tibet part of Chinese territory.  Recent Pew Research polling says 80% of Chinese citizens likes the way CCP is handling things (highest approval rate for any government), this despite all the censorship&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chinese Man</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-942987</link>
		<dc:creator>Chinese Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only because you&#039;re googling in English.
The Chinese govt don&#039;t give a damn if you&#039;re a foreigner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only because you&#8217;re googling in English.<br />
The Chinese govt don&#8217;t give a damn if you&#8217;re a foreigner.</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox Plug-In Lets You Try Chinese Censorship &#124; Cellphone &#38; Cell Mobile Phone Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-942985</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefox Plug-In Lets You Try Chinese Censorship &#124; Cellphone &#38; Cell Mobile Phone Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] October 28, 2008 &#183; Print This Article  A new Firefox plug-in called the China Channel Firefox Add-on lets you experience THE GREAT FIREWALL OF CHINA. It&#8217;s not a simulation. The plug-in actually re-routes your packets through a Chinese IP address, so you&#8217;re actually being censored by the Chinese government. Here comes the VIDEO. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] October 28, 2008 &middot; Print This Article  A new Firefox plug-in called the China Channel Firefox Add-on lets you experience THE GREAT FIREWALL OF CHINA. It&#8217;s not a simulation. The plug-in actually re-routes your packets through a Chinese IP address, so you&#8217;re actually being censored by the Chinese government. Here comes the VIDEO. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Halloween &#124; Titakosivilma.com &#187; Wanna know how it feels to be censored&#8230;?</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-942982</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Halloween &#124; Titakosivilma.com &#187; Wanna know how it feels to be censored&#8230;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Biggs</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-942981</link>
		<dc:creator>John Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got us there, AK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got us there, AK</p>
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		<title>By: Web2.0 Chick</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/27/visit-beautiful-censorious-china-virtually/comment-page-1/#comment-942980</link>
		<dc:creator>Web2.0 Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting:)</p>
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