Comments on: The surfeit of content: Life in the post-optical world http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:29:07 -0500 hourly 1 By: Christian K http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-990996 Christian K Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:22:46 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-990996 Drew, If you are already watching your video content on a computer of some sort you should check out VLC for DVD viewing. You can skip past the FBI warning/previews/transitions easily. Regarding the larger issue, I am one of the new Hulu, ABC.com, CBS.com Netfix people. I watch all of my content with a regular cable internet connection on those 4 sites, occasionally buying a series on iTunes if it isn't offered on one of those. On my 47" lcd the content looks great. The only site I have had bandwidth issues with is Hulu. CK Drew,

If you are already watching your video content on a computer of some sort you should check out VLC for DVD viewing. You can skip past the FBI warning/previews/transitions easily.

Regarding the larger issue, I am one of the new Hulu, ABC.com, CBS.com Netfix people. I watch all of my content with a regular cable internet connection on those 4 sites, occasionally buying a series on iTunes if it isn’t offered on one of those. On my 47″ lcd the content looks great. The only site I have had bandwidth issues with is Hulu.

CK

]]> By: Ajax Jones http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989291 Ajax Jones Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:08:26 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989291 sorry, I thought this was the discussion about laserdisc for a moment sorry, I thought this was the discussion about laserdisc for a moment

]]> By: Coleman http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989253 Coleman Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:53:29 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989253 "What the ISP’s want is irrelevant. As people stream more, they are simply going to adapt their business model." Yeah, imagine the bandwidth they have tied up in cable tv. if they made that part of the internet stream, i think we would have plenty of bandwidth for any thing being discussed here. “What the ISP’s want is irrelevant. As people stream more, they are simply going to adapt their business model.” Yeah, imagine the bandwidth they have tied up in cable tv. if they made that part of the internet stream, i think we would have plenty of bandwidth for any thing being discussed here.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="753385400">Tim Ferguson</fb:name> http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989198 Tim Ferguson Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:07:31 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989198 Most of the dissentors are too old and narrow minded. John alludes: "I doubt my son’s generation will care" I'm in my 30s and personally thought this post is a few years out of date... The BluRay HDDVD battle had little interest to me because I had already sworn off technically advanced but archaeic optical media, long before the battle began. Ubiquitous broadband, faster pipes, newer optimised technologies (repurposed 'bittorrent' models / useable smart phones / the cloud as storage), and a rapidly changing landscape are painting a future that likens 'ownership' and IP to gas guzzlers and their oil... Sure we can't just get rid of them yet, but we all know it's coming... The music industry is a prime understudy... Music takes up a lot less bandwidth and has already made CDs pretty much obsolete... Services like Spotify (fairly high quality for a streaming service - and transparent on most peoples PCs) are fast making digital stores like Amazon and iTunes obsolete too... The public library of the 21st century is close at hand! Most of the dissentors are too old and narrow minded. John alludes: “I doubt my son’s generation will care”

I’m in my 30s and personally thought this post is a few years out of date… The BluRay HDDVD battle had little interest to me because I had already sworn off technically advanced but archaeic optical media, long before the battle began.

Ubiquitous broadband, faster pipes, newer optimised technologies (repurposed ‘bittorrent’ models / useable smart phones / the cloud as storage), and a rapidly changing landscape are painting a future that likens ‘ownership’ and IP to gas guzzlers and their oil… Sure we can’t just get rid of them yet, but we all know it’s coming…

The music industry is a prime understudy… Music takes up a lot less bandwidth and has already made CDs pretty much obsolete… Services like Spotify (fairly high quality for a streaming service – and transparent on most peoples PCs) are fast making digital stores like Amazon and iTunes obsolete too…

The public library of the 21st century is close at hand!

]]> By: Cory http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989110 Cory Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:48:48 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989110 "Its more or less the same price as DVD and the players are alot cheaper." Are you on crack? Find me a new blue ray player for under $30, and a new blue ray disk for $10. “Its more or less the same price as DVD and the players are alot cheaper.”

