Comments on: Interview: Jared Brown, iPhone developer about having his app rejected

By: iPhone app Reviews

iPhone app Reviews — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:23:02 +0000

It’s too bad how Apple rejects apps based of a certain criteria like the one Jared talks about. The camera app sounds quite useful and unique. I kind of wish I had the chance to try it out for myself.

By: Jeffrey Powers

Jeffrey Powers — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:13:13 +0000

The insane inconsistency continues.

How the h*ll did Camera Zoom get approved recently? It’s a complete SLASH FEST of the UIImagePickerController.

Meanwhile, others who don’t even their precious layout get instant rejection, repeatedly, without clarification, without a single non-robotic response from Apple, Inc.

By: ounkeo

ounkeo — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:29:18 +0000

I noted the reason for wanting to develop for the iPhone platform; because of its current scope (meaning popularity -> userbase).

My question would be; why not create for another platform? Symbian for example. The market is much, much bigger than iPhone market and has been around for a decade.

Or would you consider the opportunities in Symbian (for example) to be slimmer due to it being a more mature application environment?

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Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:51:17 +0000

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By: MA

MA — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:20:41 +0000

I think the biggest issue is that developers cannot only use documented interfaces to do many of the things customers demand. This places us at an impossible place where we spend countless hours, only to realize that a critical api for our app is not completely documented with no workaround.

In other words: “There cannot be an app for that!”

By: happycamper1234

happycamper1234 — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:33:04 +0000

People who would be stark raving mad at Microsoft for similar tactics are defending it when it comes from the golden apple.

As a developer, I find myself wondering why Apple feels the need to punish developers for flaws in their platform. If the functionality should not be accessed, then the API should not make it accessible. If the functionality should be accessed, then it should be in the API and documented.

By: SeeSharper

SeeSharper — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:14:47 +0000

Its obvious that they’ve seen that additional apps are a goldmine and intend to pursue specific markets without any competition, either through licensing agreements with the big players like Adobe for Photo apps, or by offering them outright through the store as ‘official’ Apple, how’s iApps sound? From a development standpoint there’s no obvious reasons for them deny access to the camera modules. But I’m sure the Apple lovers out there will find a way to blame Microsoft for it. Lawlz

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Tech In Box » Someone At Apple Has A Sense Of Humor — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:07:02 +0000

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The Far Edge » Blog Archive » Someone At Apple Has A Sense Of Humor — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:19:20 +0000

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Someone At Apple Has A Sense Of Humor — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:26:48 +0000

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By: Dr. D

Dr. D — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:51:51 +0000

I found quick shot actually made the Iphone 3G camera usable. Prior to quick shot the photos were almost always blurry. This is really a iphone limitation.

I have migrated from a Windows environment to Mac. I moved from MS to APPle. This is like moving from one thief to another.

It does appear I will be migrating to Netbooks with Linux for under $300 each, and look forward to using Android based phones. I have no love for Google, but they are so smart. Tons of app’s by having a contest, and they have a Linux based OS, provide the API and OS to all phone OEM’s with no charges, or royalties.

Someone has to let Jobs know they took down the “Iron curtain”, and their “Wonderful iphone” is no longer the “only game in town”. Apple has made
mega $$$ on what is really a “front end” to X-Server called “COCO”. At the lowest level is Linux. Drop virtualization like parallels and you can run windows. (Don’t need a Mac for that).
Add nice features like screens and expose (as MS added to Vista that previously only existed in Mac OS X, drop these in a Linux X-windows GUI, and you sell tons of Netbooks with free linux and this API. I will happily toss my Mac’s in the trash.
I have NO intention of ever buying a MAC based machine again. Linux Netbooks and Android is the future.

Sad, my first computer was a Imsai 8080. My first with a GUI was a Apple II. It is time to turn the page on Apple.

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App.Store und die Kamera-Applikation : powerbook_blog — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:37:03 +0000

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By: Steven

Steven — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:03:34 +0000

I have also developed an app using the UIImagePicker module and used all the documented methods. Apple rejected my app because we used “undocument and private API” which we clearly did not. I’m not sure what apple’s problem is when it comes to doing things with the camera, and just cause you only use part of a published API does not mean you are using a private version. We are currently resubmitting our app and documenting our case, but from what I have been told it is like talking to a brick wall. If this doesn’t work I’m out tens of thousands of dollars on development. It is quite frustrating.

