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	<title>Comments on: My chat with Verizon about FIOS</title>
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		<title>By: JOSH</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970922</link>
		<dc:creator>JOSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of you guy&#039;s are tools and noob&#039;s. I was on a 3G network on my Samsung A900 well before the thought of an Iphone hit anybody and I would tether hat phone to no end. Had great connections speeds and even played online using it. Something that even with the 3G iphone, the iphone users and owners still cant do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you guy&#8217;s are tools and noob&#8217;s. I was on a 3G network on my Samsung A900 well before the thought of an Iphone hit anybody and I would tether hat phone to no end. Had great connections speeds and even played online using it. Something that even with the 3G iphone, the iphone users and owners still cant do.</p>
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		<title>By: boutros-boutros</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970907</link>
		<dc:creator>boutros-boutros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970901</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Upper Manhattan and they don&#039;t offer it.  WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Upper Manhattan and they don&#8217;t offer it.  WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Mething</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970866</link>
		<dc:creator>Mething</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aleluia!!! Where do I sign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aleluia!!! Where do I sign?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hallock</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970856</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hallock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your irritation with FiOS, John. I live in SE Michigan which is straight locked into an AT&amp;T death spiral that dates all the way back to the Bell monopoly of the 70s and 80s. Because of this, Verizon is looking to sell what little incumbency it has in the midwest to the highest bidder in a package called &quot;GTE North.&quot;

I will never have real internets. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your irritation with FiOS, John. I live in SE Michigan which is straight locked into an AT&amp;T death spiral that dates all the way back to the Bell monopoly of the 70s and 80s. Because of this, Verizon is looking to sell what little incumbency it has in the midwest to the highest bidder in a package called &#8220;GTE North.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will never have real internets. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: weatherman</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970824</link>
		<dc:creator>weatherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those &quot;homogenized moronic customer service agents&quot; are people. Real people who probably can&#039;t find a better job, sloughing it out in the call center trenches making $6.50 an hour. They are fed limited amounts of information, they are told exactly what to do every minute of the day, and are probably under constant fear of losing their jobs if they say what they actually want to say to most of the assholes who call in and abuse them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those &#8220;homogenized moronic customer service agents&#8221; are people. Real people who probably can&#8217;t find a better job, sloughing it out in the call center trenches making $6.50 an hour. They are fed limited amounts of information, they are told exactly what to do every minute of the day, and are probably under constant fear of losing their jobs if they say what they actually want to say to most of the assholes who call in and abuse them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jabs</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970817</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lots of places around Pittsburgh with FIOS.  No T-Mob 3G, but I use AT&amp;T anyways and an iPhone.  And it sucks becuase it is -6 degrees out with a -25 degree windchill.  I kinda wish our Stillers and Baltimore game was today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of places around Pittsburgh with FIOS.  No T-Mob 3G, but I use AT&amp;T anyways and an iPhone.  And it sucks becuase it is -6 degrees out with a -25 degree windchill.  I kinda wish our Stillers and Baltimore game was today.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Aamoth</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970809</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Aamoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know Doug has it and likes it&quot;

Erroneous! I want it but the only thing available in Boston is Comcast. FIOS is available in just about every surrounding community, but not inside the city itself. I blame the mob, whether they have anything to do with it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know Doug has it and likes it&#8221;</p>
<p>Erroneous! I want it but the only thing available in Boston is Comcast. FIOS is available in just about every surrounding community, but not inside the city itself. I blame the mob, whether they have anything to do with it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: CLoud</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weatherman:

Peter was not being an ass at all. Peter adopted a reasonable attitude towards these scripted homogenized moronic customer service agents. Recently I found out after 2 phone calls and 2 emails that swear words get action. Next time I have to call a customer service department I will be a jerk and use cuss words because my time is valuable and this way they are disinclined to waste it.

