Comments on: Another reason we can’t wait for Snow Leopard http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:13:20 -0500 hourly 1 By: CrunchGear » Archive » How soon can we expect a 3D Finder in Mac OS X? http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-958090 CrunchGear » Archive » How soon can we expect a 3D Finder in Mac OS X? Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:01:04 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-958090 [...] not with the next version of OS X, 10.6, (that’s “O Ess Ten” not “O Ess Ecks”), or Snow Leopard, which is rumored to be released on next June. (Rumored in so far as Apple said in June that it was [...] [...] not with the next version of OS X, 10.6, (that’s “O Ess Ten” not “O Ess Ecks”), or Snow Leopard, which is rumored to be released on next June. (Rumored in so far as Apple said in June that it was [...]

]]> By: Adi Chandra http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956804 Adi Chandra Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:37:06 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956804 i just check getfirefox.com and the download size is less than 20megs. maybe the website checks whether we are using PPC or intel. i just check getfirefox.com and the download size is less than 20megs. maybe the website checks whether we are using PPC or intel.

]]> By: Goobi http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956782 Goobi Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:32:02 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956782 What kind of bad reporting is this? If the glitch on the Mozilla web page has been updated, it is only right that you fix the screenshot. Aren't you happy with a 100% increase in file size? Besides, what's a few more megabytes here and there? Need that extra bandwidth to download HD pr0n I suppose. And what's to say that after Snow Leopard this will stop? Apple is slimming down their own apps, not Mozilla's. Since Mozilla obviously will want Firefox to run on older PPC Macs, they will keep including all that code till way into the future. So keep your rant to your personal blog and bring in the professionalism. (Prepared to bear the brunt of this rant) What kind of bad reporting is this? If the glitch on the Mozilla web page has been updated, it is only right that you fix the screenshot. Aren’t you happy with a 100% increase in file size? Besides, what’s a few more megabytes here and there? Need that extra bandwidth to download HD pr0n I suppose.

And what’s to say that after Snow Leopard this will stop? Apple is slimming down their own apps, not Mozilla’s. Since Mozilla obviously will want Firefox to run on older PPC Macs, they will keep including all that code till way into the future. So keep your rant to your personal blog and bring in the professionalism.

(Prepared to bear the brunt of this rant)

]]> By: James Katt http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956709 James Katt Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:23:08 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956709 Aha! Mac OS X Apps are larger because: 1. They are two applications in one when Universal - i.e. one app for PowerPC, one app for Intel. 2. They have lots of localization files since they can run in multiple languages and countries. Leopard will allow 64-bit apps, thus Apps will be also larger since they will contain 3 applications in one - a 32-bit PowerPC, a 32-bit Intel, and a 64-bit Intel. In Windows, you have to use totally separate applications - one for 32-bit, one for 64-bit. One application can't run both in 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows. The price you pay for having extreme flexibility in underlying hardware and language support is in having larger files. However, I love it. This means, I can have a single drive containing my Mac OS X and Applications and have them run in PowerPC, 32-bit Intel, and 64-bit Intel and in several languages. This makes Mac OS X highly portable. In fact, it is so portable, it comes in its own version for the iPhone and iPod Touch: OS X. You certainly can't say that about Windows. Aha!

Mac OS X Apps are larger because:
1. They are two applications in one when Universal – i.e. one app for PowerPC, one app for Intel.
2. They have lots of localization files since they can run in multiple languages and countries.

Leopard will allow 64-bit apps, thus Apps will be also larger since they will contain 3 applications in one – a 32-bit PowerPC, a 32-bit Intel, and a 64-bit Intel.

In Windows, you have to use totally separate applications – one for 32-bit, one for 64-bit. One application can’t run both in 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows.

The price you pay for having extreme flexibility in underlying hardware and language support is in having larger files.

However, I love it.

This means, I can have a single drive containing my Mac OS X and Applications and have them run in PowerPC, 32-bit Intel, and 64-bit Intel and in several languages. This makes Mac OS X highly portable.

In fact, it is so portable, it comes in its own version for the iPhone and iPod Touch: OS X.

You certainly can’t say that about Windows.

]]> By: Ben http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956705 Ben Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:10:17 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956705 Toss unnecessary localization files for smaller app sizes. I use Macaroni to do this automatically on a monthly basis. iTunes was 130 MB with them; now under 50 without. Toss unnecessary localization files for smaller app sizes. I use Macaroni to do this automatically on a monthly basis. iTunes was 130 MB with them; now under 50 without.

]]> By: [ T ] 空 之 城 - Snow Leopard不被期待的另一个原因 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956663 [ T ] 空 之 城 - Snow Leopard不被期待的另一个原因 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:29:16 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956663 [...] 引用来源 | 此文章网址 | 转寄此文章 | 回应 Comments are closed. [...] [...] 引用来源 | 此文章网址 | 转寄此文章 | 回应 Comments are closed. [...]

]]> By: Adi Chandra http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956644 Adi Chandra Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:35:14 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956644 and if leopard have zero issues, why does apple update it from 10.51 to the recent released 10.55. to make change to the default wallpaper? you thick. and if leopard have zero issues, why does apple update it from 10.51 to the recent released 10.55. to make change to the default wallpaper? you thick.

]]> By: Adi Chandra http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956643 Adi Chandra Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:33:30 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956643 hey, i was talking about leopard. not snow leopard. hey, i was talking about leopard. not snow leopard.