Are you on crack?

Find me a new blue ray player for under $30, and a new blue ray disk for $10.

]]> By: Engago Team http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989067 Engago Team Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:07:28 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989067 Philips will be marketing a Net TV set that has streaming videos (Youtube,...). The same technology will be marketed by Samsung too. When the mainstream manufacturers are offering the service, then the smaller ones need to look for another emerging niche market. Philips will be marketing a Net TV set that has streaming videos (Youtube,…).

The same technology will be marketed by Samsung too.

When the mainstream manufacturers are offering the service, then the smaller ones need to look for another emerging niche market.

]]> By: albsure http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989062 albsure Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:32:46 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989062 BluRay will replace DVD because its backwardly compatible. Its more or less the same price as DVD and the players are alot cheaper. For the world (not just the US) BluRay is by far the most appropriate form of distributing HD films at present. And will be for a long time because telecommunications is a BIG game. It takes years to improve infrastucture. In that time BluRay will just take all the new DVD business thats there. For a few economies (US et al..) there will be more choice in how you watch films etc.. But they will just be another choice in the short term. Not a complete wipe out of Blu Ray/DVD. Finally, BluRay will be the benchmark for watching films and streaming wont touch it for a while. If you want a reliable full HD experience in your living room on a big screen TV. Blu Ray is it for the next 5 yrs. BluRay will replace DVD because its backwardly compatible. Its more or less the same price as DVD and the players are alot cheaper. For the world (not just the US) BluRay is by far the most appropriate form of distributing HD films at present. And will be for a long time because telecommunications is a BIG game. It takes years to improve infrastucture. In that time BluRay will just take all the new DVD business thats there.

For a few economies (US et al..) there will be more choice in how you watch films etc.. But they will just be another choice in the short term. Not a complete wipe out of Blu Ray/DVD.

Finally, BluRay will be the benchmark for watching films and streaming wont touch it for a while. If you want a reliable full HD experience in your living room on a big screen TV. Blu Ray is it for the next 5 yrs.

]]> By: Thursday, March 5, 2009 | shiner.clay http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989051 Thursday, March 5, 2009 | shiner.clay Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:33:08 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989051 [...] Why streaming is the death of the optical media world [...] [...] Why streaming is the death of the optical media world [...]

]]> By: 工具及科技新闻 » Blog Archive » 在过多的内容：生活在后光学世界 http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989048 工具及科技新闻 » Blog Archive » 在过多的内容：生活在后光学世界 Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:45:24 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989048 [...] 在过多的内容：生活在后光学世界 作为威廉吉布森说： “未来是已经在这里-它仅仅是分配不均。 ”几年前我还以为是一个视频流不可能实现的梦想。网络太慢，我们说，没有人关心流。有几个我们举行了火炬，并大声在stentorian的声音说： “我们应流！ ”但仍不能。我们有TiVo公司，但这是安全躲藏在硬盘上，在一个方块，坐在旁边的我的电视。我能得到一些视频在线-有简短一线希望与网站 SurftheChannel及其之流（基本上，基于网络的盗版活动的网站）和谷歌视频许诺完整长度的电影在线。但是，我始终坚持的Netflix和 DVD光盘。现在我还记得，当我的儿子出生，三年前，我们对3的DVD /无限选择计划Netflix的。现在，随着我国新的女儿mewling的电视，我在1张DVD /流计划。事情正在发生变化急剧。 crunchgear [...] [...] 在过多的内容：生活在后光学世界 作为威廉吉布森说： “未来是已经在这里-它仅仅是分配不均。 ”几年前我还以为是一个视频流不可能实现的梦想。网络太慢，我们说，没有人关心流。有几个我们举行了火炬，并大声在stentorian的声音说： “我们应流！ ”但仍不能。我们有TiVo公司，但这是安全躲藏在硬盘上，在一个方块，坐在旁边的我的电视。我能得到一些视频在线-有简短一线希望与网站 SurftheChannel及其之流（基本上，基于网络的盗版活动的网站）和谷歌视频许诺完整长度的电影在线。但是，我始终坚持的Netflix和 DVD光盘。现在我还记得，当我的儿子出生，三年前，我们对3的DVD /无限选择计划Netflix的。现在，随着我国新的女儿mewling的电视，我在1张DVD /流计划。事情正在发生变化急剧。 crunchgear [...]

