Comments on: German “PearC” Apple clones aim to succeed at the Psystar game

By: Psystar’s folly: 12 million clones per year by 2011

Psystar’s folly: 12 million clones per year by 2011 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:49:04 +0000

[...] were clear and cultivated. In fact, the wild but unpredictable growth of dandelions like Psystar, PearC, and Power Computing (remember them?) will continue because, let’s be honest, if you could [...]

By: Quynhnie

Quynhnie — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:34:41 +0000

Heh, I’d like to see these clones users bring their busted box into an Apple store.
“Well, it’s running your OS, so it should be covered, right?? Nvm, that it doesn’t look all appl-ish”

By: buzzo

buzzo — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:11:12 +0000

“I love how in Germany there are just no laws!” … what does THAT mean ??? Of course there are laws, their interpretation is just very specific, namely that you must be able to read the EULA before you buy the software. In Europe we also think it’s crazy that in the US you can just run out and buy a gun. You should travel a little before making such comments.

By: Blogs 09/09

Blogs 09/09 — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:19:10 +0000

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By: elblogdeponja

elblogdeponja — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:42:10 +0000

[...] Link: German “PearC” Apple clones aim to succeed at the Psystar game (CrunchGear) [...]

By: Trips

Trips — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:37:53 +0000

LOL. Lucky for them, Steve Jobs isn’t nearly as gangsta as Bill Gates.

By: Maurice

Maurice — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:42:30 +0000

well come on now theay are german and lets be honest German company’s just dont seem to get computers and teh intertubes at a profesional level, hobby programmers and very good grey area hackers yes

And german consumer laws can get very strange no BOGOF deals

theres also the knee jerk anti americanisiam in some euopean contries to contend with.

By: Robin G

Robin G — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:17:48 +0000

Well done – you get the prize for the dumbest comment on the article.

The debate is NOT am i allowed to pirate or steal any IP, but whether i am forced to only put apple software on apple hardware – and due to a reported implementation of user agreements law in Germany, apple can’t force you to agree to that like they can in the US.

Did you read it?

By: CrunchGear Week in Review: Atlantis Check-In Edition

CrunchGear Week in Review: Atlantis Check-In Edition — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:00:39 +0000

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By: Trevor

Trevor — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:45:21 +0000

@ Devin

This article smacks of sensationalist journalism. I still don’t know what you’ve tried to achieve by writing the article in the way that you have.

I think the EU has been fantastic in curbing the enthusiasm of many cowboy companies & I’m not even European.

“where it’s possible that the law permits this piratical behavior”

If your intention is to educate us with breaking news, then do that. If I wanted to read propagandist theories I would have subscribed to the Wall Street Journal.

By: ¿Puede una empresa limitar lo que hacemos con sus productos? |

¿Puede una empresa limitar lo que hacemos con sus productos? | — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:06:33 +0000

[...] Por el momento, el litigio enfrenta a Apple con los argumentos sostenidos por la Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), pero no cabe duda de que incluso pensando en un hipotético fallo a favor de la compañía de acuerdo a las leyes norteamericanas, Apple lo tendría muchísimo más difícil si intentase aplicar los mismos principios siguiendo la legislación de la Unión Europea. En un caso relacionado, el de la fabricación de clones de máquinas Apple por Psystar, que la justicia norteamericana falló a favor de Apple, parece que la alemana PearC, que hace exactamente lo mismo que Psystar, podría tener muchas mejores opciones de defender la legalidad de su iniciativa de acuerdo a la legi…. [...]

By: Joe Mescher

Joe Mescher — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:03:49 +0000

I’d be concerned:

Two days ago I wrote a post about ‘Blood Diamond’ minerals being used in products like the iPhone.

The next day my iPhone stopped working.

Coincidence?

http://www.firstcollegenowwhat.com/2009/02/slaves-built-my-iphone/

By: Jochen Siegle

Jochen Siegle — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:57:29 +0000

legal or not- i wonder about the performance and stability of these systems. anyone tested one the german mac clones?

By: Andraz

Andraz — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:20:02 +0000

good to see some people havent changed. But yes, they could :). And they still can. Yes, they can.

By: macpro owner

macpro owner — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:45:22 +0000

So, during the iPhone craze, I was faced with the same problem.

At first, I thought a MacPro was overpriced, and thought of building a hackintosh, etc.

However, if you price out the parts that go into a base-level MacPro (not including any memory upgrades), you’ll find it’s *cheaper* than the same box from Dell. (The Xeons and Intel motherboard account for a significant amount of the price.)

Having done this comparison, I realized that I should just buy a MacPro, because I get my money’s worth, plus the assurance that it’s a genuine Apple part. (For me, any downtime costs a lot of money, so I don’t want to screw around with alternatives. Your mileage may vary…)

By: shigzeo

shigzeo — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:07:45 +0000

you can encrypt something but only to a point. someone smarter than you will eventually break your encryption.

i think the point that you are forced to have two products in one is valid. while i can make no intriguing addition to any argument: the state of germany’s legal system if i understand it support the rights of the individual and the state of the american legal system is to support the corporation.

eventually, you americans too will probably want to have your legal system looking out for your rights rather than the rights of a company or companies that just want your money.

By: Mickey Mouse!!!!

Mickey Mouse!!!! — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:40:01 +0000

nice. you gotta love the germans!

By: Peter

Peter — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:08:22 +0000

@dont sell in europe. It’s bul*****t to say we don’t respect intellectual property. Software is protected in Europe from the moment it is written by authors rights, the same as music, a book or a painting. Not even need to patent it like in USA. Hardware can be patented and it is respected. Actually France is the country in the world where music authors are given the most money per capita in Author rights. Even bars have to pay an important tax that goes to authors if they want to put music from the radio. However we respect free market and don’t accept monopolies of any kind which is why we protect consumers. For example, if you get a mortgage in US, you are often “forced” to get a life insurance from the same bank to cover the mortgage. Here the bank can ask you for an insurance, but you are free to get the cheapest insurance that covers the mortgage. NOT IN THE US. The same for travel insurances tied to flights, etc. The same for music, why if I buy a piece of music would I only be allowed to play it on a proprietary device like the IPod. This would give IPods a monopoly. I am sure you understand that monopolies are not good for society, and this is why we have these laws. To protect the rights of consumers and avoid monopilies.

By: Peter

Peter — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:07:20 +0000

@dont sell in europe. It’s bullshit to say we don’t respect intellectual property. Software is protected in Europe from the moment it is written by authors rights, the same as music, a book or a painting. Not even need to patent it like in USA. Hardware can be patented and it is respected. Actually France is the country in the world where music authors are given the most money per capita in Author rights. Even bars have to pay an important tax that goes to authors if they want to put music from the radio. However we respect free market and don’t accept monopolies of any kind which is why we protect consumers. For example, if you get a mortgage in US, you are often “forced” to get a life insurance from the same bank to cover the mortgage. Here the bank can ask you for an insurance, but you are free to get the cheapest insurance that covers the mortgage. NOT IN THE US. The same for travel insurances tied to flights, etc. The same for music, why if I buy a piece of music would I only be allowed to play it on a proprietary device like the IPod. This would give IPods a monopoly. I am sure you understand that monopolies are not good for society, and this is why we have these laws. To protect the rights of consumers and avoid monopilies.

By: Zeus

Zeus — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:05:05 +0000

You assume that mac os is capable of handling hardware it was never tested against. I would bet it will fail like a dead bird once it goes mainstream