]]> By: Dude http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956503 Dude Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:06:40 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956503 what does the size of a third-party application have to do with the size of mac os x? do you understand anything about computers? what does the size of a third-party application have to do with the size of mac os x?

do you understand anything about computers?

]]> By: Calgary Guru http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956500 Calgary Guru Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:59:45 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956500 One thing overlooked here... Often with Windows application installers, the file you download is just a small installer. Once you start up the installer, it completes the install by getting the actual data of the program over the internet... So the small download size of the initial file is a bit deceiving. I suspect that Firefox installer is that small because of this. One thing overlooked here… Often with Windows application installers, the file you download is just a small installer.

Once you start up the installer, it completes the install by getting the actual data of the program over the internet… So the small download size of the initial file is a bit deceiving.

I suspect that Firefox installer is that small because of this.

]]> By: [ T ] 空 之 城 - Snow Leopard不被期待的另一个原因 http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956484 [ T ] 空 之 城 - Snow Leopard不被期待的另一个原因 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:16:24 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956484 [...] 引用来源 | 此文章网址 | 转寄此文章 | 回应 [...] [...] 引用来源 | 此文章网址 | 转寄此文章 | 回应 [...]

]]> By: Sean http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956444 Sean Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:39:40 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956444 Thankfully Adi can tell the future for use all. Do you read tea leaves too? By the way, when I upgraded to Leopard the day it was issued, I had ZERO problems. Not one. Please explain that while you tell me how many grandchildren I will have. Thankfully Adi can tell the future for use all.

Do you read tea leaves too?

By the way, when I upgraded to Leopard the day it was issued, I had ZERO problems. Not one. Please explain that while you tell me how many grandchildren I will have.

]]> By: Adi Chandra http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956402 Adi Chandra Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:50:19 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956402 that's right Ian, so better use xslimmer to make the apps smaller. but remember to backup because some of the applications eventhough it's not being blacklisted will be refusing to work after getting slimmed. one example is CoverSutra. that’s right Ian, so better use xslimmer to make the apps smaller. but remember to backup because some of the applications eventhough it’s not being blacklisted will be refusing to work after getting slimmed. one example is CoverSutra.

]]> By: CrunchGear » Archive » Firefox 3.1 beta 2 is here http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956400 CrunchGear » Archive » Firefox 3.1 beta 2 is here Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:29:19 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956400 [...] any chance you missed this, now you can download the second beta, which has some new features like private browsing and [...] [...] any chance you missed this, now you can download the second beta, which has some new features like private browsing and [...]

]]> By: Ian Ian http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956394 Ian Ian Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:06:39 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956394 The reason is Universal applications - you in fact download two apps - PowerPC and Intel. The reason is Universal applications – you in fact download two apps – PowerPC and Intel.

]]> By: MBob http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956354 MBob Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:28:15 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956354 Yeah, you do get a lot of crap pre-installed on macs. I don't use any of iLife ... so thus it is crap. Yeah, you do get a lot of crap pre-installed on macs. I don’t use any of iLife … so thus it is crap.

]]> By: Adi Chandra http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956351 Adi Chandra Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:15:37 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956351 LOL. wtf dude. it's a major release, so it will have bugs. hope it's not too problematic because i really love to use snow leopard. LOL. wtf dude. it’s a major release, so it will have bugs. hope it’s not too problematic because i really love to use snow leopard.

]]> By: flunkycarter http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956350 flunkycarter Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:06:50 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956350 shut your mouth adi you whiney basturt. shut your mouth adi you whiney basturt.

]]> By: Devin Coldewey http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956340 Devin Coldewey Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:28:52 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956340 Heh heh. Fair enough! Still, the Minefield thing was just a reminder of issues I've always had with this OS. I'm just tired of the enormous size of practically everything on the OS. The included themes with iDVD, the printer library files taking up 20MB each... Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll update that. It seemed wrong to me in the first place, but it was too fun not to take a screenshot. :) Heh heh. Fair enough!

Still, the Minefield thing was just a reminder of issues I’ve always had with this OS. I’m just tired of the enormous size of practically everything on the OS. The included themes with iDVD, the printer library files taking up 20MB each…

Anyway, thanks for the info. I’ll update that. It seemed wrong to me in the first place, but it was too fun not to take a screenshot. :)

]]> By: MBob http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/08/another-reason-we-cant-wait-for-snow-leopard/comment-page-1/#comment-956338 MBob Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:19:55 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=57708#comment-956338 According to nthomas from #firefox on the mozilla net at 00:04 on 2008/12/09: "a temporary glitch meant there were lots of symbols included, it'll be fixed in the next nightly build" Good work making your point with what is a glitch! It seems that, if downloading 80mb java updates once every three months* is going to effect your Comcast bandwidth cap ... you have other issues. Note: I'm not sure on the frequency of Apple's Java updates, but they don't appear to be that frequent. According to nthomas from #firefox on the mozilla net at 00:04 on 2008/12/09:
“a temporary glitch meant there were lots of symbols included, it’ll be fixed in the next nightly build”

Good work making your point with what is a glitch!

It seems that, if downloading 80mb java updates once every three months* is going to effect your Comcast bandwidth cap … you have other issues.

Note: I’m not sure on the frequency of Apple’s Java updates, but they don’t appear to be that frequent.

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