Update: New 1.01.11 firmware now available, plus Wi-Fi test results are in.
Short Version: Western Digital’s newest addition to its growing lineup of media players, the WD TV Live, essentially picks up where its older sibling (the great WD TV) left off. With the newly added networking capabilities via a built-in Ethernet port or USB Wi-Fi adapter (sold separately), the WD TV Live has taken Western Digital’s little black box to the next level. Be it photos, music, video (encoded with just about any codec under the sun), or the newly added access to YouTube, Flickr, Pandora, and Live365, the WD TV Live can handle just about any kind of media thrown its way. Overall, it is a highly capable, easy to use, and relatively affordable all-around high definition media player.
Long Version: The original WD TV HD Media Player was a great first attempt by Western Digital. Unfortunately, the lack of network and Internet access made the device less desirable to a large group of potential customers. Fortunately, WD seems to have listened to the growing community of WD TV fans while putting the new WD TV Live together and has added network and Internet connectivity features.
Hardware:
Although the WD TV Live is technically a new device, in reality it’s just a moderate overhaul of its aging sibling, the original WD TV. As such, I will try to focus more on the new changes than on the features that have remained the same.
Besides the newly added network and Internet connectivity, the most noticeable difference between the old and new WD TV Live is the actual color of the device. Where the original was clad in dust-loving, fingerprint attracting shiny black plastic, the new Live comes sporting an arguably more sleek, matte charcoal gray finish.
The device measures 1.57″ x 3.94″ x 4.94″ and weighs in at 0.67 lbs. It includes two USB ports (one on the side, one on the back), one HDMI 1.3 port, optical audio out, Ethernet, composite out, and component output. The included mini remote (below) is identical to the original version and the AC adapter is relatively small and self-contained (i.e. no power “brick”). Besides the remote and power adapter, the device also ships with composite and component cables (HDMI, optical audio, and USB storage devices sold separately). The WD TV Live is also compatible with various “universal” remotes such as Logitech’s Harmony series.
Installation:
Installing the WD TV Live couldn’t be much easier (assuming you’re using an HDMI cable). Once you’ve attached the little sticky rubber feet to the bottom of the unit, simply plug-in the AC power adapter, attach the HDMI cable to the device and your HDTV, and insert any variety of USB storage (i.e. external hard drive or flash drive) into the side and/or the back USB port(s). That’s it. Now fire up your beautiful TV, hit power on the included WD TV Live remote, and voila…you’ve got an HD media player at your service.
Interface / Functionality:
Just like the old WD TV interface, the slightly updated UI is reminiscent of many media player apps (think Windows Media Center, XBMC, etc). Essentially, you are presented with a visual navigation system to choose between video, photos, music, and system settings. Instead of trying to explain all the various screens and options, here’s a not-so-brief (kinda unnecessarily long) video overview of some of the features:
One thing I forgot to include in the video is the new “preview” mode, which joins the previously included List, Thumbnail, and Search modes. The preview feature allows you to see a file’s info (such as size, type, etc) while also showing/playing a clip of the video, photo, or audio track. This is nice, for example, if your media files are poorly labeled or if you can’t quite remember which was the last episode of Arrested Development you had watched.
Another “oops! I forgot” feature is the newly added ability to copy, move or delete files between connected USB storage drives and/or networked storage/computers. This is really handy if, like me, your DVD ripping machine (i.e. your PC) resides in room X but your WD TV Live is set up in room Y; now you can simply move your latest media files from your machine to your attached USB storage right over the network (with some patience, especially over Wi-Fi).
As for compatibility, the WD TV Live supports the following (enormous list of) file types:
- Video – AVI (Xvid, AVC, MPEG1/2/4), MPG/MPEG, VOB, MKV (h.264, x.264, AVC, MPEG1/2/4, VC-1), TS/TP/M2T (MPEG1/2/4, AVC, VC-1), MP4/MOV (MPEG4, h.264), M2TS, WMV9
- Photo – JPEG, GIF, TIF/TIFF, BMP, PNG
- Audio – MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AAC, FLAC, MKA, AIF/AIFF, OGG, Dolby Digital, DTS
- Playlist – PLS, M3U, WPL
- Subtitle – SRT, ASS, SSA, SUB, SMI
Conclusion:
The WD TV Live is a definite improvement over its older sibling (the non-Live). If you are looking for an HD media solution that will play pretty much every type of media known to man (see the list above), has a very small physical footprint, network/Internet connectivity, and has limitless storage (i.e. its only limited by the amount of storage you own), then you really can’t do much better than the WD TV Live HD media player.
