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	<title>Comments on: Giganews gives 50 percent off for newly Usenet-less AT&amp;T customers</title>
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		<title>By: I love Usenet and I'm angry</title>
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		<dc:creator>I love Usenet and I'm angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am angry with AT&amp;T stopping my usenet access and will close my account as soon as I can. Also, living in New York I won&#039;t forget Mario&#039;s Cuomo&#039;s son that was responsible for squelching this free speech resource. Typical Liberal hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am angry with AT&amp;T stopping my usenet access and will close my account as soon as I can. Also, living in New York I won&#8217;t forget Mario&#8217;s Cuomo&#8217;s son that was responsible for squelching this free speech resource. Typical Liberal hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim is Wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim is Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, Usenet.COM, a single company, was found guilty.
-They ignored takedown requests (which other Usenet providers accept)
-They tried to use takedowns as a defense, the fact that they ignored them defeated that defense
-They also tried to use the Betamax case as a precedent- Betamax equipment is physical, Usenet is a service- not applicable.
-They destroyed evidence
-They sent employees to Europe so they couldn&#039;t testify

AT&amp;T dumped Usenet because very few people use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, Usenet.COM, a single company, was found guilty.<br />
-They ignored takedown requests (which other Usenet providers accept)<br />
-They tried to use takedowns as a defense, the fact that they ignored them defeated that defense<br />
-They also tried to use the Betamax case as a precedent- Betamax equipment is physical, Usenet is a service- not applicable.<br />
-They destroyed evidence<br />
-They sent employees to Europe so they couldn&#8217;t testify</p>
<p>AT&amp;T dumped Usenet because very few people use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Goodrich</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/07/09/giganews-gives-50-percent-off-for-newly-usenet-less-att-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-1055334</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Goodrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems more likely that AT&amp;T made that move because Usenet was found liable for at least 4 different types of Copyright infringement in Federal Court on June 30, 2009.  The timing seems far more likely and much more of a CYA move by AT&amp;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems more likely that AT&amp;T made that move because Usenet was found liable for at least 4 different types of Copyright infringement in Federal Court on June 30, 2009.  The timing seems far more likely and much more of a CYA move by AT&amp;T.</p>
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		<title>By: gsorel</title>
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		<dc:creator>gsorel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATT customers: several example newsgroup providers where you can sign up:
&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.usenet-providers.net/AT&amp;T-newsgroup-specials.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AT&amp;T-newsgroup-specials.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATT customers: several example newsgroup providers where you can sign up:<br />
<a HREF="http://www.usenet-providers.net/AT&amp;T-newsgroup-specials.html" rel="nofollow">AT&amp;T-newsgroup-specials.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: dijitul</title>
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		<dc:creator>dijitul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Special until July 18, 2009 -- Astraweb has Annual Subscription UNLIMITED for $96 (that&#039;s $8/month).  Check it out!  

http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/96-yearly.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Special until July 18, 2009 &#8212; Astraweb has Annual Subscription UNLIMITED for $96 (that&#8217;s $8/month).  Check it out!  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/96-yearly.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/96-yearly.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newshosting announced an ATT special back in June--$13/mo for the NHXL plan for 1 yr.  It&#039;s been a solid service.  I&#039;ve got 30 connections, SSL, great speeds, unlimited transfers.  Why somebody would choose to pay $15/mo for the first 2 months and $30/mo thereafter for Giganews&#039; comparable plan is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newshosting announced an ATT special back in June&#8211;$13/mo for the NHXL plan for 1 yr.  It&#8217;s been a solid service.  I&#8217;ve got 30 connections, SSL, great speeds, unlimited transfers.  Why somebody would choose to pay $15/mo for the first 2 months and $30/mo thereafter for Giganews&#8217; comparable plan is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed,   Thanks for your feedback.  In about 2-3 weeks you will see where Giganews is actually heading- I say heading because what is being announced will not be all, not by a long shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed,   Thanks for your feedback.  In about 2-3 weeks you will see where Giganews is actually heading- I say heading because what is being announced will not be all, not by a long shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giganews is desperate to keep customers from jumping ship to Astraweb, which offers virtually identical completion, retention, and speeds, but its version of giganews&#039; $30/mo plan is only $11/mo or $96 a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giganews is desperate to keep customers from jumping ship to Astraweb, which offers virtually identical completion, retention, and speeds, but its version of giganews&#8217; $30/mo plan is only $11/mo or $96 a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nicholas- but really, Ric Flair?  Yowsa :)-

If anyone out there has any questions on the special let me know.  Also, look forward to some big news from Giganews in the coming weeks and more to follow in early Fall.   Consider it a game changer.

liz@giganews.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nicholas- but really, Ric Flair?  Yowsa :)-</p>
<p>If anyone out there has any questions on the special let me know.  Also, look forward to some big news from Giganews in the coming weeks and more to follow in early Fall.   Consider it a game changer.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:liz@giganews.com">liz@giganews.com</a></p>
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