Now this is the hack of the weekend or the hoax of the weekend. Some intrepid hackers have run what appears to be iPhone OS 2.x on a “multi-touch” monitor with accelerometer support. I’ve found a few examples of monitors that could potentially pull this off but I haven’t been able to pin down a model number. However, because iPhone OS is basically a Linux Mach kernel it should be bootable on Intel hardware – at least in an emulator – all of this is feasible.
We’ll do a little digging but as it stands it’s an impressive hack.
UPDATE – It looks like it comes from Dreamfield.se, a Swedish design firm. They say it’s from their “labs” but they’re of an artistic bent.
“… because iPhone OS is basically a Linux Kernel it should be bootable on Intel hardware”.
What?!
Yet another massive fail by techcrunch whenever things actually get technical
MASSIVE.
My bad.
Ouch, that was painful to read (I literally screamed out loud) glad it’s already corrected .
When your entire post is a total of three sentences, and the focus is hacking an OS. Then yes, that is MASSIVE. It wasn’t a mistake, you believed it was Linux because you have no idea what BSD is or any other UNIX branch.
I am hoping the reply of “MASSIVE” failure is an admission of ignorance and not simply sarcasm, but I am sure its the latter.
http://chaosradio.ccc.de/24c3_m4v_2303.html
Just because it runs a Mach kernel doesn’t mean that you can run it on Intel. All of the iPhone OS’s components are compiled for ARM not Intel, because that’s what is in the actual iPhone.
Nothing new. I have been using an online version of the iPhone for months over at http://tinyurl.com/onlineiphone so this doesn’t impress me.
OMG will you PLEASE GO AWAY YOU MAKE ME WANT TO PUNCH THINGS
OMG! @ AppStoreIcons.. you make me feel just the same as u made Derek feel.. fuckin’Idiot! We can all asume ur a kid or have some serious mental issues.
iPhone OS runs on ARM, not Intel.
If I am not mistaken this guy points his apple remote directly at the screen… maybe 2 or 3 inches away. Havent used an apple remote lately but I think I remember that with these remotes you have pretty much point it directly at the sensor. If I am correct on this subject then this is the biggest load of crap I have ever seen!!!!!!
why would you even do that… stupid…
Why not, stupid?
I could see why I would want to do that. If I had a smaller monitor capable of the same multi-touch and accelerometer functions, I would love to have that set up next to my main desktop for reference.
AWESOME!!
I Wish Apple would make those…I’d buy one right now.
It’s a spoof.
FYI, merkey has Mach on intel.
If I remember correctly, there is already a VNC server for the iPhone (something like Veency, i think). If multitouch isnt already supported on that, it may not have been too hard to modify it to work and then connect via VNC and voila!
it’s just a movie and good timing. move a long, nothing to see here.
Follow the link from his profile page:
“In our staff we have photographers, digital compositors, animators and 3D artists. Besides having their special field of expertise, all of our employees have experience in related areas. This ensures good communication across the organization and that good ideas never get lost in translation between technical terms.”
it could very well be a movie. when he performs a zoom on the picture, the picture continues to zoom in even shortly after his fingers stopped pinching. hmm
Yea… just my iPhone keep doing :P
The iPhone OS isn’t based on Linux. It’s based on Darwin, the same operating system that MacOS X is based on. Indeed, the original iPhone ran the Leopard kernel, months in advance of the Leopard release.
Darwin itself is based on FreeBSD (which is in turn a GNU toolset based operating system), using a Mach microkernel in place of the Linux kernel.
My grandma has the giant Remote Control for her TV. Will this be the start of her Giant iPhone?
I am just saying. LOL
Definitely a hoax. Either it is timed, or he (or someone else) is triggering the action remotely.
This seems like a hoax:
1. It’s not Linux, it’s Darwin.
2. The iPhone is ARM, not x86.
3. You can’t boot ARM code on x86, the startup in the beginning of the video clearly shows a Mac booting, so we can rule out a full screen emulator.
4. There aren’t many ARM based desktops out there.
5. The video claims it’s a Mac Pro, which is obviously x86… further indicating it’s a hack.
Either this is an Apple developer cross compiling and a leaked video (possible but unlikely). Someone running the iPhone Simulator full screen (part hoax), Or it’s an outright hoax.
“further indicating it’s a hack”
should say “hoax”… sigh
The iphone sdk comes with an emulator that allows you to run the iphone os as a program to test apps with. Nothing magic here, just bitchin’ hacking to get the touchscreen and accelerometer recognized as iphone hardware.
The video clearly depicts the startup selecting the iPhone OS. No emulator, no hacking here.
You can’t run ARM without emulation. Bottom line.
Great post about it being a hoax but you forgot to add that the iphone video out cable which they have used to show the iphone on the big screen at wwdc, It could have been some one off screen just following what the person on screen is doing.
As close to the source you get.http://www.dreamfield.se/2009/06/iphoneipod-os-on-mac-pro/
…absolutely zero bearing on the hoax vs. hack question but fwiw – the entries in the address book app used in the video all look like Swedish names…
Seems like they’re Swedes, if anyone was wondering…
The monitor is a Dell — I’d guess a 2405WFP if I had to guess.
This is a hoax. A fun hoax, but a hoax non the less.