For those of you who love lists, here is a quick recap of all the highlights and improvements found in the new media player:
- Faster – boot-up, thumbnail loading, and overall operation
- Network access – access content over your home network via Ethernet or USB Wi-Fi adapter
- Internet – access content from YouTube, Flickr, Pandora, and Live365
- Firmware updates – update the media player’s firmware directly over the Internet
- File management – transfer files between USB storage devices, pull files off the network, and delete unwanted files
- Preview mode – in addition to List and Thumbnail views, Preview mode shows the file’s information and plays the media
- Component video – new connection choice in addition to HDMI and Composite
- Color – new matte charcoal casing
As good as the new WD TV Live is, there is still room for improvement. I’d love to see future firmware updates bring Netflix ‘Watch Now’ functionality, access to sites like Hulu, the ability to navigate by ‘chapter’ like on a DVD (with VOB, MKV, etc), and even some sort of Internet browser a la Opera on the Wii. In terms of future hardware improvements, it would be nice if the device had Wi-Fi and Bluetooth built-in, thereby providing an even better network/Internet experience and the ability to use a keyboard with the hypothetical Internet browser. And a physical on/off button built into the WD TV would be handy if you (temporarily) lose your remote (read: there are NO actual buttons/controls on the device itself).
Nonetheless, for $149.99 MSRP (or cheaper somewhere on the ‘Net) the WD TV Live HD Media Player is a highly capable and worthwhile addition to most anyone’s media center. One caveat: if you’ve already got a PS3 and/or XBOX 360 (I have neither), then you are probably one of the few who wouldn’t benefit much from the WD TV Live. In any case, with increases in speed, utility, and functionality, the WD TV Live is definitely a welcome addition to WD’s line of HD media players and a worthy successor to the original WD TV. For more, check out the new WDTVLive.com.
What do you mean “aging sibling” – its not that old? And its still not functioning optimally, they promised a lot of firmware updates, but they have been few and with way to much time between.
And there are still problems (like freezes in the menu etc).
They better not just drop support for the WDTV already, or I’m never going to take a chance on anything from them again.
WD has actually pushed out quite a few firmware updates for the original WD TV. However, a number of the releases have remained “beta” only.
For the latest (original) WD TV firmware, keep an eye on the following webpages:
WD TV Pre-Release Firmware and WD TV Update
They released some betas saying that this or that bug was fixed and they weren’t (MKV audio out of sync ; 1080p 24Hz ; Greek subs ; etc)! So… if we count the firmwares that really fixed something, then we had 1 or 2! The WD support is really bad! Most of the improvements are just cosmetic changes or just plain fluf! We needed to wait 5 months for SRT fix! 5 Months! Other companies added more and more features in their players… WD added thumbnails… and I think that explain everything!
Does it play HD content from YouTube? Can you chose the quality of the video you are watching (HD or SD)?
Does it playback video from Canon cameras that shoot HD video? I have a new Canon SD 780, which captures HD video with mono sound. Video files play back on a PC, but on my WD TV there is no audio. I realize that Canon is doing something non-standard, but there must be thousands of these cameras out there, with more to come. There are work arounds, but it would be nice if WD released firmware upgrades with support for new cameras soon after they hit the market.
Hi
Does anyone know how to setup a sound configuration if I don’t have an optical device to play the sound?
I only have a HDMI PC Monitor and WD LIVE HD TV
Thank you so much.
Dude it should output sound over HDMI, however if the video you are watching has a digital soundtrack (hit options during playback and then see if your audio track has ‘digital’ in brackets after the language…), then you will need to transmit audio via optical to a suitable amp OR convert the audio into a non digital format. Popcorn Hour released a program to do just that, Google it and you should find it without too much bother.
does it play dvd .iso files ?
yes – it should play isos. i just watched one this afternoon and it was flawless.
It plays iso but only half as well as the other products in the same range. EG it has not only no iso or dvd menu support but doesn’t even have iso chapters support.
The AV output has regular audio, not just optical. Not sure about iso, but it does OK with .vob files ready for burning etc., doesn’t do the menus but ‘knows’ about the order they fit together etc. Wish it could connect to arbitrary internet radio streams, not just pandora and 365. .. maybe if I put the playlist where it can find, for the net stream? I’ll have to try that. Really wish it had a thumb-keyboard on the remote… Wish it could be a server, that is, that I could control it from browsers elsewhere. All in all though I love the thing so far.