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Hottest Girls iPhone app features topless women (causing America to freak out) — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:38:09 +0000

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By: stikman

stikman — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:59:56 +0000

Well I stumbled on the right thread, damn informative.
I’m just a customer I don’t know the tech end of this
problem. But I have 9 paid camera apps 7 are broken
completly two sorta knida work alright. And I just discovered this evening that half of iRetouch is broken and half of it works. I hope this is resolved. For the benefit of all. But mainly for me. I would probably rather see Apple get more strict (jeez look at all the Crap Apps that get approved) but they shouldn’t stop in mid stream! But then I haven’t heard their side!
I’m still looking forward to useing Quick Shot again!

By: led panel

led panel — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:38:26 +0000

quick shot ….!!!

By: Vox

Vox — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:44:07 +0000

No, it’s not your fault as consumer (tho…legally it is :) But it is *not* apple’s fault in any way either…they put the rules out and the developers have to follow them…and the first rule of developing on somebody else’s platform with their APIs is…don’t use undocumented APIs, even if everybody else does.

BTW, I’m not a developer either, nor work for Apple or anybody afiliated with them…I’m a linux dude with years watching this kind of thing happen, and…the only way to fix it *for the consumer* is for the developers to fix their app so it’ll get approved…that’s that.

As for your Mercedes analogy…it’s wrong :) If your tire (which has its maker prominently displayed, just like an app in the app store) uses a non-standard pressure sensor and Mercedes changes the way their travel computer reads the pressure sensors so only pressure sensors that follow the right API work, then you go and tell Mercedes “hey, my tire pressure isn’t displayed anymore” they’ll tell you “ah, the-idiot-tire-maker used an undocumented API for their tire pressure sensor…go yell at them, they’ll change the sensor because they know they’ll get sued if they don’t”…and that’s exactly what happens.

In this case….go yell at the developer whose name is right there in the app store’s page for the app, and he’ll either fix it or…whatever you want :)

By: Vox

Vox — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:35:46 +0000

“Apple is willing to strand”??? Come on! It’s *your* app that’s the problem, not Apple’s doing.

Fix your app and it’ll get approved…and if it doesn’t get approved and it complies with all the known guidelines and the developer contract, *then* bitch about it and I’m sure that (as it almost always happens) the internet will bitch about it with you.

The “leaving stranded” thing is not on Apple’s court, it’s on yours…you are the one who can fix the appe.

By: Matt Burns Weed

Matt Burns Weed — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:46:57 +0000

Sure, except for the fact that there are many more negatives, not just the one.

By: ckilkelly01

ckilkelly01 — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:09:04 +0000

Craig, I see your point – well made.

But how about this analogy: I drive a Mercedes. I buy a part through Mercedes but it is not made by Mercedes but made for them – let’s say the stereo. It works. Then, when I go to get an oil change, Mercedes tells me they no longer work with that company and they “turn off” that part. So, I no longer have a stereo that works. Now I have to buy a new stereo they DO support (and are they going to support that for a long period of time?) or live without music. Who am I going to be ticked at – the part maker (who may or may not have done something wrong – I have no idea) or Mercedes, for selling me the part and then no longer “supporting” it? For me, the answer is Mercedes. All I did was go get my oil changed and now I have no stereo – driving without music – that is brutal.

I see this Apple situation as the same. Again, I LOVE MY iphone – but both my camera apps and my dialer apps do not work with the update – I was not even given the option to update knowing what apps would and would not work. So now I have my iphone without the dialer I loved nor any of my Camera apps – I am too shaky for the Apple camera app.

Again, I see your point – developers have some of the burden; but how am I to know that until it is too late…I never knew this was an issue. I even wrote Apple about it and the told me no decisions have been made as of yet regarding Camera apps.

I don’t believe them, though.

But I still think this is Apples’s fault – though I LOVE my iphone!