Comments on: Security boffins: Apple’s blowing it http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/ Gadgets, gear and computer hardware. Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:06:17 -0500 hourly 1 By: iPhone security “broken” – business users take note « Kentmihlbauer’s Blog http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061795 iPhone security “broken” – business users take note « Kentmihlbauer’s Blog Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:04:13 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061795 [...] but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. It seems that with a little creative coding, or access to an insecure computer, the iPhone can be [...] [...] but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. It seems that with a little creative coding, or access to an insecure computer, the iPhone can be [...]

]]> By: Kanha.info » Blog Archive » iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061371 Kanha.info » Blog Archive » iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:38:19 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061371 [...] iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note Business, News, Technology, Travel An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...] [...] iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note Business, News, Technology, Travel An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...]

]]> By: The Far Edge » Blog Archive » iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061322 The Far Edge » Blog Archive » iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:00:21 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061322 [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...] [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...]

]]> By: iPhone Security Is “Broken” - Business Users Take Note - Programming Blog http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061196 iPhone Security Is “Broken” - Business Users Take Note - Programming Blog Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:57:33 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061196 [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...] [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...]

]]> By: iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061158 iPhone Security Is “Broken” – Business Users Take Note Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:00:43 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061158 [...] Published by TechCrunch.com An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...] [...] Published by TechCrunch.com An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...]

]]> By: Techknology’s Blog » iPhone security “broken” - business users take note http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061154 Techknology’s Blog » iPhone security “broken” - business users take note Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:58:57 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061154 [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...] [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...]

]]> By: iPhone security “broken” - business users take note http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1061143 iPhone security “broken” - business users take note Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:45:35 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1061143 [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...] [...] An Apple expert and hacker has shown that the iPhone, in all its various forms and moltings, is child’s play to compromise. This comes despite assurances from Apple regarding the 3GS’s encryption feature. Bad news for businesspeople of the 21st century, who have glommed onto the iPhone and its service halo like no other device. The wonder-phone has certainly changed the way smartphones and other devices are made, but this isn’t the first time Apple’s security measures have been described as being seriously lacking. [...]

]]> By: Eric http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1034376 Eric Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:10:10 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1034376 Utter nonsense stirred up by hair-on-fire bloviators who have a financial interest in selling security software to Mac users, who rightly know that Cornficker and their ilk could not be successful on the platform. Yes, Macs can be vulnerable. But not on the same scale as Windows. In certain areas, Windows is better than OS X when it comes to security. If you think Apple isn't prepared when the time comes, then you haven't been paying attention. Right now it's to their advantage to market themselves as so secure they don't need to take measures. It's true at this point. Not one single exploit that can be transmitted from one Mac to another. Only malware embedded in stolen Photoshop CS4 and iLife '09 on torrents. Apple actually had an Intel version of OS X the whole time, and only launched it when it was really needed. I'm betting the same way will go with security measures. One of the most unpleasant things about XP, Vista and 7 is the security hoops one has to jump through on an almost daily basis (I have both XP and 7 running on VMWare). Why do the same to OS X before necessary? Just my guess, I don't now for sure. Utter nonsense stirred up by hair-on-fire bloviators who have a financial interest in selling security software to Mac users, who rightly know that Cornficker and their ilk could not be successful on the platform.

Yes, Macs can be vulnerable. But not on the same scale as Windows. In certain areas, Windows is better than OS X when it comes to security. If you think Apple isn’t prepared when the time comes, then you haven’t been paying attention. Right now it’s to their advantage to market themselves as so secure they don’t need to take measures. It’s true at this point. Not one single exploit that can be transmitted from one Mac to another. Only malware embedded in stolen Photoshop CS4 and iLife ‘09 on torrents.

Apple actually had an Intel version of OS X the whole time, and only launched it when it was really needed. I’m betting the same way will go with security measures. One of the most unpleasant things about XP, Vista and 7 is the security hoops one has to jump through on an almost daily basis (I have both XP and 7 running on VMWare). Why do the same to OS X before necessary?

Just my guess, I don’t now for sure.

]]> By: Devin Coldewey http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1034251 Devin Coldewey Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:01:45 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1034251 I'm not excusing Microsoft's failures, though you don't mention any of the threats they promptly or preemptively addressed. It's about response time and working on a large scale. Conficker and other things are going to happen to Apple, and if they don't have a serious security detail, they're going to get dinged worse than MS did. And honestly, yes, it is the know-nothing users who are getting infected. If the hackers turned their attention to Apple, it'd be the same set - people who don't pay attention to what and where they're browsing, and don't care about updating their OS or running software to better secure their system. I’m not excusing Microsoft’s failures, though you don’t mention any of the threats they promptly or preemptively addressed. It’s about response time and working on a large scale. Conficker and other things are going to happen to Apple, and if they don’t have a serious security detail, they’re going to get dinged worse than MS did.

And honestly, yes, it is the know-nothing users who are getting infected. If the hackers turned their attention to Apple, it’d be the same set – people who don’t pay attention to what and where they’re browsing, and don’t care about updating their OS or running software to better secure their system.

]]> By: Lava http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/security-boffins-apples-blowing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1034238 Lava Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:19:36 +0000 http://www.crunchgear.com/?p=94191#comment-1034238 "Years of combating viral threats, malware, and so on (partially through their greater exposure and partially, it must be admitted, through bad programming) have resulted in a well-oiled machine which responds quickly and decisively to the threats which appear almost comically frequently. " What are you smoking and could I have some of it please. I guess that "well-oiled" machine is why stuff like Conflicker still happens all the time. Oh yeah. It's the USER'S FAULT (because, according to MS, their security model is so good, only lazy, know-nothing users can eff it up). That sounds like a security fail in my book. “Years of combating viral threats, malware, and so on (partially through their greater exposure and partially, it must be admitted, through bad programming) have resulted in a well-oiled machine which responds quickly and decisively to the threats which appear almost comically frequently. ”

What are you smoking and could I have some of it please.

I guess that “well-oiled” machine is why stuff like Conflicker still happens all the time.

Oh yeah. It’s the USER’S FAULT (because, according to MS, their security model is so good, only lazy, know-nothing users can eff it up). That sounds like a security fail in my book.

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