Does anyone know if the component output supports 720p HD? My TV only supports 720p and my receiver only has component switching. The WD website is somewhat unclear as it says “HDMI output for full HD” but nothing about whether or not the component output supports HD or just SD. In addition will the WDTV downgrade 1080p files to 720p through the component output?
Hi and thanks for this nice review.
Is it possible to access files in the attached usb hard drives from your computer via ethernet?
Yes you can access an attached USB drive from the desktop PC – it will map the drive back to the PC.
i’ve got an xbox360, but can’t see why I wouldn’t benefit much.
The xbox is far too restricted on playable file types and cant access internet material without being linked to a pc. Am I missing something? Perhaps updates to xbox360?
Ditto for the ps3 as well – I love my machine for games and blu-ray, but it’s hopeless unless using specific formats. Although the reviewer did say he doesn’t own either… must have bought into all the marketing hype;) The wd live is fantastic
About Ethernet connection, do you know if it works connected to an Airport Express for Mac? This would instantly bring a wireless connectivity w/o the need to purchase a separate USB Wi-Fi adapter….
Would be awesome if you have the answer… thanks for the great review !
OK if i buy a HP Mediasmart Server to store all my media files on (4 hard drives, 1 for Movies, 1 for Music/Music Videos, 1 for Shows, 1 for Pictures), can I access them through the Ethernet Port? If so, what’s the speed of the Port? Could it handle transferring video. Also, what’s the reliability of this? I want a good media player because my whole library will be electronic from now on.
Excellent review !! WD is always one step ahead on Storage technology like WD Cavier Green Hard Drive and further 2TB drives.
The Cavier HD’s manufactured post 15 Nov 09 are NOT designed for NAS e.g. RAID implementation!!!!! The firmware has been changed and no longer support TLER which is vital in a RAID config!
Hi there.
Can you tell me wether it is a 100 MB or 1000 MB ethernet?
thanks
Could you attach a usb hub thus increasing the amount of usb ports? no bluetooth dongle support yet?
Like Gabinko I’m looking to know if I should upgrade my router and NICs to 1000mbps because I have a busy network. I’m assuming 1080i will soak up most of my current 100mbps system.
Yes, it has 10/100 LAN connection, you can also use a WiFi USB attachment to enable WiFi connectivity (check for which models are supported). You can stream media off a USB storage device attached directly to the unit, or you can stream from a NAS / PC using either WiFi (Wireless N is recommended for 1080P) or through the 10/100 LAN connection. In regards to playing HD content from YouTube, I believe there is a setting which will allow you to use either the HD quality video’s or Standard video, but it is capable of both. Not too sure about adding USB Hub to the device though. @RB the Xbox 360 has limited video playback (supported file types), although it does allow you access to Internet media i.e. Downloadable Demo’s, FaceBook, Twitter, Movies on Demand, etc. PS3 also has access to this kind of online content through a recent firmware update. I have all 3 consoles (Wii as well), and the only let down is the supported media types, this is where the WD Live would win over the rest. Nice review!
Wrong. It won’t play HD from Youtube.
The only complain I have is lack of Gigabit LAN… That would be very sweet. 100 Mbt is the fastest way to copy content to the attached hard drive over the network, but it’s still slow with big files. With wireless you have to be patient, sometimes it takes me 10min to copy 3Gb movie. overall great buy.
Great bit o’ kit! Have been waiting for this since I ditched my XBMC orig Xbox and bought a WDTV a year ago! So good that they’ve added the network capability! Will look to get one when I’ve got another HDTV in the house…
You should be able to access online audio besides live365/Pandora by means of playlist files. I haven’t tried this yet but if I get time I will tonight. In the specs it says PLS, M3U, and WPL are supported. So in theory you should be able to create a m3u file with a URL in it (like http://www.di.fm/mp3/trance.pls or your own shoutcast server, etc). In the same vein I would think a link to a video stream ought to work too.
I’ll be surprised (and a bit pissed) if this doesn’t work. I’ll post my results here.
Update:
The PLS/M3U trick does NOT work. The only way I have found to do it is using a Media Server like TVersity.
Was wondering if you can search for pics in other accounts like picasa or is it just the flickr account that the WD is tied up to.
