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		<title>By: A Second Opinion On Palm’s Pre App Numbers</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1040947</link>
		<dc:creator>A Second Opinion On Palm’s Pre App Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a treasure trove (a rat&#8217;s nest, some would say) of opinions, and we have been known to attack the Pre (savagely and repeatedly) despite our interest in it. The app sales numbers for the Pre need [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a treasure trove (a rat&#8217;s nest, some would say) of opinions, and we have been known to attack the Pre (savagely and repeatedly) despite our interest in it. The app sales numbers for the Pre need [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A second opinion on Palm&#8217;s Pre app sales</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1040896</link>
		<dc:creator>A second opinion on Palm&#8217;s Pre app sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a treasure trove (a rat&#8217;s nest, some would say) of opinions, and we have been known to attack the Pre (savagely and repeatedly) despite our interest in it. The app sales numbers for the Pre need [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a treasure trove (a rat&#8217;s nest, some would say) of opinions, and we have been known to attack the Pre (savagely and repeatedly) despite our interest in it. The app sales numbers for the Pre need [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1039995</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lmao at this dumbass that wrote this article. hes sure eating crow right about now after the Pre success and bringing Palm back to life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lmao at this dumbass that wrote this article. hes sure eating crow right about now after the Pre success and bringing Palm back to life.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1032919</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am TOTALLY hating you right now! I&#039;m going to try and find 2 for my wife and I today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am TOTALLY hating you right now! I&#8217;m going to try and find 2 for my wife and I today!</p>
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		<title>By: abcyesn</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1032761</link>
		<dc:creator>abcyesn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got mine!!! my WONDERFUL hubby didnt want me there by myself &amp; my 8 yr old did NOT want to get up at 5 am &amp; go, so he went by himself.  I was surprised cuz he told me Monday he was soooo sick of hearing me talk about that effin phone!! lol - he got there at 6am there were 2 cars in the lot but nobody in line.
at 7:30 i told him to go start the line - sure enough a few more people followed.  Our BB had 10 &amp; I (technically my husband) was first in line. 
BB rep came out at 9 and gave &quot;line tix&quot; and started the paperwork. 
The first one they tried to activate was defective so sorry to the person who was #10 and didnt get a pre!!
I got mine and will be playing with it for the rest of the day (at least)!!!!  Talk more at http://www.PalmPreForum.org see ya there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got mine!!! my WONDERFUL hubby didnt want me there by myself &amp; my 8 yr old did NOT want to get up at 5 am &amp; go, so he went by himself.  I was surprised cuz he told me Monday he was soooo sick of hearing me talk about that effin phone!! lol &#8211; he got there at 6am there were 2 cars in the lot but nobody in line.<br />
at 7:30 i told him to go start the line &#8211; sure enough a few more people followed.  Our BB had 10 &amp; I (technically my husband) was first in line.<br />
BB rep came out at 9 and gave &#8220;line tix&#8221; and started the paperwork.<br />
The first one they tried to activate was defective so sorry to the person who was #10 and didnt get a pre!!<br />
I got mine and will be playing with it for the rest of the day (at least)!!!!  Talk more at <a href="http://www.PalmPreForum.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.PalmPreForum.org</a> see ya there.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cellular Times &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Palm Pre treading on Apple turf: Syncs with iTunes</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1032318</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cellular Times &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Palm Pre treading on Apple turf: Syncs with iTunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] iPhone rival yet. And to think, some tech bloggers such as CruchGear had the audacity to call the Pre an &#8220;Also Ran&#8221; today (click the link for more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] iPhone rival yet. And to think, some tech bloggers such as CruchGear had the audacity to call the Pre an &#8220;Also Ran&#8221; today (click the link for more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-1/#comment-1032155</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Apple copied the Windows Mobile device and built a touchscreen PDA/phone. Damn! Apple needs to get some originality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Apple copied the Windows Mobile device and built a touchscreen PDA/phone. Damn! Apple needs to get some originality!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-1/#comment-1032154</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using success as a criteria for bias cannot be the reason you advocate so strongly for Apple. Last time I checked, MICROSOFT was THE most successful software company on the planet, yet I don&#039;t see it mentioned at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using success as a criteria for bias cannot be the reason you advocate so strongly for Apple. Last time I checked, MICROSOFT was THE most successful software company on the planet, yet I don&#8217;t see it mentioned at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Why Most of the Media World is WAY off Basis about Palm &#171; The SiliconANGLE</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1031954</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Most of the Media World is WAY off Basis about Palm &#171; The SiliconANGLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have started rolling out and of course there are those ridiculous bloggers out there using whatever hype tactics they can to bump their page views regardless of how idiotic they may [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have started rolling out and of course there are those ridiculous bloggers out there using whatever hype tactics they can to bump their page views regardless of how idiotic they may [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TheTechnologySources.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It’s Gonna Be A Summer Of SmartPhone Love</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1031898</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTechnologySources.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It’s Gonna Be A Summer Of SmartPhone Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and soon-to-be blocked iTunes syncing (maybe). John Biggs at CrunchGear thinks the Pre will be an also-ran, but it will probably be the biggest-selling also-ran in Sprint&#8217;s lineup. Today&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and soon-to-be blocked iTunes syncing (maybe). John Biggs at CrunchGear thinks the Pre will be an also-ran, but it will probably be the biggest-selling also-ran in Sprint&#8217;s lineup. Today&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Technical blogs with pictures and videos &#187; It’s Gonna Be A Summer Of SmartPhone Love</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1031638</link>
		<dc:creator>Technical blogs with pictures and videos &#187; It’s Gonna Be A Summer Of SmartPhone Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and soon-to-be blocked iTunes syncing (maybe). John Biggs at CrunchGear thinks the Pre will be an also-ran, but it will probably be the biggest-selling also-ran in Sprint&#8217;s lineup. Today&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and soon-to-be blocked iTunes syncing (maybe). John Biggs at CrunchGear thinks the Pre will be an also-ran, but it will probably be the biggest-selling also-ran in Sprint&#8217;s lineup. Today&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cec</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-1/#comment-1030940</link>
		<dc:creator>Cec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. You don&#039;t know exactly what&#039;s available for developers to make apps for the Pre. Therefore, your &quot;HTML + css + javascript&quot; claim is unbased. Their framework for developing apps gives you access to the Pre&#039;s functionality with a low learning curve.  