]]> By: photomaniacal.com » Blog Archive » Streaming Video Grows; YouTube Reports 6.3 Billion Videos Viewed http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989039 photomaniacal.com » Blog Archive » Streaming Video Grows; YouTube Reports 6.3 Billion Videos Viewed Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:11:54 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989039 [...] the first, John Biggs writing for ChrunchGear, discusses the shift from optical video to streaming video in just the past few years, resulting in [...] [...] the first, John Biggs writing for ChrunchGear, discusses the shift from optical video to streaming video in just the past few years, resulting in [...]

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="666604119">Gregory Cortez</fb:name> http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-989009 Gregory Cortez Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:00:00 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-989009 This is something that, i too believe is in the near future. Eventually all movie releases will come via download and play of a beefed up appleTV type device. I love my appleTV and prefer to portability with my devices over a DVD. This is something that, i too believe is in the near future. Eventually all movie releases will come via download and play of a beefed up appleTV type device. I love my appleTV and prefer to portability with my devices over a DVD.

]]> By: Connie http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988997 Connie Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:14:29 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988997 I still like dvd's. I hate commercials and if I watch some show online you have to sit through the commercials. I don't buy very many dvd's anymore. I can rent them for $1 from Redbox. If I really like the movie, I will buy it cheap from the video store after they sell it when they are done renting it. I still like dvd’s. I hate commercials and if I watch some show online you have to sit through the commercials. I don’t buy very many dvd’s anymore. I can rent them for $1 from Redbox. If I really like the movie, I will buy it cheap from the video store after they sell it when they are done renting it.

]]> By: ESLKid75 http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988988 ESLKid75 Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:54:32 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988988 Good point, actually... Just look at Hulu asking Boxee to remove Hulu functionality cuz it made it too easy to access on a TV set... Do you think that would have happened if Hulu weren't instructed to do that by either NBC or Fox or both? (parent companies) Good point, actually… Just look at Hulu asking Boxee to remove Hulu functionality cuz it made it too easy to access on a TV set…

Do you think that would have happened if Hulu weren’t instructed to do that by either NBC or Fox or both? (parent companies)

]]> By: Wealth Alchemist http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988940 Wealth Alchemist Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:31:10 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988940 Well, this is exactly Blockbuster 's bankruptcy is near! http://www.wealthalchemist.com/Blog/2009/03/blockbuster-filing-bankruptcy/ Well, this is exactly Blockbuster ’s bankruptcy is near!

http://www.wealthalchemist.com/Blog/2009/03/blockbuster-filing-bankruptcy/

]]> By: Tom Wong http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988925 Tom Wong Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:39:10 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988925 Arent you like $4 million short of that dream still Arent you like $4 million short of that dream still

]]> By: ohhellothere http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988913 ohhellothere Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:34:48 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988913 Physical media isn't quite dead, but it is certainly on the way out. Blu-ray is a good case. It is still pushing hard, but the adoption rate is low and people are turned off by the high prices and high player prices. Most people who have mountains of DVDs aren't going to want to replace them with another disc. They will replace them I think with a streaming service. I own a VUDU Box and have been using that to rent movies. I enjoy it more than going to the store to rent movies. The studios are even opening up now to HD purchases, so that is another good thing. I personally won't replace my DVD collection with Blu-ray, but I might replace it digitally. Physical media isn’t quite dead, but it is certainly on the way out. Blu-ray is a good case. It is still pushing hard, but the adoption rate is low and people are turned off by the high prices and high player prices. Most people who have mountains of DVDs aren’t going to want to replace them with another disc.

