Comments on: The RIAA won’t find ISPs so eager to cooperate with its new anti-piracy scheme http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/22/the-riaa-wont-find-isps-so-eager-to-cooperate-with-its-new-anti-piracy-scheme/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:21:24 -0500 hourly 1 By: Paul G http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/22/the-riaa-wont-find-isps-so-eager-to-cooperate-with-its-new-anti-piracy-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-962280 Paul G Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:03:14 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=60828#comment-962280 Every time the RIAA sues a person, an angel gets its wings. Merry Xmas to all corporate leeches. Every time the RIAA sues a person, an angel gets its wings. Merry Xmas to all corporate leeches.

]]> By: JarOfSonicMen http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/22/the-riaa-wont-find-isps-so-eager-to-cooperate-with-its-new-anti-piracy-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-961796 JarOfSonicMen Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:44:55 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=60828#comment-961796 A better question would be WHY effectively combat music piracy? The RIAA would have you believe that music piracy costs it millions every year, but that's a lie. They haven't made the case that illegal downloading costs them any more than recording tapes from the radio ever did. Legal music downloads have drastically reduced record companies' costs by minimizing inventory, which could be reduced even more if the RIAA and MPAA would embrace burn-on-demand. Just because someone downloads Britney's latest single or album does NOT mean that's $20 lost by the music industry. If we accept that the record company MIGHT have lost $5 on the deal (figure 10 goes to the record store, and production and promotion and inventory costs say another 5) then we can start looking there. But if we assume a 10% chance that the album would have ever been purchased by the person that downloaded it, then the record company lost 50 cents. When the record companies figure out that the RIAA is simply ticking off the fans and making a fortune for lawyers, then they'll shift entirely from lawsuits to, well, things like this with even less chance of succeeding. Theft is a cost of doing business. If the only way we ever heard your music was to pay for it, you would sell NOTHING.A majority of internet downloading, like internet, broadcast, and satellite radio, should be figured as advertising. A better question would be WHY effectively combat music piracy?

The RIAA would have you believe that music piracy costs it millions every year, but that’s a lie. They haven’t made the case that illegal downloading costs them any more than recording tapes from the radio ever did.

Legal music downloads have drastically reduced record companies’ costs by minimizing inventory, which could be reduced even more if the RIAA and MPAA would embrace burn-on-demand.

Just because someone downloads Britney’s latest single or album does NOT mean that’s $20 lost by the music industry. If we accept that the record company MIGHT have lost $5 on the deal (figure 10 goes to the record store, and production and promotion and inventory costs say another 5) then we can start looking there.

But if we assume a 10% chance that the album would have ever been purchased by the person that downloaded it, then the record company lost 50 cents.

When the record companies figure out that the RIAA is simply ticking off the fans and making a fortune for lawyers, then they’ll shift entirely from lawsuits to, well, things like this with even less chance of succeeding.

Theft is a cost of doing business. If the only way we ever heard your music was to pay for it, you would sell NOTHING.A majority of internet downloading, like internet, broadcast, and satellite radio, should be figured as advertising.

]]> By: gene http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/22/the-riaa-wont-find-isps-so-eager-to-cooperate-with-its-new-anti-piracy-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-961649 gene Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:53:03 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=60828#comment-961649 The RIAA and Directv, each time they sue an innocent person had to lie to the court. Where the person was innocent, it can be nothing but a lie. While the Justice system knows they are lying in in many cases, The justice system does nothing to protect the public. Next time you are a juror or a witness, do what Justice has done and ignore Justice. Jury Nullification is a good start. Let's see what Justice thinks when they are ignored just like innocent victims are. The RIAA and Directv, each time they sue an innocent person had to lie to the court. Where the person was innocent, it can be nothing but a lie. While the Justice system knows they are lying in in many cases, The justice system does nothing to protect the public. Next time you are a juror or a witness, do what Justice has done and ignore Justice. Jury Nullification is a good start. Let’s see what Justice thinks when they are ignored just like innocent victims are.

]]> By: Greg http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/22/the-riaa-wont-find-isps-so-eager-to-cooperate-with-its-new-anti-piracy-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-961528 Greg Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:57:29 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=60828#comment-961528 Not only will the ISP not want to do that because they'll lose money, if they start doing that they gain legal scrutiny. The only reason they can't be sued now is because they don't take a look at traffic and actively profile people's habits online. You think they are going to open themselves up to legal limbo to facilitate the people that were previously suing them to get records? Yeah - right. Not only will the ISP not want to do that because they’ll lose money, if they start doing that they gain legal scrutiny. The only reason they can’t be sued now is because they don’t take a look at traffic and actively profile people’s habits online. You think they are going to open themselves up to legal limbo to facilitate the people that were previously suing them to get records?

Yeah – right.

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