2. Palm&#039;s Mojo SDK can pretty much do anything a &quot;full-blown API&quot; (which I assume you mean is a framework for natively compiled apps in the language. Of course, Mojo is a &quot;full-blown API&quot;, so you lose on that account as well) can on the Palm Pre. 

3. TJ, &quot;Noobs&quot; ... &quot;Noobs&quot; ... &quot;noobs&quot;... &quot;If you know anything about programming you would agree with me.&quot; 

As a software developer, this comment makes me smile. Realize, TJ, that, as you acknowledged, a powerful language like JavaScript CAN be adapted with the right framework to create as compelling an experience as any compiled language on a smartphone. 

We will see if Palm&#039;s Mojo SDK is indeed that framework. For now, passing any judgment in this regard is pointless as we don&#039;t have all the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. You don&#8217;t know exactly what&#8217;s available for developers to make apps for the Pre. Therefore, your &#8220;HTML + css + javascript&#8221; claim is unbased. Their framework for developing apps gives you access to the Pre&#8217;s functionality with a low learning curve.  </p>
<p>2. Palm&#8217;s Mojo SDK can pretty much do anything a &#8220;full-blown API&#8221; (which I assume you mean is a framework for natively compiled apps in the language. Of course, Mojo is a &#8220;full-blown API&#8221;, so you lose on that account as well) can on the Palm Pre. </p>
<p>3. TJ, &#8220;Noobs&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;Noobs&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;noobs&#8221;&#8230; &#8220;If you know anything about programming you would agree with me.&#8221; </p>
<p>As a software developer, this comment makes me smile. Realize, TJ, that, as you acknowledged, a powerful language like JavaScript CAN be adapted with the right framework to create as compelling an experience as any compiled language on a smartphone. </p>
<p>We will see if Palm&#8217;s Mojo SDK is indeed that framework. For now, passing any judgment in this regard is pointless as we don&#8217;t have all the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-1/#comment-1030923</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, Noob!</description>
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		<title>By: apoplecticape</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1029962</link>
		<dc:creator>apoplecticape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After sticking with Palm for a while, I have grown to hate and mistrust them as much as the next guy...