They will replace them I think with a streaming service. I own a VUDU Box and have been using that to rent movies. I enjoy it more than going to the store to rent movies. The studios are even opening up now to HD purchases, so that is another good thing.

I personally won’t replace my DVD collection with Blu-ray, but I might replace it digitally.

]]> By: OffRail1 http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988907 OffRail1 Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:01:48 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988907 I have to laugh every time I hear the words "right to content". TV and Movies aren't a right. I have to laugh every time I hear the words “right to content”. TV and Movies aren’t a right.

]]> By: Streaming Dude http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988905 Streaming Dude Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:54:28 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988905 "The ISP’s wouldn’t want this. The content creators wouldn’t want this. The average person wouldn’t want this. It’s not going to happen." ------------- What the ISP's want is irrelevant. As people stream more, they are simply going to adapt their business model. Content creators have no say in the matter. The average person ABSOLUTELY wants this. Think about how many more video streams people watch today vs. even two years ago. I don't live in Silicon Valley, but in plain old middle America. Notwithstanding, I know more and more people that have hooked up their PCs or Macs to their HDTV and cancelled their cable subscriptions. Who needs 150 channels (140 of which I couldn't care less about) when I can watch what I want, when I want? It's not going to happen? Dude, it's already happening... “The ISP’s wouldn’t want this.
The content creators wouldn’t want this.
The average person wouldn’t want this.

It’s not going to happen.”

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What the ISP’s want is irrelevant. As people stream more, they are simply going to adapt their business model.
Content creators have no say in the matter.
The average person ABSOLUTELY wants this. Think about how many more video streams people watch today vs. even two years ago. I don’t live in Silicon Valley, but in plain old middle America. Notwithstanding, I know more and more people that have hooked up their PCs or Macs to their HDTV and cancelled their cable subscriptions. Who needs 150 channels (140 of which I couldn’t care less about) when I can watch what I want, when I want?
It’s not going to happen? Dude, it’s already happening…

]]> By: Mazen Sadat http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988880 Mazen Sadat Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:11 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988880 Streaming is the future no doubt but it is going to take a very long time before it dominates in the mainstream...Expect a fierce fight for the legacy companies too! Streaming is the future no doubt but it is going to take a very long time before it dominates in the mainstream…Expect a fierce fight for the legacy companies too!

]]> By: Jim Z http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/05/the-surfeit-of-content-life-in-the-post-optical-world/comment-page-1/#comment-988866 Jim Z Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:27:47 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=76598#comment-988866 Drew, What do you think will eventually happen with streaming media? The reason for the previews on DVDs is marketing. Hulu is great but not commercial free, and NetFlix, you pay for. Once the studios realize that this is viable and mainstream (which would increase the piracy rates), they will add the FBI warning as well. Everyone is out to make money and with shrinking profit margins, they will use every bit of technology to do so. Just like studios today pay for the previews that are added to DVDs and to movies (trust me on this one - my sister in law is a VP of Marketing at Universal responsible for media relations), the same thing will eventually happen in streaming media. The problem with streaming media is that they can force you to watch it while on a DVD, you can always fast forward... Jim Drew,

What do you think will eventually happen with streaming media? The reason for the previews on DVDs is marketing. Hulu is great but not commercial free, and NetFlix, you pay for. Once the studios realize that this is viable and mainstream (which would increase the piracy rates), they will add the FBI warning as well.

Everyone is out to make money and with shrinking profit margins, they will use every bit of technology to do so. Just like studios today pay for the previews that are added to DVDs and to movies (trust me on this one – my sister in law is a VP of Marketing at Universal responsible for media relations), the same thing will eventually happen in streaming media. The problem with streaming media is that they can force you to watch it while on a DVD, you can always fast forward…

Jim

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