Also it would have been great if they could include a web-browser in the device .. basic searching and browsing would have been great :)
I read somewhere that the W7 “Play to” feature does not function correctly, giving video but with no sound. Has anyone had any experience of this?
Cheers, Ray.
Is there a limit on what internet sites you can stream from? I was hoping to stream live football from the likes of MyP2P.
Also can you browse all folders on a networked laptop?
Thanks
Dave
Can you play windows media centre recordings on the wd tv live via the network ?
Thanks
You mention the devicehas network capabilities – but not which protocols it supports for accessing media content…
Is this just another u-pnp bother, or does it support SMB/CIFS?
It has SMB support via 3rd party firmware for sure. I don’t remember if 1.0.11 has SMB.
There is also another issue, that I’m finding I have, is that its missing the ability to play .img files. So… Any rips you’ve done into .img, you’ll need to convert to .iso if you want to view it on here. Finally, a few of my BR rips never seem to work quite right. I can’t get the sound to work.
Conclusion: Yea, cheap $150 1080p w/network connectivity. But its really flaky. Sometimes it see’s the network shares. Sometimes it doesn’t. And when it does, can a guy get a search feature!?!?
IMHO the WiFi capabilities are sub par.
Most of the usb wireless adapters in the list are unavailable or have been upgraded to a newer version THAT WON’T WORK. I find this unacceptable for a major comany like WD.
I haven’t been able to find a single useable usb stick yet.
The other functionalities are fine.
dwa-140 works fine, also to 1080p and it’s cheap!
It has been bypassed in the market by better players
I have a wd tv live hd media player also a better desktop so how i can attatched the wireless through pc to wd unit.
how many divice used in pc or wd name & brand
plz send me detail how can access through pc to wd
i have lost the power adapter, does anyone know where i can get one. ta
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You’re kidding, right?? I mean. You found this review of the WD HD TV Live. SO… You cannot be serious. Right?????
HI. Can anyone help me with setting up for internet over ethernet cable. Whe i choose automatic set up it says it is wrong and when i put the info manualy it doesent work either. Is there any chatch or am i stupid. thanx
A little warning about this box – it won’t play AAC audio properly. You get constant random audio glitches/dropouts. WD haven’t acknowledged this problem on their forums, but I reckon it’s pretty serious problem as they claim to play AAC in the specifications.
So, if you want AAC audio, check on the WD website whether they’ve fixed this in their firmware yet.
I have a few questions about the WD live
1. Does it work with UPnP servers?
2. Does it do random play from a UPnP server (i.e. can I select a directory and hit play but have it shuffle). What about playlists also?
3. Any access to online channels such as revision3 network?
4. Does it work well with Playon?
My main concern is that this plays nicely with my UPnP server built into my router. I would like to access my media content on the USB drive connected to my router. Currently I have an Egreat M34a (like popcorn hour) but have a lot of trouble with any of the things I’ve mentioned.
@Glenn.
UPnP: yes
Random Play: No
Playlists: NO
Online channels: No
Playon: yes
Keep in mind all the yeses are also yeses with the competing players. The big problem with WD is they seem to be the only players that don’t do DVD menus, or title selection or chapters. A pretty big bug and sore point with users.
Network robustness is also not as strong as other players out there since WD TV Live first came out.
Hi – does anybody know if it is possible to connect a keyaboard. Using the remote control to search for letters on the screen is very boring.
With all my movie downloads the WD TV Live plays video and audio flawlessly. However with my ripped dvd’s I cannot get the audio to play at all.
Is there a specific software I should be using?
its your audio codec. western digital wasn’t able to secure ALL the codec’s available. recommend: use handbrake and re-encode the audio with a different codec. =] hth’s
hi this can add metadata of the videos from the web automatically like the apple tv ?
The WD Live Media Player itself is fantastic for the most part. I can hook up a couple of USB flash drives and copy files through the network, and it plays every media file I’ve thrown at it so far.
Where it has a HUGE issue is the network capability, at least with WIndows 7 Ultimate. I swear to god, you need a masters in computer science to get the box to work with a Windows 7 network. I’ve tried numerous websites for both streaming to the box and playing files on the network from the box, and *everything* I have tried has ended in abject failure. I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64, and the box petulantly refuses to play ANY file over the network.
When playing DVDs ripped into VIDEO_TS folders, will WD TV Live show the subtitles? Can you turn on and off the subtitles in a DVD?
Nice review. I’m gonna get one – for that price it’s damn good value.
does this player play avi or vob files?