But seriously, you can&#039;t come to all these conclusions based on pre-release speculation and hearsay. You talk about the Pre as if it&#039;s already been released and tested, but until it has, you&#039;re probably better off couching your statements as what they are: wild guesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After sticking with Palm for a while, I have grown to hate and mistrust them as much as the next guy&#8230;</p>
<p>But seriously, you can&#8217;t come to all these conclusions based on pre-release speculation and hearsay. You talk about the Pre as if it&#8217;s already been released and tested, but until it has, you&#8217;re probably better off couching your statements as what they are: wild guesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Janelo</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1029332</link>
		<dc:creator>Janelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Biggs, you&#039;ve just lost yourself a reader and a pair of eyeballs looking at the advertising on your Web site. You&#039;ve also lost my eyeballs on TechCrunch.com

Do your job properly and stop dissing the Palm Pre, or lose the eye balls of a lot of geeks with cosy wallets like me.

Enough with the Apple Kool-aid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Biggs, you&#8217;ve just lost yourself a reader and a pair of eyeballs looking at the advertising on your Web site. You&#8217;ve also lost my eyeballs on TechCrunch.com</p>
<p>Do your job properly and stop dissing the Palm Pre, or lose the eye balls of a lot of geeks with cosy wallets like me.</p>
<p>Enough with the Apple Kool-aid</p>
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		<title>By: jcunwired</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1028910</link>
		<dc:creator>jcunwired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The OS is nothing at all like that of the iPhone, how can you determine that its a total rip off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The OS is nothing at all like that of the iPhone, how can you determine that its a total rip off?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveZatz</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1028704</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveZatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever had venison jerky? Yum!</description>
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		<title>By: smartphonecell.com &#187; Palm Pre: An also-ran</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1028700</link>
		<dc:creator>smartphonecell.com &#187; Palm Pre: An also-ran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Palm Pre: An also-ran   Vote us [...]</description>
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		<title>By: atm</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1028635</link>
		<dc:creator>atm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I have been reading CG for a while and my opinion of you guys has flipped 180. Two words to the management here Quality Control. Opinions are fine but they shoudn&#039;t this irrational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I have been reading CG for a while and my opinion of you guys has flipped 180. Two words to the management here Quality Control. Opinions are fine but they shoudn&#8217;t this irrational.</p>
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		<title>By: Murdoc</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/palm-pre-an-also-ran/comment-page-3/#comment-1028627</link>
		<dc:creator>Murdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all reminds me of last year. Iphone 3g was getting close to being unveiled, and the iphone 1.0 was getting a little long in the tooth. In comes sprint, touting their &quot; iphone killer &quot; samsung instinct that was in some ways better than the iphone 1.0. Sprint launched a multi-million dollar advertising campaign comparing the instinct to the iphone, with a huge emphasis on the iphones lack of 3g. After just a few weeks of the instinct being available the iphone 3g was announced, along with the 2.0 software, and it crushed the instinct in every regard. Frankly i think the pre will be far more relevant over time than the instinct was, but it really just competes well with the iphone 3g. With a new iphone right around the corner, how relevant will the pre really be ( unless your stuck on sprint )?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all reminds me of last year. Iphone 3g was getting close to being unveiled, and the iphone 1.0 was getting a little long in the tooth. In comes sprint, touting their &#8221; iphone killer &#8221; samsung instinct that was in some ways better than the iphone 1.0. Sprint launched a multi-million dollar advertising campaign comparing the instinct to the iphone, with a huge emphasis on the iphones lack of 3g. After just a few weeks of the instinct being available the iphone 3g was announced, along with the 2.0 software, and it crushed the instinct in every regard. Frankly i think the pre will be far more relevant over time than the instinct was, but it really just competes well with the iphone 3g. With a new iphone right around the corner, how relevant will the pre really be ( unless your stuck on sprint )?</p>
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