Defiantly a Dell monitor, I own both a 24″ and 20″. They are not manufactured as touch screens. My guess is a good hoax, one could do a video capture and playback. Get the timing down right to look like your doing this on an intel cpu and dell monitor.
This is the biggest point… there are no dell touch screen monitors for the size in the video… it’s a fake!
when he clicks on settings, he has the same subset of settings available to developers using the iphone simulator; if he was booting the actual iphone os he would see the entire range of settings?
Definitely a hoax, as someone noted earlier, the monitor is a Dell , I happen to have one just like that and I can tell you those monitors where manufactured long before the iphone where available (the newer monitors have a different monitor stand) and it’s not a touch screen nor does it have accelerometer support
Also, when you launch Safari on the iphone, the page refreshes, it didn’t do so in the video.
Still an interesting video none the less
It only refreshes if Safari has cleared its memory for that particular page in order to save RAM, while you were doing something else.
Next on CrunchGear….”Man drinks pint of beer right out of his iPhone!!!!”
I just hope the speaker is louder and battery last longer relative to its size. I would totally buy it! he he he
it’s an impressive hack why iphone operating system is too bad ?
Monitor looks like the Dell 2405FPW (I have one!) and it definitely doesn’t have touchscreen or accelerometer functionality… so this screams hoax to me.
I don’t buy it. It’s a video hack (ahem spoof).
Hoax or not, this would be an awesome emulator for development.
Excellent. Hail Hackers.
Umm…Isn’t kind of obvious that this is either 2.2 or 2.2.1, judging by the address bar in safari? I’m pretty sure it’s 2.2.x, not 2.x.
I think this is a fake.
Go to sleep you nerds.
its excellent…
Cooolllllllll and it’s super fast!
This is cool. For a lot of people that could be a very practical OS for the desktop. Not sure if it’s genuine but Apple should consider making this possible…I can see all kinds of awesomeness with this on the desktop or as an additional smaller screen display sitting next to my desktop.
I’m sceptical but it’s an impressive concept
Other than the display, this is pointless.
Question remains though: does such a multitouch display exist and what is it?
Combine this with the new MS Xbox OS they showed at E3 and we’ve got something that rocks..
Dreamfield is one of the best post-production companies in Europe, so guys, relax, this is just is a launch break hoax for them…
Look at those douches – they are friggin hipsters. No way they could pull off an elaborate hack like this. They are only good at pushing pixels and bitching about effeminate stuff all day.
Wow, can you believe that? Soo cool!
RT
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The way it loads Google tells me its a fake. Just a very well done replica of the iPhone OS. Probably it’s a Windows hack!
Why is the monitor so tall and slender ? looks fake but
Forgive me I he turned the monitor the right way around after :-) hahah
This isn’t that impressive. There has been an online version up and running for months over at http://tinyurl.com/onlineiphone
I am not tech savvy, but I wonder why no one has mentioned how the top left corner of the monitor says iPod. Does the iPhone have that too?
iphone os is for ipod touch AND iphone
The monitor is an older Dell Widescreen flipped to a vertical position. You can tell by the rounded silver base, it looks to me like a 2405FPW model, although you can’t see the silver buttons on the side of the monitor. Drawing conclusions from the clues given they are probably using a multi-touch screen overlay rather than a multi-touch monitor, something like PQ Labs iTable.
http://bit.ly/usYNt – Monitor
http://bit.ly/LrLr – Multi-Touch Overlay
Maybe he’s just *really* small.
there’s a distinct possibility
It’s actually the demo of the first anthropomorphic minifig
It’s not real. That monitor doesn’t have an infrared receiver. The remote is useless. Also: iPhone OS isn’t that graphically rich; it won’t scale up to that big.
Come on. How could the program know what position the monitor was in? How could it know it was rotated?
Nice fake though; it was all plausible until that point.
The same way every other OS knows when a monitor is flipped portrait.
is this a serious question?
Wow…the answer to a questions that has never been asked. Nice.
He’s playing a video full screen and gesturing in time with the activities on the screen.
I call shenanigans. There are 0 monitors in the market with an accelerometer built in. Also, I was under the impression the graphic library in the iPhone wasn’t vector based or at least that it wouldn’t scale THAT well. This reeks of BS.
FAKE FAKE FAKE
the only way would be a VNC server running on an iphone strapped on the back to the monitor and the touchscreen connected to a mac VNC client
it will work, but you’ll not have moultitouch I bet …
I call in fake
U know it looked all so convincing until he tilted the screne and it all moved. Does the monitor have a tilt switch i wonder?
Most monitors (touch or not) do have portrait/landscape sensors. Why those screens also have usb with usb hubs. They make convenient hubs, and also use software like in windows to tell the video card rotate 90 degrees CW or CCW. Not an accelerometer where it knows pitches of the device all the way around. Now what I wanna know of a multi-touch screen monitor. I do not see one for consumer sell. Just projects and research at like Apple, Microsoft, or Universities.
Try install to iPhone OS to The CrunchPad.
this is so neat haha, even if it is fake i don’t care… fun stuff!
(and if it’s not then wow… just wow.)
John, why don’t you cover technology you actually understand, like, how to clean your mouse trackball.