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	<title>Comments on: Verizon calls out Cablevision over ‘fastest broadband in America’ claim</title>
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		<title>By: CableTechTalk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Verizon and Parlor Tricks</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1014777</link>
		<dc:creator>CableTechTalk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Verizon and Parlor Tricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 03:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When Verizon thought they had the edge, they bragged pretty loudly. Some blogs, such as GigaOM and CrunchGear, noted that Verizon seems to be protesting a little too much this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When Verizon thought they had the edge, they bragged pretty loudly. Some blogs, such as GigaOM and CrunchGear, noted that Verizon seems to be protesting a little too much this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jackiebeans</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1014520</link>
		<dc:creator>jackiebeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a fan of Verizon, but I love my FiOS connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a fan of Verizon, but I love my FiOS connection.</p>
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		<title>By: foxmajik</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1014162</link>
		<dc:creator>foxmajik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; “One estimate,” no doubt carried out by “We hate Cablevision, Inc.,” said that one person can sap 60 percent of a given neighborhood’s bandwidth.

Actually that&#039;s true.

I used to do tech support for @home/ATTBI/Comcast.

Cable internet uses a shared bandwidth system.  In each neighborhood there is a &quot;pedestal&quot; that contains a router that is allotted a specific amount of bandwidth.  Everyone who has cable internet in that neighborhood has a connection plugged into that one router.

If someone in your neighborhood has enough open, streaming connections to consume all of the bandwidth on your neighborhood router it slows down everyone else&#039;s connection because no more bandwidth may be allocated to that local router until that person&#039;s streaming connections drop.

So it only takes one person backing up their hard drive over an FTP connection to hose everyone in the neighborhood.

Given, that&#039;s not a big problem if you live in an area where there are not a lot of power users like, say, Prague, Oklahoma.

However if you live somewhere like Portland or San Jose and you&#039;re on cable, you&#039;re probably looking at DSL speeds most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; “One estimate,” no doubt carried out by “We hate Cablevision, Inc.,” said that one person can sap 60 percent of a given neighborhood’s bandwidth.</p>
<p>Actually that&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>I used to do tech support for @home/ATTBI/Comcast.</p>
<p>Cable internet uses a shared bandwidth system.  In each neighborhood there is a &#8220;pedestal&#8221; that contains a router that is allotted a specific amount of bandwidth.  Everyone who has cable internet in that neighborhood has a connection plugged into that one router.</p>
<p>If someone in your neighborhood has enough open, streaming connections to consume all of the bandwidth on your neighborhood router it slows down everyone else&#8217;s connection because no more bandwidth may be allocated to that local router until that person&#8217;s streaming connections drop.</p>
<p>So it only takes one person backing up their hard drive over an FTP connection to hose everyone in the neighborhood.</p>
<p>Given, that&#8217;s not a big problem if you live in an area where there are not a lot of power users like, say, Prague, Oklahoma.</p>
<p>However if you live somewhere like Portland or San Jose and you&#8217;re on cable, you&#8217;re probably looking at DSL speeds most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1014022</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point on the perpetual unavailability of FiOS. Cablevision&#039;s big advantage in this fight is the infrastructure is already there, it just needs some cheap DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades. But bringing fiber to everyone&#039;s house is time consuming and expensive. VZ is rolling FIOS out as fast as it can, but that&#039;s just not fast enough for most.

One but: like the man says, these kinds of speeds aren&#039;t all that useful...yet. But eventually our network will be upgraded enough for it to start making a difference. By that time, there will be tons more of the &quot;big files&quot; were starting to see more of (i.e. high def movies). The question is, how many more fancy nobs can Cablevision keep putting on its thin pipes before it hits a dead end while fiber leaves it in the dust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point on the perpetual unavailability of FiOS. Cablevision&#8217;s big advantage in this fight is the infrastructure is already there, it just needs some cheap DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades. But bringing fiber to everyone&#8217;s house is time consuming and expensive. VZ is rolling FIOS out as fast as it can, but that&#8217;s just not fast enough for most.</p>
<p>One but: like the man says, these kinds of speeds aren&#8217;t all that useful&#8230;yet. But eventually our network will be upgraded enough for it to start making a difference. By that time, there will be tons more of the &#8220;big files&#8221; were starting to see more of (i.e. high def movies). The question is, how many more fancy nobs can Cablevision keep putting on its thin pipes before it hits a dead end while fiber leaves it in the dust?</p>
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		<title>By: HappyStretchedThin</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1014001</link>
		<dc:creator>HappyStretchedThin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  300 MG file, like SO QUICK (top right testimonial)!  I&#039;m totally convinced.  We all need to switch to Verizon right away.  G is a few letters down, so it must be WAY better than MB, whether that means bits OR bytes.  I&#039;m going with FiOS.  Dang!  Not available in my area...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  300 MG file, like SO QUICK (top right testimonial)!  I&#8217;m totally convinced.  We all need to switch to Verizon right away.  G is a few letters down, so it must be WAY better than MB, whether that means bits OR bytes.  I&#8217;m going with FiOS.  Dang!  Not available in my area&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina LeFaye</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1013960</link>
		<dc:creator>Katrina LeFaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I get the constant adverts and every time I call they try and get me to switch to FIOS. Even though I tell them it is not available in my area they still try to sell me on it. 

I HATE VERIZON.
Alas I am in an indi area for Cable so stuck with pathetic dsl or pathetic local no name cable company internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I get the constant adverts and every time I call they try and get me to switch to FIOS. Even though I tell them it is not available in my area they still try to sell me on it. </p>
<p>I HATE VERIZON.<br />
Alas I am in an indi area for Cable so stuck with pathetic dsl or pathetic local no name cable company internet.</p>
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		<title>By: yeah</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1013924</link>
		<dc:creator>yeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg I know, I live in SW CT and these awful commercials are on every few minutes. And every day my snail mailbox is clogged with multilingual ads to &quot;our neighbor&quot; etc. even though I am already a customer and they have my info.

And I&#039;m sure they pass all the advertising costs right along to me too.

I&#039;d love to switch to another internet provider like FIOS or AT&amp;T but they aren&#039;t available in my area yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg I know, I live in SW CT and these awful commercials are on every few minutes. And every day my snail mailbox is clogged with multilingual ads to &#8220;our neighbor&#8221; etc. even though I am already a customer and they have my info.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure they pass all the advertising costs right along to me too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to switch to another internet provider like FIOS or AT&amp;T but they aren&#8217;t available in my area yet.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/30/verizon-calls-out-cablevision-over-%e2%80%98fastest-broadband-in-america%e2%80%99-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-1013915</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fios is probably is available in my part of LI, judging by the way they obnoxiously advertise.  It&#039;s bad enough that I constantly get their ads in the mail and over the phone, but now they periodically go door to door and trying to be polite doesn&#039;t work.  They only thing that gets them to leave is closing the door on them mid sentence.

I haven&#039;t had any issues with cablevision for years.  The only thing that would make me switch is if they announced they were going to cap usage like some other ISP&#039;s of late.  Thankfully for now, with cablevision, unlimited means unlimited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fios is probably is available in my part of LI, judging by the way they obnoxiously advertise.  It&#8217;s bad enough that I constantly get their ads in the mail and over the phone, but now they periodically go door to door and trying to be polite doesn&#8217;t work.  They only thing that gets them to leave is closing the door on them mid sentence.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had any issues with cablevision for years.  The only thing that would make me switch is if they announced they were going to cap usage like some other ISP&#8217;s of late.  Thankfully for now, with cablevision, unlimited means unlimited.</p>
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