
The 5DmkII is, it should be said first, an excellent camera, and it takes amazing still photos. Many people seem to think, though, that along with their professional still camera they are getting a professional video camera. While the video it takes is leagues ahead of cheapo handheld HD cams like the MinoHD and Zi6, the video is fundamentally lower-quality than true, dedicated digital cinema cameras. This wouldn’t need to be said if people weren’t saying otherwise, and it’s no slur against Canon either, but if misconceptions like this are allowed to continue, that’s a problem.
Above you see a crop of a zone plate, a set of concentric circles often seen in photographic testing (like here but imagine circles) to determine sharpness, chromatic aberration, and that sort of thing. The image above is a still from some 1080p 5DmkII video taken by Jim Jannard, creator of the RED camera which the 5D is mistakenly compared to (partially RED’s fault). Here’s a resized version of the full image:
As you can see, there is some really egregious Moiré effect going on. Good example of how the circles should look here. Note that Moiré is seen in almost any capture of a zone plate or focus test, but this is particularly bad. What causes this? An assessment by Pango at the Reduser.net forum based on the sensor size and resolution suggests that the 5DmkII keeps every third line in the 16:9 AR area and resizes it horizontally to 1920 pixels, creating a 1920×1080 image. No one knows for sure, but something like that is almost certainly going on. The following image is very much an exaggeration, since normally you’d have much more information to interpolate, but it gets the idea across:

This method of throwing away lines, resizing and recombining them is of course much more noticeable when you can check out the individual frames and when the pixels are made super-visible, as above. However, when the technique is used to resize video, it results in a predictable pattern of aliasing, or jaggy lines and unnatural motion, along the edges of things that are diagonal, most so when they are close to horizontal. Near-vertical lines, faces and some details are interpreted all right, but edges signs, horizon lines, building edges, all these things, depending on their orientation, may have a shimmer or stepped quality to them. The Moiré pattern seen in the concentric circles above is an indicator of this problem, and shows at what angles and with which colors is it most likely to happen.
It’s true that once resampled down to plain ol’ HD or lower than that, it’s nearly imposible to notice, and perhaps it’s not so easy to see in the first place if you’re not looking for it. But for real cinema, it’s an insuperable barrier for DSLR video right now because they can’t output video from their whole frame — thus the need to use every third line, or whatever technique is in use. I don’t have a Moiré detection plate for a Nikon D90 or I’d have mentioned it more prominently; it may be that it’s better, or worse, although the sensor of the D90 appears to read slower, resulting in more skew and jelly-motion.
I’m not sure how many people were really making a big deal about the new set of DSLRs being professional video cameras, but the few movies we’ve seen come out sure aren’t doing anything to dispel that notion (other than the first one being really bad). If you were to see 5D or D90 video at full size projected in a theater, the disparities would be obvious.
I just thought I’d throw this out there so people know what’s going on that makes a professional digital cinema camera different from a professional still camera that shoots video. Doubtless the problems go both ways as well: the RED may show up the 5DmkII in video, as well it should costing over ten times as much, but it can’t touch it for still image quality and capability. Let’s just stop comparing the two altogether. DSLRs will get better and their video is great for basic stuff, but there’s just no comparison.












Hi, nice review over the image. Sad that this was a screen grab in JPEG format and not at least 4-5 sec of video footage. This can be apart from what everyone believes and analyzed a RAW processing error. While being at the market for so long everyone knows that advanced technology doesn’t comes without glitches. The same famous RED team is mostly famous of their firmware upgrade (in the normal world called beta testing) and the fixing/adding new features to the camera. Still they forget that this also is a new product and is NOT as they claim (or would like to put it) a final and unmodifieable product. Canon MKII is yet to have firmware updates, is yet to see what future will bring to it. Is a 2600$ camera and is available now. And so far almost 90% of the footage from Canon 5D MKII seems “incredible” 8% are “video” and only at 2% I can say that some real artifacts have been spoted. The same goes for the not so long state of the art HDV – where the limitings of the codecs gave artifacts at certain scenes. I just can’t wait to get it at my photo dealer and give it a ride – If what I shoot would look good (as I’m definetly sure will be) I’ll simply get one. Best Regards, and happy shooting!
Thanks for the thoughtful comment… I totally agree that the MkII will probably improve, and DSLR video will improve as well, but they’re just in different leagues. I’d LOVE to have a 5D MkII and I’d shoot video with it happily – but if I was a professional cinematographer I’d avoid it like the plague.
if the 5dmk2 is so bad, then the RED people should not be so worried about. The problem is that the 5dmk2 is far better than the scarlet, also the RED cameras are really bad in low light.
The 5D mark II is undoubtedly not great at test charts – the RED 1 is fat better.
But do you really want to shoot test charts !
Use the 5D for what it is best at – stunning low light performance, interchangeable 35mm lenses and has a gorgeous DOF with it’s full frame sensor.
When you want to shoot test charts use the RED 1.
It’s hilarious that RED feel so threatened by the sudden arrival of the movie shooting DSLRs that they need to put this kind of material.
While not deceptive (it makes a valid point) – it ignores the larger story.
I find it humorous that you say some people mistakenly compare the RED to the 5D Mark II and then wind up doing that near the end of the article.
I can confirm the nature of the moire issue from my own testing, which was completely different from this. One thing I did was to tilt a camera with respect to a pattern producing maximum moire to see if there would be a break anywhere in the moire pattern, indicating a departure from the every third line idea. There was not. The moire pattern was consistent across the frame.
That said, if videographers are cognizant of their subjects, they can shoot with the 5D II material that does not produce this moire. Note that only horizontal lines (and near horizontal) are so affected.