ROCK ON PETER!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weatherman:</p>
<p>Peter was not being an ass at all. Peter adopted a reasonable attitude towards these scripted homogenized moronic customer service agents. Recently I found out after 2 phone calls and 2 emails that swear words get action. Next time I have to call a customer service department I will be a jerk and use cuss words because my time is valuable and this way they are disinclined to waste it.</p>
<p>ROCK ON PETER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: weatherman</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970752</link>
		<dc:creator>weatherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well to be fair, you were a bit of an ass. If you talked to me like that I wouldn&#039;t offer you FIOS even if I had it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to be fair, you were a bit of an ass. If you talked to me like that I wouldn&#8217;t offer you FIOS even if I had it.</p>
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		<title>By: Swebb</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970705</link>
		<dc:creator>Swebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen people, things could be worse...you could be in Pittsburgh with no FIOS, T-Mobz 3G, or temperatures about zero. We are in dire need of the GOOOOOOOD Stuff (read: super bowl rings) here in the rust belt, where you @ Phil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen people, things could be worse&#8230;you could be in Pittsburgh with no FIOS, T-Mobz 3G, or temperatures about zero. We are in dire need of the GOOOOOOOD Stuff (read: super bowl rings) here in the rust belt, where you @ Phil?</p>
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		<title>By: stenro</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970696</link>
		<dc:creator>stenro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, am FIOS-less in Brooklyn.
What I love is that every time I check on line, magically within a few days I get snail mail and calls from Verizon-  trying to sell me &quot;high-speed&quot; DSL Internet at a whopping 768kb!!!
Sure beats my pokey Time Warner/Roadrunner- NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, am FIOS-less in Brooklyn.<br />
What I love is that every time I check on line, magically within a few days I get snail mail and calls from Verizon-  trying to sell me &#8220;high-speed&#8221; DSL Internet at a whopping 768kb!!!<br />
Sure beats my pokey Time Warner/Roadrunner- NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970693</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Browser wise it may have been lacking but that was not soul purpose for 3g.  I am a heavy data user, so at the very beginning simply being able to stream internet radio and have it not automatically send all of my phone calls to voicemail is an initial god send.

But I use orb very heavily as well and the passing of data quickly really allowed 3g to shine.

Also using Remote VNC software was only accessible via 3g.

So while yes some of the nicer browsers such as Skyfire were not around at that time it isn&#039;t the iPhone that is completly behind that innovation.

Thunderhawk existed allowing full real web-page loading a few years back.  It did move at an ungodly speed however on EDGE but that innovation already existed.

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree, as I really don&#039;t feel that web browsing alone makes 3g worthwhile.  And frankly I am still not completely thrilled with Mobile Safari, it has a lovely render but its still lacking some key things Opera and Skyfire have really really nailed.

Granted I will give you Windows Mobile still doesn&#039;t have that perfect browser...but neither does the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Browser wise it may have been lacking but that was not soul purpose for 3g.  I am a heavy data user, so at the very beginning simply being able to stream internet radio and have it not automatically send all of my phone calls to voicemail is an initial god send.</p>
<p>But I use orb very heavily as well and the passing of data quickly really allowed 3g to shine.</p>
<p>Also using Remote VNC software was only accessible via 3g.</p>
<p>So while yes some of the nicer browsers such as Skyfire were not around at that time it isn&#8217;t the iPhone that is completly behind that innovation.</p>
<p>Thunderhawk existed allowing full real web-page loading a few years back.  It did move at an ungodly speed however on EDGE but that innovation already existed.</p>
<p>I suppose we will have to agree to disagree, as I really don&#8217;t feel that web browsing alone makes 3g worthwhile.  And frankly I am still not completely thrilled with Mobile Safari, it has a lovely render but its still lacking some key things Opera and Skyfire have really really nailed.</p>
<p>Granted I will give you Windows Mobile still doesn&#8217;t have that perfect browser&#8230;but neither does the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ankit Gupta</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970689</link>
		<dc:creator>Ankit Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really hoping that Sprint&#039;s ownership in Clearwire for the WiMax technology can change this a little, I&#039;m getting a bit tired of the current crap. I need someone to sell me internet for all my devices in a single package - home internet, cell phone, laptop, maybe my car someday, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really hoping that Sprint&#8217;s ownership in Clearwire for the WiMax technology can change this a little, I&#8217;m getting a bit tired of the current crap. I need someone to sell me internet for all my devices in a single package &#8211; home internet, cell phone, laptop, maybe my car someday, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: John Biggs</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970685</link>
		<dc:creator>John Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not trying to be difficult but 3G didn&#039;t SHINE until good browsers came along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not trying to be difficult but 3G didn&#8217;t SHINE until good browsers came along.</p>
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		<title>By: John Biggs</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970684</link>
		<dc:creator>John Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amazing stuff were you doing on that Cavalier besides downloading email a little more quickly? Did it have a really good browser?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazing stuff were you doing on that Cavalier besides downloading email a little more quickly? Did it have a really good browser?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970680</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummmmm.....I hate Verizon as much as the next guy...but no 3g until the iPhone????

I had an HTC Cavalier running smoothly on 3g in a nice sized service area before the 2g iphone came out.

John I know you are a self-proclaimed apple fanboy and all but seriously dude, you really don&#039;t know what your talking about when it comes to 3g and AT&amp;T clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummmmm&#8230;..I hate Verizon as much as the next guy&#8230;but no 3g until the iPhone????</p>
<p>I had an HTC Cavalier running smoothly on 3g in a nice sized service area before the 2g iphone came out.</p>
<p>John I know you are a self-proclaimed apple fanboy and all but seriously dude, you really don&#8217;t know what your talking about when it comes to 3g and AT&amp;T clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin Coldewey</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/15/my-chat-with-verizon-about-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-970679</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin Coldewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my god john, PNG</description>
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